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    Police Foil Plot To 'Blow Up Planes'

    Police have foiled a major plot to "commit mass murder on an unimaginable scale'' by destroying as many as 10 passenger jets in mid-air.

    The targets were flights leaving UK airports to the United States.

    Anti-terror police arrested 21 people in London, the Thames Valley and Birmingham as stringent new security measures were imposed on all UK airports.

    A ban on hand luggage along with other checks and precautions led to chaos at airports where scores of flights were cancelled and massive queues built up.

    Metropolitan Police Deputy Commissioner Paul Stephenson said the plot was designed to cause "untold death and destruction''.

    He added: "This was intended to be mass murder on an unimaginable scale.''

    Searches were on-going at a number of addresses, he added. Sources indicated that the majority if not all of those arrested were British.

    Home Secretary John Reid said the plot represented "a major threat to the UK and international partners''.

    He said that the terrorists planned to "bring down a number of aircraft through mid-flight explosions, causing a considerable loss of life''.

    The official UK terror threat state was raised to "critical" - its highest level - as travellers were urged not to attempt to catch flights unless it was essential.

    Among the measures introduced at airports were specific restrictions on taking liquids on board, prompting speculation that the terrorists were planning to smuggle liquid explosive devices on to jets.

    It is believed the covert investigation had been going on for several months and it is understood that officers made the arrests not because they feared an attack was likely to happen immediately but for other intelligence reasons, which meant they had to act quickly.

    The Department for Transport said it was hoped that the extra security measures would be needed "for a limited period only''.

    Downing Street said the anti-terror operation had been undertaken "with the full support'' of Prime Minister Tony Blair, who is on holiday in the Caribbean.

    He had been "in constant contact'' with the situation in the UK and had briefed US President George Bush, a spokesman said.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by HusamLah View Post
    it makes us look stupid by sending out the message that we dont acknowledge the faults of our fellow muslims. not aimed at you wilberhum
    I glad that it was not ment for me. But I totally agree with the "we dont acknowledge the faults of our fellow muslims". It is a fact that sadens me and hinders my restect for some.
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    Re: Terror Threat Now Critical

    Abu ghraib prisoners being harmed - conspiracy....

    Haditha killings - conspiracy...

    9/11 done by muslims - fact!!

    9/11 done by USA - conspiracy...

    girl raped by marines and burnt alive her baby sister shot dead- conspiracy...

    man shot eight times was a terrorist and deserved it - fact!!

    man shot eight times was a brazilian who had nothing to do with terrorisem - errr who!???

    7/7 done by muslims - fact!!

    iraqi mosque bombings done by UK solders - conspiracy...

    forrest gate raid - justified!

    Forrest gate brothers innocent - err no if there not terrorists there pedophiles!

    israel bombing lebbanon - its self defence!!

    Lebbanon bombing israel - **** terrorists!!

    Iran and syria arm hezbollah - illegal!!!!

    USA & UK arm Israel - war on terror....


    whatever....

    hypocrisy thrives in the world today to the point where these muppets think its ok to kill muslim innocents but cry blood when its there civilians!???

    i see people as people wether in the west or in the east they all bleed the same and its a shame they ever get harmed... i can clearly say by what ive heard from people on this forum and in this world its certainly not the same with the majority in the west...

    hypocrits thrive...and its sick....
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    girl raped by marines and burnt alive her baby sister shot dead- conspiracy...

    Are you sure this was a conspiracy? What makes a conspiracy? What makes it a fact? Have you not been updated on the marines that took it i turns to rape an iraqi gril than shoot her in cold blood? Or have i just jumped the gun and misunderstood your post?
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    You analigy fits any "Totally Bigoted American". If you want to see how a "Totally Bigoted Muslim" sees it, just reverse the conclusion. I acknowledge that the America I love has commited many eviles. Do you acknoledge that Muslims have commited many eviles?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by HusamLah View Post
    it makes us look stupid by sending out the message that we dont acknowledge the faults of our fellow muslims. not aimed at you wilberhum
    No,they are no muslims, maybe muslim born, but they don't follow the path of Allah ! So they don't deserve to be called muslims !
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    format_quote Originally Posted by guyabano View Post
    No,they are no muslims, maybe muslim born, but they don't follow the path of Allah ! So they don't deserve to be called muslims !

    I'm not sure about the rules of calling somebody a non-Muslim, but they certainly aren't following the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)'s laws of combat. Killing innocents is forbidden. What they are doing doesn't help Muslims either, they just encourage more wars and more persecution. Which tends to encourage more bombings.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by guyabano View Post
    No,they are no muslims, maybe muslim born, but they don't follow the path of Allah ! So they don't deserve to be called muslims !
    Were back to that old garbage.
    All Muslims are good, because if they arn't good they really arn't Muslims. laying:
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    Re: Terror Threat Now Critical

    People calling themselves Muslims do commit crimes.

    Happy? Can we get back to the topic at hand? Thanks.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Rou View Post
    girl raped by marines and burnt alive her baby sister shot dead- conspiracy...
    Alive? LOL! What a joker! She wasn't burnt alive, evrybody knows this.
    I like how you just add stuff for flair. You are very dramatic and flamboyant, do you wear a colored feather boa around your neck when you go out? It's all about the drama hey buddy? Very colorful and dramatic descriptions when describing the wrongdoings of nonmuslims, and a casual brush off or dismissal when refering to any possible wrong by a muslim. - such hypocrisy - pathetic. So many hypocrites....

    Drama queen....
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    Shaykh Fowzaan advises the Muslim Ummah
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    Shaykh Saalih ibn Fowzaan says:

    "At this present time (today), the Muslims are suffering from evil attacks from the overpowering enemy (forces) from all sides, from the war in Afghanistan, the war in Iraq, the war in Palestine, (and) the war in Lebanon. And that which we hear and read from our preachers (khateebs) and writers (journalists), all of it is condemnation of the actions of the enemies. And there is no doubt in (any of) these issues. However, are the disbelieving enemies affected by these raised voices? The disbelievers, from long ago, have wanted to wipe out Islaam from existence, as Allaah (Ta'aala) says:

    {And they will never cease fighting you until they turn you back from your religion (Islaamic Monotheism) if they can}, [Soorah al-Baqarah, Aayah 217].

    But the issue is, what have the Muslims prepared in response to them and in preventing their attacks?

    Indeed it is obligatory upon them, firstly, to: Look at their current state in terms of their religion and their adherence to it, for indeed that which has afflicted them is as a result of negligence in (practicing) their religion. And in a narration (it is said): ((If the one who knows Me is disobedient to Me, I will cause the one who does not know me to overpower him (in authority))). And what happened to the Banee Israaeel (Israelites) when they left their religion and caused mischief on the Earth, Allaah caused them to be overpowered (in authority) by the disbelieving Magians (fire worshippers) and:

    {they entered the very innermost parts of your homes} as Allaah has mentioned at the beginning of Soorah al-Israa., Aayah 005].

    And Allaah threatened them, that if they were to return (back) to their ways, then He will punish them. So it is imperative that we assess our current affairs and rectify that which is corrupt from our affairs with regard to the religion, for (certainly) the Sunnah of Allaah does not change. And Allaah (Ta'aala) says:

    {Verily, Allaah will not change the (good) condition of a people as long as they do not change their state (of goodness) themselves (by committing sins and by being ungrateful and disobedient to Allaah). But when Allaah wills a people's punishment, there can be no turning it back, and they will find besides Him no protector}, [Soorah ar-Ra'd, Aayah 11]

    Secondly, it is (incumbent) upon us to prepare ourselves with that which we can confront our enemies with, as Allaah (Ta'aala) says:

    {And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war (tanks, planes, missiles, artillery) to threaten thereby the enemy of Allaah and your enemy, and others besides them, whom you may not know, (but) whom Allaah does know}, [Soorah al-Anfaal, Aayah 60].

    And that is by putting together (preparing) armies and (acquiring) suitable weapons and (thereby attaining) defensive strength/power.

    Thirdly, the unification of the Muslims upon the (firm) belief of Tawheed and ruling in accordance with the Sharee'ah (of Allaah) and (firm) adherence to Islaam in all our affairs from (our) dealings and (good) manners and ruling by the Book of Allaah and commanding the good and forbidding the evil, and calling to (the Path of) Allaah upon (sound) knowledge, insight and sincerity.

    Allaah (Ta'aala) says:

    {And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allaah (i.e. this Qur.aan), and be not divided among yourselves}, [Soorah Aal-'Imraan, Aayah 103] and He (Ta'aala) says:

    {and do not dispute (with one another) lest you lose courage and your strength departs, and be patient. Surely, Allaah is with those who are as-Saabiroon (the patient)}, [Soorah Al-Anfaal, Aayah 46]

    So it is not possible to unite whilst there are differences in 'aqeedah and in (our) aims and goals, until the 'aqeedah is correct and the goals are one (namely) for the victory of the Truth and the raising of the Word of Allaah (above all else); If only the preachers and advisors in their speeches and advice would concentrate on these issues (just) as they are (concentrating on) criticizing the attacking enemy.

    The evil aims of the enemy must be explained (exposed), and that the weakening of the Muslims and the grabbing of their wealth and possessions are not (the) only intended (aims), rather, on a major level it is intended to corrupt their 'aqeedah and (cause) their turning away from their religion until they have destroyed them to pieces.

    And this is what I wished to warn about with regards to this catastrophe."
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Geronimo View Post
    Because there's no way muslims would cause terror using planes... oh wait
    The house of Islam is divided, remember? This one group cannot speak for all the households... and doesn't.

    Besides, they just did me a favor. I was pissed to the ends of the Earth that my government closed a base here and sent away the 102nd Air Division (stupid base closure deal). Effective today, they've just re-activated the base and are returning my fighter pilots.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by GARY View Post
    Alive? LOL! What a joker! She wasn't burnt alive, evrybody knows this.

    Drama queen....
    Drama Queen? You're minimizing the pain and mistrust they felt by this horrific crime. Even if the transmission of the event is incorrect, the event itself speaks volumes! As a WOMAN, anyone who commits Rape or Murder is toast. Those who are evil enough to commit both are begging for it (wrath).

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Ninth_Scribe View Post
    Drama Queen? You're minimizing the pain and mistrust they felt by this horrific crime.
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    Absolutely not. Someone that is very near and dear to me was raped. And someone else that was very near and dear to me was recently murdered. So no, I would not attempt to minimize the pain felt by those affected by this crime. I was pointing out that Rou was(as he often does) embelishing the story for dramatic effect. If we are going to have any rational mature conversation on these issues, then we at least need to have our facts straight, and cannot tolerate anyone altering the story to fit their own agenda.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Geronimo View Post
    So you think we have it coming? That we deserve to have our planes blown up? Well let me tell you something you disgust me. You don't wanna play this game because there will be mass deportations and a lot more dead muslims.

    Geronimo,

    please read the letter i have posted up here again more carefully and chill a little please,

    i didnt justify the attacks, in fact the opposite and said that if people use an idiology overseas then although it would be wrong, it would perhaps be expected if those same disgusting thought patterns are turned right back on you.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by GARY View Post
    I was pointing out that Rou was (as he often does) embellishing the story for dramatic effect. If we are going to have any rational mature conversation on these issues, then we at least need to have our facts straight, and cannot tolerate anyone altering the story to fit their own agenda.
    911 was MY fault!

    I was a young, spirited, free-bird. It took some time for me to learn to love life and once I did that, I didn't want to be disturbed ~ by ANYONE for ANY REASON!

    I tore across the open sea and flew across the sky and my spirit soared, and I was HAPPY! After my stay in New York City, I decided people (humanity) were a thing to avoid, so I took jobs that offered me a safe distance from them. Technical jobs, because machinery was easier for me to understand. When something goes wrong with machinery, you can tell what the problem is simply by how the machine behaves. The only complexity was the design itself, but that was always pre-recorded in the manufacturer's blue print.

    After New York City, my life was going pretty good. It wasn't perfect, but it was something I could work with. I wanted to go to MIT and my dream almost happened back in 1986 when the Air Force offered a special program. Tuition reimbursement in exchange for a two year contract of service. To me, it was a dream come true, since I more than qualified in terms of technical skills. Besides this, I loved jets. That plan was ruined... because I had children, the Air Force wouldn't accept me. Despite all this, I did grow very found of the base here, Otis.

    On 911, two planes were taken from my home turf, Logan Airport in Boston. What most of you don't know is that it was two fighter jets from Otis that were scrambled. I wanted this mission to fail. Me, that's right! Because I knew what their orders were. You see, they weren't being sent to help those people onboard the flights. On the contrary (stops to wipe tears from face), they were ordered to intercept them. This is a polite word for blasting them out of the sky! The lives of the people on board were considered forfeit.

    I'd never felt more ashamed than I did on the morning of September 11th, 2001. It was bad enough that the planes were taken from my own airport, but the mission to save New York City from the attack failed also! I took this very personally! Especially when Brach ordered the closure of Otis Air Force Base. I tried to fight to save it. I pulled out everything I knew about the strategics, possible targets, blind spots and what have you... but the base was shut down. After all, it wasn't responsive when it came to intervening in an actual attack, was it?

    I was so furious at the time, I decided to vent my anger on Osama bin Laden. In my mind, this was all his fault, not ours! I didn't care to hear his side of the story or know what the attack was all about, I couldn't believe he would do this to me and, in my rage, I sent every wolf I could find to hunt him down and I poured every ounce of my being into seeking his destruction... no matter what the cost.

    It wasn't until I came across Abu Musab Al Zarqawi that I actually began to listen to the other side of the story. He was an incredible warrior who had a way of pacifying my rage and I seemed to have a way of understanding his. He laid it out for me, the whole story, event-by-event.... and I felt so ashamed.... I think I actually had a nervous breakdown for some time after that. Since then I've been trying to work out the issue of Palestine... I have the records that are needed for that and I promised to shine my light on those records... bright enough for the whole world to see.

    As I sit here, right now... I can't say I agree with what Osama bin Laden did, but I will say I understand. We were ignoring something and what he did was the only way he had to bring this to my attention. It shouldn't have taken all of this, but that's just as much my fault as it is his. We can share the blame for that.

    This new plot of his, whether real or fake, restored my base and my fighter pilots were returned to me, but I lost the one who was beloved to me, who should never have been called my enemy. I don't feel I deserve this, but I promise, for him, I'll earn my wings. I won't rest until this whole mess is resolved. That's what I'm doing here now. Collecting every perception that exists concerning this state of affairs because I know that no one person is right or wrong. I know the truth is somewhere in-between us all... I'll find it. The pieces will come together one by one and, Inshallah, we'll all learn from it and split the difference on the blames.

    That's what it will come down to you know? We'll all have to learn to... split the difference!

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    yeah right! these r d same kind intelligence who purposedly LIED about iraq and WMD! these whole terror plot is a humbug! it's just another publicity stunt 2 diverts the attention of the public from the fumbling tony blair and d whole issue in lebanon.... they hv LIED once, and what made it any difference now?

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    format_quote Originally Posted by adi8putra View Post
    yeah right! these r d same kind intelligence who purposedly LIED about iraq and WMD! these whole terror plot is a humbug! it's just another publicity stunt 2 diverts the attention of the public from the fumbling tony blair and d whole issue in lebanon.... they hv LIED once, and what made it any difference now?
    You're absolutely right. Yes! They lied about Iraq... and because of that, thousands died that didn't need to! But you can believe me when I tell you, I'm paying dearly for that now! Every morning when I wake up I'm terrified to open my eyes, because I can still feel him. He's right there with me, but I know the moment I open my eyes, he'll disappear... because he was taken from me! And I have no one but myself to blame for that!!!

    But this has to stop. I don't want any more people to have to know what that feels like!!!

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    i think this is a way to divert whats going on in midle east. nevertheless if ther ewere some wackos planning to blow up planes and there was a serious threat then Alhumdulillah it has been stopped

    The War in the Middle East is what created these wako's.

    What they fail to realize is that they have put tha magnifine glass on themselves no instead of Lebonon.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by lavikor201 View Post
    The War in the Middle East is what created these wako's.

    What they fail to realize is that they have put tha magnifine glass on themselves no instead of Lebonon.
    You're taking an awefully high and mighty tone for one who is just as responsible. No splitting the difference with the blame for you, heh? Still, my way or the highway? That's OK Lavikor, fortunately for me you don't speak for all your people.

    Hezbollah are doing what is in the best interest of their people. I'm very proud of them because you have no clue how hard that was for them to do!

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