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    Leaders of over 100 Non-aligned Movement nations, including the staunchest U.S. foes, attacked Israel over its month-long offensive in Lebanon, which claimed the lives of over 1,000 innocent people, mostly children.

    They also pledged support for what they described as peaceful resolution to the current U.S.-Iran nuclear standoff.

    In the final declaration Saturday of a summit that gathered some of the world's staunchest American foes, representatives of the 118 nations, issued a 92-page declaration broadly condemning terrorism, yet stating that fighting against foreign occupation should not be labeled as a form of terrorism.

    Besides declaring democracy to be a universal value, the gathering also stressed that no country or region should define it for the whole world, apparently referring to the U.S. non-stop attempts to intervene in the Arab countries’ political system.

    Non-aligned Movement nations’ reps also defended Venezuela as well as other countries’ rights to determine their own forms of government.

    "No one in the Non-aligned Movement thinks that the United States is responsible for all the problems, but many think that it is for some," Cuba's Foreign Minister Felipe Perez Roque said.

    Ailing Cuban President Fidel Castro, who’d been chosen as the president of the movement, stayed at home following doctors' orders.

    Acting Cuban President Raul Castro presided over the meeting that included leaders of two-thirds of the world's nations, including Iran, Venezuela, North Korea, Zimbabwe and a number of other U.S. foes.

    "The United States spends one billion dollars a year in weapons and soldiers," Raul Castro said. "To think that a social and economic order that has proven unsustainable could be maintained by force is simply an absurd idea."

    Also North Korea's No. 2 leader and one of the most vocal critics of the United States, Kim Yong Nam, said his country "would not need even a single nuclear weapon if there no longer existed a U.S. threat," noting that the U.S. financial sanctions have "driven the situation into an unpredictable phase."

    Kim moreover attributed the current global unrest to the U.S. foreign policy and its insistence not to respect other nations’ sovereignty which he said has destroyed "the international order."

    "The United States is attempting to deprive other countries of even their legitimate right to peaceful nuclear activities," he said. He also stressed that the U.S. has been "abusing the human rights issue" to interfere in the internal affairs of foreign countries.

    The United States rejected an invitation to attend the summit, saying it would have no comment on any of the proceedings.

    Also during the summit, many leaders urged the UN to end the U.S. veto power in the Security Council.

    "The U.S. is turning the Security Council into a base for imposing its politics," Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad complained. "Why should people live under the nuclear threat of the U.S.?"

    UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan agreed the Security Council must be more responsive to less powerful countries.

    "The Security Council must reform — for the sake of the developing world, and for the sake of the United Nations itself," the Secretary General told the Non-aligned leaders.

    "The perception of a narrow power-base risks leading to an erosion of the UN's authority and legitimacy — even, some would argue, its neutrality and independence. I have in the past described this as a democracy deficit."
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    Re: Non-aligned nations slam Israeli attacks, U.S. policies

    I'm not quite sure what a "Non-aligned Movement" is supposed to be now the Cold War is long over.

    Looking at that lot (Cuba, North Korea, Iran) it seems more a "we hate America" movement than a "non-aligned" one.
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    Re: Non-aligned nations slam Israeli attacks, U.S. policies

    format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble View Post
    I'm not quite sure what a "Non-aligned Movement" is supposed to be now the Cold War is long over.

    Looking at that lot (Cuba, North Korea, Iran) it seems more a "we hate America" movement than a "non-aligned" one.
    why dont u read about the non-alignment movement before u post.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Aligned_Movement

    here are lists of the countries

    1. Afghanistan
    2. Algeria
    3. Angola
    4. Antigua and Barbuda
    5. Bahamas
    6. Bahrain
    7. Bangladesh
    8. Barbados
    9. Belarus
    10. Belize
    11. Benin
    12. Bhutan
    13. Bolivia
    14. Botswana
    15. Brunei
    16. Burkina Faso
    17. Burundi
    18. Cambodia
    19. Cameroon
    20. Cape Verde
    21. Central African Republic
    22. Chad
    23. Chile
    24. Colombia
    25. Comoros
    26. Congo
    27. Côte d'Ivoire
    28. Cuba
    29. Democratic Republic of Congo
    30. Djibouti
    31. Dominica
    32. Dominican Republic
    33. Ecuador
    34. Egypt
    35. Equatorial Guinea
    36. Eritrea
    37. Ethiopia
    38. Gabon
    39. Gambia
    40. Ghana
    41. Grenada
    42. Guatemala
    43. Guinea
    44. Guinea-Bissau
    45. Guyana
    46. Haiti
    47. Honduras
    48. India
    49. Indonesia
    50. Iran
    51. Iraq
    52. Jamaica
    53. Jordan
    54. Kenya
    55. Kuwait
    56. Laos
    57. Lebanon
    58. Lesotho
    59. Liberia
    60. Libya
    61. Madagascar
    62. Malawi
    63. Malaysia
    64. Maldives
    65. Mali
    66. Mauritania
    67. Mauritius
    68. Mongolia
    69. Morocco
    70. Mozambique
    71. Myanmar
    72. Namibia
    73. Nepal
    74. Nicaragua
    75. Niger
    76. Nigeria
    77. North Korea
    78. Oman
    79. Pakistan
    80. Panama
    81. Papua New Guinea
    82. Peru
    83. Philippines
    84. Qatar
    85. Rwanda
    86. Saint Lucia
    87. Saint Kitts and Nevis
    88. Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
    89. São Tomé and Príncipe
    90. Saudi Arabia
    91. Senegal
    92. Seychelles
    93. Sierra Leone
    94. Singapore
    95. Somalia
    96. South Africa
    97. Sri Lanka
    98. Sudan
    99. Suriname
    100. Swaziland
    101. Syria
    102. Tanzania
    103. Thailand
    104. Timor Leste
    105. Togo
    106. Trinidad and Tobago
    107. Tunisia
    108. Turkmenistan
    109. Uganda
    110. United Arab Emirates
    111. Uzbekistan
    112. Vanuatu
    113. Venezuela
    114. Vietnam
    115. Yemen
    116. Zambia
    117. Zimbabwe
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    Re: Non-aligned nations slam Israeli attacks, U.S. policies

    Sounds like some of the worlds most opressive dictators and the worlds most human rights lacking people because of dictators were there.
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    Re: Non-aligned nations slam Israeli attacks, U.S. policies

    format_quote Originally Posted by sonz View Post
    why dont u read about the non-alignment movement before u post.
    I did... that article to be precise. Nowhere does it explain what, in the absence of the Cold War, the countries involved are supposed to be "non-aligned" to in 2006. The "power blocs" no longer exist. Although there are obviously many more countries, the only ones mentioned in your article were Cuba, North Korea, and Iran.

    The wiki article states

    The 2006 meeting in Havana has leaders discussing a strategy on dealing with the increasing influence of the United States on international affairs
    I rest my case.
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    Re: Non-aligned nations slam Israeli attacks, U.S. policies

    The non-aligned movement is continuing the tradition of Stalin.
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    Re: Non-aligned nations slam Israeli attacks, U.S. policies

    format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble View Post

    I rest my case.
    again read before u post

    The purpose of the organization as stated in the Havana Declaration of 1979 is to ensure "the national independence, sovereignty, territorial integrity and security of non-aligned countries" in their "struggle against imperialism, colonialism, neo-colonialism, apartheid, racism, including Zionism, and all forms of foreign aggression, occupation, domination, interference or hegemony as well as against great power and bloc politics".[1][2] They represent nearly two-thirds of the United Nations's members and comprise 55% of the world population.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Aligned_Movement

    this applies to us and israel
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    Re: Non-aligned nations slam Israeli attacks, U.S. policies

    format_quote Originally Posted by therebbe View Post
    The non-aligned movement is continuing the tradition of Stalin.
    and US and israel is continuing the tradition of the Nazis
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    Re: Non-aligned nations slam Israeli attacks, U.S. policies

    format_quote Originally Posted by sonz View Post
    and US and israel is continuing the tradition of the Nazis
    So then you agree:
    The non-aligned movement is continuing the tradition of Stalin.
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    Re: Non-aligned nations slam Israeli attacks, U.S. policies

    format_quote Originally Posted by sonz View Post
    again read before u post
    Again, I did. I can only suggest you follow your own advice.

    The purpose of the organization as stated in the Havana Declaration of 1979 is to ensure "the national independence, sovereignty, territorial integrity and security of non-aligned countries" in their "struggle against imperialism, colonialism, neo-colonialism, apartheid, racism, including Zionism, and all forms of foreign aggression, occupation, domination, interference or hegemony as well as against great power and bloc politics".[1][2] They represent nearly two-thirds of the United Nations's members and comprise 55% of the world population.
    I repeat, WHAT "great power and bloc politics"? It isn't 1979 any more. There are no "blocs" any more, and hence none that can be aligned, or indeed non-aligned, to. The rest is just a bolt-on. Maybe they should rename themselves?


    this applies to us and israel
    Well, we have already established that it is being applied to the US.. they have said so. The reference to "Zionism" could only have been included specifically to include Israel, so no surprises there, either. I would also point out it could apply to an awful lot of other people were it more politically convenient to do so, a fair number of whom are actually members of the organization!
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    Re: Non-aligned nations slam Israeli attacks, U.S. policies

    format_quote Originally Posted by sonz View Post
    and US and israel is continuing the tradition of the Nazis
    The tradition of the Nazi's were taking amounts of people and gasing them, and then burning them. Is the US and Israel doing this? Are you even one to talk, especially since I have family that were killed by the Nazi's.
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    Re: Non-aligned nations slam Israeli attacks, U.S. policies

    format_quote Originally Posted by therebbe View Post
    The tradition of the Nazi's were taking amounts of people and gasing them, and then burning them. Is the US and Israel doing this? Are you even one to talk, especially since I have family that were killed by the Nazi's.
    It doesnt matter whether you gas people or bomb them, your still committing acts of genocide and thats exactly what the USA and the "state of Israel" are doing. Which makes those who "continue the tradition of Stalin" look like peace-mongers I would say.
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    Re: Non-aligned nations slam Israeli attacks, U.S. policies

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hawa View Post
    Which makes those who "continue the tradition of Stalin" look like peace-mongers I would say.
    Stalin killed more people than Hitler did, like 2X more. But would I expect you to know anything about history... no.
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    NAM is just like OIC .... weak!!! They can speak whatever they want ... but do nothing....
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    Re: Non-aligned nations slam Israeli attacks, U.S. policies

    format_quote Originally Posted by therebbe View Post
    Stalin killed more people than Hitler did, like 2X more. But would I expect you to know anything about history... no.

    my statement was a sarcastic one..would I expect you to get that...guess not.
    i'll be generous and explain my comment to you, those who "continue the tradition of Stalin" (non-aligned states in this case) look like peace-mongers compared to the USA and Israel..
    ..still scratching your head?
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    Re: Non-aligned nations slam Israeli attacks, U.S. policies

    I would just be curious to know what genocide the U.S. is committing... If you really want to stop a genocide, perhaps you should be more interested in what is going on in Darfur.
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    Re: Non-aligned nations slam Israeli attacks, U.S. policies

    format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi View Post
    I would just be curious to know what genocide the U.S. is committing... If you really want to stop a genocide, perhaps you should be more interested in what is going on in Darfur.

    Mass killings constitutes Genocide, number of Iraqi civillians killed in the "war against terrorism" constitutes Genocide.


    This topic has nothing to do with Darfur, perhaps you would be so kind as to make one?
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    Re: Non-aligned nations slam Israeli attacks, U.S. policies

    format_quote Originally Posted by Hawa View Post
    Mass killings constitutes Genocide, number of Iraqi civillians killed in the "war against terrorism" constitutes Genocide.


    This topic has nothing to do with Darfur, perhaps you would be so kind as to make one?
    Then I suppose fellow Iraqis are also committing a "genocide" upon their own people, since they seem to be doing all the killing the past two years.
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