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    How I Ended Up in Guantanamo

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    When Ugandan-born Anthony Kiyemba converted to Islam at the age of 20 and changed his name to Jamal Abdullah, he could not have imagined that he would one day end up in America’s most notorious prison: Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.

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    The now 27-year old, who was arrested in Pakistan in 2002 on suspicion of being an Al-Qaeda terrorist and sent back to Uganda two months ago, still finds it difficult to talk about the four years he spent in various American detention centres: first in Pakistan, then in Afghanistan and finally in Cuba. “When you are a Muslim, you must be ready to be persecuted,” he told Sunday Vision.

    Early childhood

    Kiyemba’s childhood could have been the story of any Ugandan. He is a Muganda, born on February 22, 1979 to the late Simon Peter Musisi and Teresa Namuddu of Masaka. He comes from a strong Roman Catholic family.

    He went to St. Savio Primary School in Kisubi and later joined the prestigious St. Mary’s College Kisubi.

    However, his life changed dramatically when his parents divorced. His mother migrated to the UK and his father died in a car accident in 1989. His maternal aunt found it increasingly difficult to look after him.

    Finally, in 1998, Kiyemba joined his mother, brothers and sisters in London, where he continued his education at Pope Paul II Secondary School in Wimbledon. Later, he joined De Montfort University in Leicester to study Pharmaceutical and Cosmetic Sciences.

    “I was a heavy spender,” he recalls his university time. “I loved partying, going out with girls and drinking. To maintain my lifestyle, I worked part-time in a restaurant. Dividing my time between working and studying became increasingly difficult. I decided to take a year off from college to work and earn some money,” he recalls.

    Becoming a muslim

    It was during that time that Kiyemba was introduced to the teachings of Islam. “I met a friend who made me listen to a cassette with an Islamic message. It was recorded by a new convert, an Afro-American, called Khalid Yassin.

    For the first time, I looked at life differently. I realised that Christians were worshipping a messenger, whereas Muslims worship the real God.”

    After listening to the tape, the young Ugandan followed his friend to the mosque. Somebody asked him why he did not want to convert to Islam immediately. Kiyemba hesitated. He did not want to quit his freewheeling lifestyle, he said. He would convert to Islam in later years. “How sure are you that you will live tomorrow? You can die even today, before you reach home,” the man said.

    That convinced Kiyemba. “It was April 1999,” he recalls. “I took the vows of Islam and suddenly felt like a newborn baby,” he says.

    Kiyemba’s mother did not agree with his new religion. Nor did his relatives back in Uganda, whom he visited in January 2000.

    Afghanistan, the promised land

    On returning to London, Kiyemba returned to university. “But I could not concentrate,” he says. “I was completely taken up by my new religion. I was no longer comfortable with my life at university. I disapproved of girls wearing short skirts and men drinking alcohol.”

    It was then that Kiyemba learned about Afghanistan and the Taliban. “I read about the Taliban in Dharbi Almu’min magazine,” he continues. “It talked about the plight of Muslims worldwide and about Afghanistan, where the government was implementing Islamic laws.

    “It said that Muslims from all over the world were moving to Afghanistan, where it was much easier to stay faithful to your religion. People were dressed in accordance with the Islamic culture and adultery was punishable by stoning to death.

    “Islam teaches you that a Muslim should move away from a lesser Islamic environment to a better Islamic environment. That a person living in such bad surroundings would be punished, except when he had no means to escape,” he says.

    Kiyemba was decided. He wanted to go and live in a country which offered few temptations. He dropped out of college and took on a job in order to save money and pay for his trip to Afghanistan.

    But then, on September 11, 2001, the twin towers of the World Trade Center in the US were attacked, causing the Americans to invade Afghanistan.

    “I don’t support what happened on 9/11,” Kiyemba comments on the attacks. “But the way the US and Britain reacted was not good. They invaded and bombed Afghanistan, killing even more people. The attacks had an underlying cause, which needed to be addressed. What could have driven a pilot, who earns up to $50,000 a month, to carry out such attacks? I believe that such acts are caused by frustration, as a result of the oppression of Muslims in various countries.

    “If you have a child in your house and you mistreat him badly, whom do you blame when the child reacts?” he asks.

    Kiyemba cannot approve or disapprove of suicide attacks. “It is not a matter of approving or disapproving. It is a matter of understanding,” he says.

    “Any effort by Muslims to take away injustices is in the interest of Islam. The word Islam means to surrender to God. That is why, when God asked Abraham to surrender his only son, he obeyed. This is Islam. You do whatever God wants you to do. If Abraham did that today, he would be called a terrorist or a fanatic,” Kiyemba asserts.

    The long trek to Afghanistan

    Reports on bombings in Afghanistan disturbed Kiyemba so much, that he decided to go and assist his brothers in their suffering. “I said to myself, I will not stay in a country like UK that is killing my brothers. My plan was still to go to Afghanistan, but because of the war, I decided to go to Pakistan.”

    He first flew to Tehran, where he met other foreigners from Sudan and Mauritania who were also on their way to Afghanistan. “Together we hired a car to drive us across the border to Pakistan,” he recounts.

    “We decided to settle there and wait for the war to end. Then, Pakistanis started rounding up foreigners, especially Arabs, and selling them to the Americans, who paid $5,000 for any suspect handed over to them. We became worried about our security and decided to leave for Afghanistan.
    By now, I was ready to assist my brothers there in any possible way, financially or by holding a gun to defend them.”

    Nabbed in Pakistan

    However, Kiyemba and his friends never reached their final destination. In March 2002, they were arrested by Pakistani security at a checkpoint, just before crossing the border, and handed over to the Americans.

    Kiyemba spent six months in American prisons, first in Pakistan and later at the American Bagram Airbase in northern Afghanistan.

    Inside Guantanamo Bay

    In October 2002, he was finally flown to Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, where he would stay for another three and half years.

    Asked about his life in prison, Kiyemba keeps quiet.

    He however, denies reports in the Red Pepper about acts of sodomy and other torture committed against him.

    “It was very painful,” he only comments. “I spent long periods in isolation. You were not treated as a human being. I was only 23 years old when I arrived but some of my fellow prisoners were even younger. There were boys of 14 and 15 years old,” he recalls.

    Kiyemba says he experienced the worst forms of physical torture at the prison in northern Afghanistan.

    “In Guantanamo Bay, it was more of psychological torture,” he says.

    Back in Uganda

    Since he came to Uganda, life is a lot better. “I am treated very well here. I eat and sleep well, unlike in Guantanamo Bay. But I am still not free. I am still being detained. This confuses me. If I am a prisoner, I should have certain rights, such as being able to receive visitors,” he says.

    Lessons learnt

    His experience has not deterred Kiyemba or weakened his religious conviction to the contrary.

    “As a Muslim, you must be prepared to suffer and die for your religion. Being in Guantanamo Bay taught me one thing: to be patient and to put my trust in God,” he asserts.

    When the Americans decided that Kiyemba was no longer a threat they wanted to return him to the United Kingdom where he was officially a resident. But the UK revoked his residence and said he should go back to Uganda where he came from.

    Future plans

    Now detained by Ugandan security officials, the former Guantanamo bay inmate hopes to begin a normal life upon release.

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    Re: How I Ended Up in Guantanamo

    LOL BRO!! I thoT U HAD BEEN TAKEN TO GUANTAMANO FOR A SEC, WAS LIKE WHOOOAH BRO FIGHT&DIE IS HAAARD!!!! LOL

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    Re: How I Ended Up in Guantanamo

    format_quote Originally Posted by Abd'Majid View Post
    LOL BRO!! I thoT U HAD BEEN TAKEN TO GUANTAMANO FOR A SEC, WAS LIKE WHOOOAH BRO FIGHT&DIE IS HAAARD!!!! LOL

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    Re: How I Ended Up in Guantanamo

    format_quote Originally Posted by Fight&Die4Allah View Post
    Reports on bombings in Afghanistan disturbed Kiyemba so much, that he decided to go and assist his brothers in their suffering. “I said to myself, I will not stay in a country like UK that is killing my brothers. My plan was still to go to Afghanistan, but because of the war, I decided to go to Pakistan.”

    >deletions<

    By now, I was ready to assist my brothers there in any possible way, financially or by holding a gun to defend them.”
    So Kiyemba renounced his ties to Britain and went to Afghanistan in order to fight the British and Americans? Sounds like Treason to me. I thought this was going to be a hard luck story. Does anyone think he should not have been executed?
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    Re: How I Ended Up in Guantanamo

    format_quote Originally Posted by HeiGou View Post
    So Kiyemba renounced his ties to Britain and went to Afghanistan in order to fight the British and Americans? Sounds like Treason to me. I thought this was going to be a hard luck story. Does anyone think he should not have been executed?
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    Nope, btw does you think he should have?
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    Re: How I Ended Up in Guantanamo

    format_quote Originally Posted by islam-truth View Post
    Nope, btw does you think he should have?
    He fought the country that took him in with gun in hand. Or tried to. Yes I think he ought to have been executed. An open and shut case of treason.

    At least they stripped him of his residency.
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    Re: How I Ended Up in Guantanamo

    format_quote Originally Posted by HeiGou View Post
    He fought the country that took him in with gun in hand. Or tried to. Yes I think he ought to have been executed. An open and shut case of treason.

    At least they stripped him of his residency.
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    So now may be you couild understand how muslims feel about apostates.
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    Re: How I Ended Up in Guantanamo

    format_quote Originally Posted by islam-truth View Post
    So now may be you couild understand how muslims feel about apostates.
    I have never had any problem with understanding how some Muslims can feel about apostates (incidentally this man was one but I don't think he ought to have been executed for that). But there is a world of difference between abandoning your country in time of war to fight for the enemy, and to come to believe another religion is true and peacefully and quietly adopting that new religion. I think that some Muslims are misusing the analogy with treason to provide a spurious justification for their desire to repress.

    Can you explain to me how that Afghan, for instance, commited treason?
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    Re: How I Ended Up in Guantanamo

    Salaam

    Rejecting his lord and his messenger.
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    He was just "Malitia"....... And thus an illegal combatant and all servicemen accept that if you come accross "Malitia" who are above the rules of combat (Geneva Convention) then the rule of thumb is thus:

    "Expect no quarter and give no quarter"
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    Re: How I Ended Up in Guantanamo

    format_quote Originally Posted by islam-truth View Post
    Rejecting his lord and his messenger.
    So you are arguing that religious identity is primal and over and above national identity? If you take that line people will take you at your word and deport you. If you do not want to be British (or American or whatever) eventually the British will believe you. If your religion insists that if you're Muslim you cannot be a loyal British person, by all means, take that view, but it means in the end you will be put on a boat to somewhere else. Is that a good solution?
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    Re: How I Ended Up in Guantanamo

    format_quote Originally Posted by HeiGou View Post
    So you are arguing that religious identity is primal and over and above national identity? If you take that line people will take you at your word and deport you. If you do not want to be British (or American or whatever) eventually the British will believe you. If your religion insists that if you're Muslim you cannot be a loyal British person, by all means, take that view, but it means in the end you will be put on a boat to somewhere else. Is that a good solution?
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    Yes a being muslim is my main identity.
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    Re: How I Ended Up in Guantanamo

    format_quote Originally Posted by islam-truth View Post
    Yes a being muslim is my main identity.
    And you are willing to impose that on other Muslims regardless of what they believe?

    Then it is time for you to leave Britain and go to a Muslim country. You cannot serve two masters. You should not eat the bread and salt of people whose hospitality you intend to abuse.
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    Re: How I Ended Up in Guantanamo

    format_quote Originally Posted by HeiGou View Post
    And you are willing to impose that on other Muslims regardless of what they believe?

    Then it is time for you to leave Britain and go to a Muslim country. You cannot serve two masters. You should not eat the bread and salt of people whose hospitality you intend to abuse.
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    What you don't realise this land I live in doesn't belong to some man we as humans only live here, this land belongs to allah as he's the lord of the universe and btw I doubt many true muslims will argue that.
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    Re: How I Ended Up in Guantanamo

    format_quote Originally Posted by islam-truth View Post
    Salaam

    What you don't realise this land I live in doesn't belong to some man we as humans only live here, this land belongs to allah as he's the lord of the universe and btw I doubt many true muslims will argue that.
    nope none will brO , too bad sum fat corrupt leaders hav decided to call Allahs beautiful land "theirs", and we help these fat lords in many ways, i believe muslims keep more peace then any1 else!!!!! (the true muslims). If any1 thinks this is wrong then by all means show me one true muslim who follows the islamic rulings who dun any big action to cause disaster?

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    If the West practise freedom of speech etc so much then we have a right to hold views such as mentioned in Islam Truth post, don’t we? and we didn't make the choice to move to these countries many Muslims were born and brought up here, i will personally be glad to leave very soon Insha'Allah
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Fight&Die4Allah View Post
    If the West practise freedom of speech etc so much then we have a right to hold views such as mentioned in Islam Truth post, don’t we? and we didn't make the choice to move to these countries many Muslims were born and brought up here, i will personally be glad to leave very soon Insha'Allah
    i think its better to change the land Allah has allowed u to dwell in the desert it. But if u feel that u are needed somewhere then by all means

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Abd'Majid View Post
    i think its better to change the land Allah has allowed u to dwell in the desert it. But if u feel that u are needed somewhere then by all means

    u know brother we are needed somewhere else well actually it dont need uis we need it; if u know what i mean lol
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    Re: How I Ended Up in Guantanamo

    format_quote Originally Posted by Fight&Die4Allah View Post
    u know brother we are needed somewhere else well actually it dont need uis we need it; if u know what i mean lol
    lol too perfectly, hardship strengthens iman

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    Re: How I Ended Up in Guantanamo

    format_quote Originally Posted by islam-truth View Post
    What you don't realise this land I live in doesn't belong to some man we as humans only live here, this land belongs to allah as he's the lord of the universe and btw I doubt many true muslims will argue that.
    That is not the issue. The question is not the ultimate owner of the Universe, but whether you have accepted the hospitality of people who have tried to befriend you and whether you are justified in betraying that generosity. I suspect you have and I do not think you are. I think you need to stop. But if you feel differently, then, please go ahead.
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