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    Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??

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    Asalaamu Alakim

    ~*I hope u r all in da best state of health 'N' iman inshallah*~

    Well sisterz n brotherz I have a question and in no way am I trying to start an argument or anythg of the sort, This may be personal and private to some, but for those who wish to answer please know that I am a revert myself and i am curious about these things and finding out others answers helps me to make decisions also.

    I want to know what stops you from living inside a Muslim country?

    This question is directed to all muslims living outside a muslim country whether your a revert or not....and I would like to know if anyone is planning on living in a muslim country in the future? , InshaAllah.


    Puls dis is one assignment I hv to do ...

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    Assalam alaikum,

    I live in England. I think the education here is better.
    Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?


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    I wonder if my point is valid. I was recently asked to live in Pakistan, after spending 3 months their.

    As a non-religous person I would have stayed accepted the offer for as a Muslim country I found it great country, and "they all stared at me too........"

    Pakistani life has many traps of life and your situation can easily become desperate, I found that life in pakistan is good only if you have money, the more you have the better it is. Without state support for unemployment, social difficulties can arise. Pakistan in my view one of the model countries for Islam and how to begin to resolve your problems and become a great nation. Pakistan and the British have quite a history, some bad though mostly good. And I think the two cultures forget this and that is a great shame......
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Osman
    Assalam alaikum,

    I live in England. I think the education here is better.
    we both agree on this
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    Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?


    "I spent thirty years learning manners, and I spent twenty years learning knowledge."

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    Interersting question ....

    Hmmm.. i Think it depends on us whether we would like to live in a muslim country or non muslim country.. they both have gt their own advantages and disadvantages... if there r people who r ambitiouss and want to make something out of their life n want to get higher education, along with CLASS JObs .. then i guess non muslim countries .. like UK n USA ( correct me if i m wrng) wud b great places ....However if u want to live in an environment which wud treat u like ur OWN FAmily, or want to b surrounded by muslim pple, n where theres like deeni (islamic) environment .. n WANt to Learn arabic (lol) then muslim country wud b good ..

    but .. nowadays .. if we r to look at the muslim n non muslim country theres nt much differencee ... if i was to compare a non muslim country ( UK ) with muslim country ( SAUDI) .. i m sure there r MORE SIMILARITIESSS than Differences .. so realy in my opinion livin in a muslim or non muslim country doesnt really affect me.. its up2 us How we want to live our lives .. then be it muslim or non muslim place .. as long as our intentions r good. anyfin possible

    (ok, hope it makes sence )

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    indeed that is true sister.
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    I couldn't have put it better myself!
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    Aslaamu Alkium Broz and Sisz

    ~*I hope u r all in da best state of health 'N' iman inshallah*~

    Thanx broz and sisz 4 da replyz,,

    Always ask Allah for what is best for you, since He is the One who knows all that is good for us and all that is bad for us.

    we may think something is bad for us when it is actually full of benefit
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    we may think something is bad for us when it is actually full of benefit
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Khaldun

    Jazaaka Allahu Kharaih brother...
    Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?

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    Exclamation Re: Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??

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    Asalaamu Alakim

    ~*I hope u r all in da best state of health 'N' iman inshallah*~

    Well sisterz n brotherz I have a question and in no way am I trying to start an argument or anythg of the sort, This may be personal and private to some, but for those who wish to answer please know that I am a revert myself and i am curious about these things and finding out others answers helps me to make decisions also.

    I want to know what stops you from living inside a Muslim country?

    This question is directed to all muslims living outside a muslim country whether your a revert or not....and I would like to know if anyone is planning on living in a muslim country in the future? , InshaAllah.


    Puls dis is one assignment I hv to do ...

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    alhamdulillah i'm a revert tryin to move to a muslim country, but it's soooo hard, to many obstacles, inshallah I'll be patient with what Allah decrees and accept it

    Also I know some brothers who moved their families to Egypt, and the UAE, and they still live in the USA, they've stated that it's difficult however the family are benefiting and living amongst the muslims, alhamdulilah
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    Re: Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??



    I live in Scotland because my parents chose to emigrate to Britain before I was born.
    I have had the choice of living in Pakistan but chose not to. The reasons were that: I went to Pakistan to study Islamic studies at Al-Huda thus stayed two years there. What I saw in Pakistan was nothing Islamic - except for the Adhaan which could be heard. Overall i saw less muslims actually practicing Islam than the muslims in Glasgow. After studying, i felt i my duty to come back to Glasgow and teach what knowledge i had gained. I know the way the people in Glasgow, who do not have the knowledge of Islam, behave as i was one of them once therefore it is a duty upon me to live here and teach. I know the kind of problems people go through and can relate to them very well which is why i can advise them accordingly.

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    Re: Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??

    format_quote Originally Posted by Bint Abdusattar


    I live in Scotland because my parents chose to emigrate to Britain before I was born.
    I have had the choice of living in Pakistan but chose not to. The reasons were that: I went to Pakistan to study Islamic studies at Al-Huda thus stayed two years there. What I saw in Pakistan was nothing Islamic - except for the Adhaan which could be heard. Overall i saw less muslims actually practicing Islam than the muslims in Glasgow. After studying, i felt i my duty to come back to Glasgow and teach what knowledge i had gained. I know the way the people in Glasgow, who do not have the knowledge of Islam, behave as i was one of them once therefore it is a duty upon me to live here and teach. I know the kind of problems people go through and can relate to them very well which is why i can advise them accordingly.


    sister I know a :brother: right now who lives in islamabad and he's from the US, and mentioned to me the same thing in regards of the deen in Pakistan, and how it's very minimal there. Subhnallah he stated that deen in this country is basically secondary

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    Yeah that brother was right - it definitely was not primary. I thought about staying in pakistan and doing teaching Islam there but i felt that i could not relate to the people too well - nothing to do with the scorching heat!!
    We only have to look at the leaders of Pakistan and the influentials - no wonder the people are in the state they are in. They/we all need good role models in our environment, only then can people get support and encouragement to live like proper muslims.

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    Cuz there were virtually no imaams here, and a new masjid opened and they called my dad to perform taraweeh. they liked him a lot and asked him if he'd be a full time imaam for the community and therefore we're living here.
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    Re: Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??

    Asalamu Alaikum

    Hmm, a really good question. I've never really thought about it to be honest, but my country at times does seem to be a Muslim country, sometimes.

    I like it here anyway, there's better education available, more opportunities and you can also go pray at a mosque which won't even be a 15 minute walk from your home.

    Besides, it's good for the mind to live in a multi-cultural society, I think so anyway and I also think that us Muslims who try hard to practice in a non-Muslim country will/shall be be getting double the reward for our actions.

    I've read it loads of times before where the authors say, there will become a time where if anyone can just hold onto two sunnahs of the prophet, they will be saved. These are the beard, and keeping the trousers above the ankles. Anyone who can do that in a country like mine, seriously has strong faith and must be getting double the reward easily. Personally, I practice the first, and try to even practice the second whenever I can. (Yes, my imaan is not on that level but those who try, are the ones who succeed in the end, insha Allah.)

    Sorry for the essay-type answer, y'all can wake up again.
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    Re: Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??

    Asalamu Alaikum

    format_quote Originally Posted by mm_ca04


    Cuz there were virtually no imaams here, and a new masjid opened and they called my dad to perform taraweeh. they liked him a lot and asked him if he'd be a full time imaam for the community and therefore we're living here.
    By the way, that's how my grandfather came here (England) some time ago. And my father too afterwards. They're both retired now though.
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    Re: Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??

    Assalamo-alaikum-wa-rahmatullah-hey-wabrakatu

    I used to live in the UK - but now live and work in Saudi. Allhumdolillah its really good and I am enjoying every minute.

    However, not everyone may have the opportunity or may not want to move to a muslim country due to various reasons e.g. family, friends, education, quality of life etc.

    Also if everyone moved to a muslim country how would non muslims learn about our culture and what we believe in?

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