Kidnapped Fox journalists convert to Islam on video, to be spared of death; released

It's interesting that the converted to Islam after being kidnapped. The similar case was with Yvonne Ridley and the Taliban.

They have already said that they were forced at gunpoint to convert to islam and have renounced it. I guess the 'Holy Jihad' like to force conversion even though it is supposidly against the Quran to do so.

They have already said that they were forced at gunpoint to convert to islam and have renounced it. I guess the 'Holy Jihad' like to force conversion even though it is supposidly against the Quran to do so.

Can you provide a source to verify this? If this is true, then such a deed is indeed despicable. Forced conversion are always futile.

A videotape released on Wednesday showed the two men, dressed in tracksuits, sitting on a blanket in front of a black background. They appeared fairly relaxed and in good health. Both said that they were fine and being treated well.

A very similar case:

If you were being interrogated by the Taleban as a suspected US spy, it might be hard to imagine a happy ending.

But for journalist Yvonne Ridley, the ordeal in Afghanistan led her to convert to a religion she says is "the biggest and best family in the world".

The formerly hard-drinking Sunday school teacher became a Muslim after reading the Koran on her release.

She now describes radical cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri as "quite sweet really" and says the Taleban have suffered an unfair press.

Working as a reporter for the Sunday Express in September 2001, Ridley was smuggled from Pakistan across the Afghan border.

But her cover was blown when she fell off her donkey in front of a Taleban soldier near Jalalabad, revealing a banned camera underneath her robes.

Her first thought as the furious young man came running towards her?

"Wow - you're gorgeous," she says.

"He had those amazing green eyes that are peculiar to that region of Afghanistan and a beard with a life of its own.

"But fear quickly took over. I did see him again on my way to Pakistan after my release and he waved at me from his car."

Ridley was interrogated for 10 days without being allowed a phone call, and missed her daughter Daisy's ninth birthday.

Of the Taleban, Ridley says: "I couldn't support what they did or believed in, but they were demonised beyond recognition, because you can't drop bombs on nice people."

It has been suggested the 46-year-old is a victim of Stockholm Syndrome, in which hostages take the side of the hostage-takers.

But she says: "I was horrible to my captors. I spat at them and was rude and refused to eat. It wasn't until I was freed that I became interested in Islam."

'Flappy knickers'

Indeed, the Taleban deputy foreign minister was called in when Ridley refused to take her underwear down from the prison washing line, which was in view of soldier's quarters.

"He said, 'Look, if they see those things they will have impure thoughts'."

"Afghanistan was about to be bombed by the richest country in the world and all they were concerned about was my big, flappy, black knickers.

"I realised the US doesn't have to bomb the Taleban - just fly in a regiment of women waving their underwear and they will all run off."

Once she was back in the UK, Ridley turned to the Koran as part of her attempt to understand her experience.

"I was absolutely blown away by what I was reading - not one dot or squiggle had been changed in 1,400 years.

"I have joined what I consider to be the biggest and best family in the world. When we stick together we are absolutely invincible."

What do her Church of England parents in County Durham make of her new family?

"Initially the reaction of my family and friends was one of horror, but now they can all see how much happier, healthier and fulfilled I am.

"And my mother is delighted I've stopped drinking."

What does Ridley feel about the place of women in Islam?

"There are oppressed women in Muslim countries, but I can take you up the side streets of Tyneside and show you oppressed women there.

"Oppression is cultural, it is not Islamic. The Koran makes it crystal clear that women are equal."

And her new Muslim dress is empowering, she says.

"How liberating is it to be judged for your mind and not the size of your bust or length of your legs."

A single mother who has been married three times, she says Islam has freed her from worry over her love life.

"I no longer sit and wait by the phone for a man to ring and I haven't been stood up for months.

"I have no man stress. For the first time since my teens I don't have that pressure to have a boyfriend or husband."

But there has been a phone call from at least one male admirer - north London preacher Abu Hamza al-Masri.

"He said, 'Sister Yvonne, welcome to Islam, congratulations'.

"I explained I hadn't yet taken my final vows and he said, 'Don't be pressured or pushed, the whole community is there for you if you need any help, just call one of the sisters.'

'Straight to hellfire'

"I thought, I can't believe it, this is the fire and brimstone cleric from Finsbury Park mosque and he is quite sweet really.

"I was just about to hang up when he said, 'But there is just one thing I want you to remember. Tomorrow, if you have an accident and die, you will go straight to hellfire'.

"I was so scared that I carried a copy of the vows in my purse until my final conversion last June."

And the hardest part of her new life?

"Praying five times a day. And I am still struggling to give up cigarettes."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...3673730.stm?ls

Yvonne Ridley is still a Muslim Mashallah

Erm.. it isn't remotely similar.

format_quote Originally Posted by QuranStudy

It's interesting that the converted to Islam after being kidnapped.

They didn't. Not willingly, anyway. The story says

Two kidnapped Fox journalists appeared on a new videotape released by their captors on Sunday in the Gaza Strip, in which the reporters said they had converted to Islam, the Fox News Channel said.

Here's your Source

"We were forced to convert to Islam at gunpoint," Steve Centanni, an American reporter for the US Fox News television network told CNN by telephone from Gaza City Sunday.

"I have the highest respect for Islam, but it was something we felt we had to do because they had the guns and we didn't know what the hell was going on," he said.

I don't think that leaves much room for doubt. Perhaps it's the kidnappers who should be doing the reading up on Jihaad?!

They didn't. Not willingly, anyway. The story says

Two different stories from two different credible sources. If what you say is true, then it's a despicable act indeed. Only time will tell when we see if they "deconvert."

format_quote Originally Posted by QuranStudy

Two different stories from two different credible sources. If what you say is true, then it's a despicable act indeed. Only time will tell when we see if they "deconvert."

I would have thought Centanni's statement rather implies they already have.

There is no contradiction between the two stories. The Reuters one states the facts available to them at the time, and rightly makes no attempt to judge whether the 'conversion' was forced or not. They didn't know.

The AFP story on Google contains vital additional information, the comments of the reporters themselves, which make it quite clear that the 'conversion' was forced at gunpoint.

There is no contradiction between the two stories. The Reuters one states the facts available to them at the time, and rightly makes no attempt to judge whether the 'conversion' was forced or not. They didn't know.

The reuters source claims the captives were treated humanely (see post #6).
Your souce claims the contrary.

Is the 'Holy Jihad Brigade" affiliated with Hamas?

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Is the 'Holy Jihad Brigade" affiliated with Hamas?

No I believe it is a splinter group, that broke off from a right wing element of hamas.

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The reuters source claims the captives were treated humanely (see post #6).
Your souce claims the contrary.

It says that they appeared to be in good health, and that they said they had been treated well. We must assume they said that under the same conditions under which they "converted"; at gunpoint. Even if we don't, in their position what would you have said?!

format_quote Originally Posted by therebbe

.....forced conversions are not a part of Islam

The kidnappers could not be Muslims because Muslims wouldn't do that.

Considering the kidnappers are not Muslims the victims would not be given the Koran and therefore could not convert to Islam.

I'ts all logical!

I hope all non-believers get kidnapped in hope they convert .


No don't see it as evil act - To me its like giving you heaven!