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Well sisterz n brotherz I have a question and in no way am I trying to start an argument or anythg of the sort, This may be personal and private to some, but for those who wish to answer please know that I am a revert myself and i am curious about these things and finding out others answers helps me to make decisions also.
I want to know what stops you from living inside a Muslim country?
This question is directed to all muslims living outside a muslim country whether your a revert or not....and I would like to know if anyone is planning on living in a muslim country in the future? , InshaAllah.
Puls dis is one assignment I hv to do ...
Much appreciated.
Remember... Allah, subhana watala, sees everything we do!
Why do some Muslims still live in western societies when they oppose western governments and western ways of life?
I can’t understand why some who live in Britain/USA preach so much hatred for the countries they reside in.
I know some who preach this hatred are merely immature and misguide Muslims (imo) and many still to young to leave home but many of these still continue to live in western lands well after they become adult.
So if your living in a Western country and hate there ways what is your reason for staying and not leaving for a Muslim country?
I am not saying all Muslims hate living in the west
Well i was born and raised here in New York...i was jewish born but now ive converted to Islam recently....i think Allah has placed me here speciallly to become Muslim so i have nothing against the west...its just theres no peace anywhere in the world nowadays thats why we should always be like travellers...its just the people that are causing problems what can we do bout it right...thats why we should create our own enviornment, own way..own life to live in ....thats all..so im pretty much happy where i am..
Re: Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?
format_quote Originally Posted by Khadeejah
It is not America itself but the government and how they run America thats what I think Allahu Alim
Exactly.
Nomatter how many times the 'import imams' try to get me to believe that America is an evil country,i refuse to listen.
The people of america are great,they are innocent,they always want to do good,they have a love for justice.
The problem,as pointed by the sister above,is the Government.
The problem is the bush administration.
Once bush loses power over the people of america and a Sane president is put in place,watch peace and tranquility take over the world. That will be the first takeover on this planet in about a decade or two that wont involves Guns and Bombs..
Dont Mistake My Harshness For Strength And Neither Mistake My Kindness For Weakness.
Re: Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?
format_quote Originally Posted by SirZubair
The problem is the bush administration.
Once bush loses power over the people of america and a Sane president is put in place,watch peace and tranquility take over the world. That will be the first takeover on this planet in about a decade or two that wont involves Guns and Bombs..
OMG!
Peace and tranquility will take over the world? Are you implying that the Bush Administration is to blame for all the worlds violence?
Look, there was war in Chechnya before Bush was President. There was war in Palestine before Bush was President. There was war in Africa, the Philipines, Kashmir and many other places before Bush took office.
He may have been involved in his share, but how can you say something like that with a straight face?
Re: Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?
format_quote Originally Posted by imaad_udeen
OMG!
Peace and tranquility will take over the world? Are you implying that the Bush Administration is to blame for all the worlds violence?
Look, there was war in Chechnya before Bush was President. There was war in Palestine before Bush was President. There was war in Africa, the Philipines, Kashmir and many other places before Bush took office.
He may have been involved in his share, but how can you say something like that with a straight face?
Alrite,fair enough,i might have gone too far.
But getting rid of him will be a start
Many things to be done,..but hey,..one dictator at a time ... :brother:
Dont Mistake My Harshness For Strength And Neither Mistake My Kindness For Weakness.
Re: Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?
format_quote Originally Posted by SirZubair
Exactly.
Nomatter how many times the 'import imams' try to get me to believe that America is an evil country,i refuse to listen.
The people of america are great,they are innocent,they always want to do good,they have a love for justice.
The problem,as pointed by the sister above,is the Government.
The problem is the bush administration.
Once bush loses power over the people of america and a Sane president is put in place,watch peace and tranquility take over the world. That will be the first takeover on this planet in about a decade or two that wont involves Guns and Bombs..
Bush is just a puppet brother. You shouldn't be foolish enough to think he is the evil man who ruined America. Clinton was just as evil.
Re: Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?
I live in Manchester, but i hate it here. I hate the way that poeple are getting more and more prejudiced without even knowing about islam. U can't even study islam in peace. Otherwise it's ok here coz i have lots of cousins here.
But more than anything else i want to move to a muslim country where i can study my deen. And inshaallah we are gonna move in a year or two.
Re: Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?
I intend on leaving this country oneday but its the love to be close to my family which prevents me. This country is fitnah central, dirty disgusting things such as drunkards are allowed to roam, the sooner i escape such an environment the better.
If you ask why im here, circumstances dictate my friend , I wish to have an impact on as many people as possible but to be called a radical muslim just for dressing the way i do is not nice! So if my whole family was in saudi arabia i wud definitly have left this country ages ago !
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Re: Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?
format_quote Originally Posted by Abd'Majid
I intend on leaving this country oneday but its the love to be close to my family which prevents me. This country is fitnah central, dirty disgusting things such as drunkards are allowed to roam, the sooner i escape such an environment the better.
If you ask why im here, circumstances dictate my friend , I wish to have an impact on as many people as possible but to be called a radical muslim just for dressing the way i do is not nice! So if my whole family was in saudi arabia i wud definitly have left this country ages ago !
ZIGZACTLY!!!! so totally agree! i tried to bug my family to move to saudi arabia but sadly... anyway alhamdu lillah we plan to move to pakistan soon now insha allah-can't wait! (hope the rest of our relatives follow)
Re: Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?
Governments aside. Why do many choose to stay in western cultures if they don’t like our ways of life (drinking, not being covered up…etc).
It seems that you either have Muslims who are happy to live within a culture like the west or Muslims who aren’t but only “use” our education systems and then want to bugger off.
Do Muslims countries have a poor education/schooling system for both male and females?
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Re: Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?
format_quote Originally Posted by j4763
Governments aside. Why do many choose to stay in western cultures if they don’t like our ways of life (drinking, not being covered up…etc).
It seems that you either have Muslims who are happy to live within a culture like the west or Muslims who aren’t but only “use” our education systems and then want to bugger off.
Do Muslims countries have a poor education/schooling system for both male and females?
Hey what's with the language? If u are saying that we muslims use the western countries, then why don't u look at how the west uses the poorer countries for such cheap labour etc?:rant:
Re: Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?
format_quote Originally Posted by Asma1
Hey what's with the language? If u are saying that we muslims use the education systems, then why don't u look at how the west uses the poorer countries for such cheap labour etc?:rant:
too true asma1! especially how britain used 'free trade' to force all the other nations to play along and it ripped em off their wealth just so it could become the ruling state eh?
Re: Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?
format_quote Originally Posted by Asma1
Hey what's with the language? If u are saying that we muslims use the western countries, then why don't u look at how the west uses the poorer countries for such cheap labour etc?:rant:
Well i agree that its wrong that we use other countries for cheap labour. Were putting our own people out of jobs. But in saying that were creating jobs for people around the world. £1 an hour mite be pittance to us but mean a lot to someone whose currency is very weak. A pound mite feed them for a day?
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Re: Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?
format_quote Originally Posted by j4763
Well i agree that its wrong that we use other countries for cheap labour. Were putting our own people out of jobs. But in saying that were creating jobs for people around the world. £1 an hour mite be pittance to us but mean a lot to someone whose currency is very weak. A pound mite feed them for a day?
OK-fisrt you do stuff which makes other countries poor, then you pity em and to make itlook like ur not all bad you donate £1 back to em thinking thye should appreciate it even though they are in the poor situation because of you in the first place...? sorry doesn't make sense!
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