Muslim Unity - Lebanon

format_quote Originally Posted by AvarAllahNoor

Now people keep telling me about the unity of Muslims, now tell me which of these countries have intervened with what is going on in Lebanon? Do they not care, or are they afraid to defend their own kind?

Getting involved in other people's fights is not always a wise option. As such, it often takes time for others to participate (if any do at all). Also, the countries may be waiting for the right moment.

Another possibility is that those other countries are dealing with their own problems first.

Finally, just because the entire country hasn't intervened, doesn't mean that individuals haven't (through funding perhaps)

Although all of those countries posted have a very large majority Muslim Population, only a handfull have an Islamic Government. Most of the countries listed are under a secular form of government. It is doubtfull the secular government would get involved in what it would view as a religious problem.

format_quote Originally Posted by AvarAllahNoor

Listed below are the muslim countries...

Bahrain
Indonesia
Iran
Jordan
Kuwait
Qatar
Kazakhstan
Oman
Saudi Arabia
Malaysia
Pakistan
Maldives
Mali
Mauritania
Morocco
Niger
Benin
Brunei
Burkina Faso
Cameroon
Chad
Comoros
Djibout
Egypt
Gabon
Gambia
Guinea
Guinea Bissau

Why there are no Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Azerbaijan, Iraq, Bangladesh, Syria, Turkey, Albania, Bosnia, Algeria, Tunisia, Sudan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Senegal?

Plus Guinea Bissau, Gabon, Cameroon, Benin are non Muslim majority countries.

format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian

Why there are no , Tajikistan, , , , Iraq, Bangladesh, Algeria, Sudan, Somalia, Yemen, Senegal?
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These are the countries that came to mind. And the ones you refer to are hardly in any situation to intervene, Unless of course they condemn it verbally!

format_quote Originally Posted by AvarAllahNoor

These are the countries that came to mind. And the ones you refer to are hardly in any situation to intervene, Unless of course they condemn it verbally!

Muslim leaders just talk too much.... I dont know why? Lots of talks no action! OIC became 'Oh....I see'

format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble

What "religious problem"?! The heart of the dispute is about land, not religion.

The question whether other Muslims should intervene is very much rooted in religion though. The nationalist elements in Islam are the reason why so many here believe that Muslims in, say, Bangladesh or the UK, are supposed to fight to protect their 'brothers' in Lebanon and Palestine.

So while I agree the conflict itself is largely secular, the question whether Muslims in other countries should intervene is very much religious in Islam, even if these people are not directly affected.

Lebanon needs ANY KIND OF Unity!

I just heard on CNN that Sunnis and the Lebanese government are cooperating and helping Hezbollah fight the Israeli invasion.

I've heard that the Christian Lebanese, of Aramaic descent, will not be cooperating or supporting Hezbollah. Its sad, especially how tensions weren't present between Hezbollah and the Lebanese Christians.

Anyhow, the Muslim world, for the great part, was castrated by the U.S., most strong Muslim nations; Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt don't have a voice or the courage to speak out for ANY cause or reason, just the opinions they must give in order to recieve aid and positive media coverage.

format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir

Lebanon needs ANY KIND OF Unity!

I just heard on CNN that Sunnis and the Lebanese government are cooperating and helping Hezbollah fight the Israeli invasion.

I've heard that the Christian Lebanese, of Aramaic descent, will not be cooperating or supporting Hezbollah. Its sad, especially how tensions weren't present between Hezbollah and the Lebanese Christians.

Anyhow, the Muslim world, for the great part, was castrated by the U.S., most strong Muslim nations; Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt don't have a voice or the courage to speak out for ANY cause or reason, just the opinions they must give in order to recieve aid and positive media coverage.

Emile Lahoud is a Maronite and will send Lebanese army support Hezballah when Israeli invade Lebanon. I've heard that former Christian militia leader, Michel Aoun also will support Hezballah.

Hezballah also gained popularity among Sunnis outside Lebanon, including Malaysia.

format_quote Originally Posted by syilla

some malaysians are there too...

helping as much as they can...

is it? I thought all Malaysians had been evacuated to Syria.

format_quote Originally Posted by Dahir

Lebanon needs ANY KIND OF Unity!

I just heard on CNN that Sunnis and the Lebanese government are cooperating and helping Hezbollah fight the Israeli invasion.

I've heard that the Christian Lebanese, of Aramaic descent, will not be cooperating or supporting Hezbollah. Its sad, especially how tensions weren't present between Hezbollah and the Lebanese Christians.

Anyhow, the Muslim world, for the great part, was castrated by the U.S., most strong Muslim nations; Turkey, Pakistan, Egypt don't have a voice or the courage to speak out for ANY cause or reason, just the opinions they must give in order to recieve aid and positive media coverage.

In egypt there are lots of protests on the streets but anyone that opposes mubarak gets thrown in jail and faces miserable torture... well known fact egyptian prisons torture muslims worst than ones in America... people can't revolt anywhere they do their corrupt govt. imprisons them.... Mubarak undoubtedly gets aid from US which goes to expand his girth but not to aid the people.... he keeps America happy... he keeps himself happy whilst the people suffer.... once people stopped praising God and started praising the sultans it was pretty much over....

format_quote Originally Posted by PurestAmbrosia

but anyone that opposes mubarak gets thrown in jail and faces miserable torture... well known fact egyptian prisons torture muslims worst than ones in America... people can't revolt anywhere they do their corrupt govt. imprisons them.... Mubarak undoubtedly gets aid from US which goes to expand his girth but not to aid the people.... he keeps America happy... he keeps himself happy whilst the people suffer.... once people stopped praising God and started praising the sultans it was pretty much over....

Just the same here....

format_quote Originally Posted by KAding

The question whether other Muslims should intervene is very much rooted in religion though. The nationalist elements in Islam are the reason why so many here believe that Muslims in, say, Bangladesh or the UK, are supposed to fight to protect their 'brothers' in Lebanon and Palestine.

So while I agree the conflict itself is largely secular, the question whether Muslims in other countries should intervene is very much religious in Islam, even if these people are not directly affected.

That's what defines muslim is that we should do the right and forbid the wrong. Our concern does just come out our deen, but the conciouseness in us, that we are brothers and sisters, and it is not base in nationality. Even if we take the view of right and wrong, it is still the same that we as shpuld help the people who are being opressed, who been driven from their home and land.

Let me give you an example. Imagine you have this beutiful house and I come and kill few of your family members, some fled in terror, and I move in. My uncle Sam who may or may not be related to me recognise it as my home although it is your home, and call you shall respect it as my home and let me live in peace in what was your home rightfully. Would you agree to that?

format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian

Why there are no Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Azerbaijan, Iraq, Bangladesh, Syria, Turkey, Albania, Bosnia, Algeria, Tunisia, Sudan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Senegal?

Plus Guinea Bissau, Gabon, Cameroon, Benin are non Muslim majority countries.

bangladesh is not a muslim country.. the majority is muslim tho..

format_quote Originally Posted by aamirsaab

Getting involved in other people's fights is not always a wise option. As such, it often takes time for others to participate (if any do at all). Also, the countries may be waiting for the right moment.

Another possibility is that those other countries are dealing with their own problems first.

Finally, just because the entire country hasn't intervened, doesn't mean that individuals haven't (through funding perhaps)

wel sed bro..

format_quote Originally Posted by MusLiM 4 LiFe

bangladesh is not a muslim country.. the majority is muslim tho..

Well, also to note bangladesh is quite poor in education way's and especially in matter's of their deen. Their is attempt by some of the so call political parties that gradually undermine the duty of muslim to educate the muslim people in the deen, by removing institute that teaches the deen forcefully, politically, financially. Only you have to look at which political parties is shaking hand with which person of foreign goverment, who has systematically tried to undermine Islam and deny it to the people only reducing it to be tought in the back closest. Trust me I am from that origin and I been to that country. They are have some racial ideology, which now day's goes uner the name of Nationality (i.e. Tradition, culture in cost of the deen) which are promoted to the ingorant mass. However their are people of great imaan in bangladesh who are trying to do their Job, and duty to allah in all onslought