Turkey & E.U

format_quote Originally Posted by krypton6

I dont need knowledge to know that americans are not the kind of people who would risk their own asses in order to save others.
I assume all the people where you live are all nice. Like the people who kill in the name of god.
I dont hate america, I'm just telling you the truth.
The truth is that you ignore much of the truth to support and justify your hate.
How many Americans do you know? What kind of statically average does that give you?
The aids that america give are nothing compared to what they own the world after having caused so much harm through out history. At the time you've saved a life you've already taken 10 others.
Tell that to the Jews.

But then you probably hate Jew too.

format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum

But then you probably hate Jew too.

why do baboons as yourself always bring jews up? whenever theres an argument u robots start bringing a jew up.....just like stupid neocons, whenever theres a debate they bring up the holocaust, bla bla blaaaaaaaaaaaaa

how did turkey going into the EU bring up a jew????? plz tell me how????

is that some art form of evading an argument so you try to paint ppl as nazis or whatever????

everytime they bring the jewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww..........so pathetic u know.......jews aint nothing special, yeah u heard me say that, oh nooooooooooooo im a nazi now right?

even if the guy doesnt like jews, SO WHAT? does that make a person bad? many ppl dont like others of different cultures, ur american, i know many americans who hate muzlims and AArabs......

so i repeat SO WHAT if he dont like jews???? is he a nazi now you braindead buffoon?

format_quote Originally Posted by The_Prince

why do baboons as yourself always bring jews up? whenever theres an argument u robots start bringing a jew up.....just like stupid neocons, whenever theres a debate they bring up the holocaust, bla bla blaaaaaaaaaaaaa

how did turkey going into the EU bring up a jew????? plz tell me how????

is that some art form of evading an argument so you try to paint ppl as nazis or whatever????

everytime they bring the jewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww..........so pathetic u know.......jews aint nothing special, yeah u heard me say that, oh nooooooooooooo im a nazi now right?

even if the guy doesnt like jews, SO WHAT? does that make a person bad? many ppl dont like others of different cultures, ur american, i know many americans who hate muzlims and AArabs......

so i repeat SO WHAT if he dont like jews???? is he a nazi now you braindead buffoon?

Sami Zaatari it is always good when you join in.
As I remember you hate Jews, Americans and Christians. Is there any other groups you hate?

format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum

Sami Zaatari it is always good when you join in.
As I remember you hate Jews, Americans and Christians. Is there any other groups you hate?

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ur funny..

i hate christians??? hehe wow then i guess my best friend must be a fake Christian in disguise!!!!!!!!!! maybe he is mossad????????????????

ill admit i dont like jews......i aint shy to say that neither.........as for americans, i dont hate americans, woodrow is american, i sure dont hate him...........

i guess i hate myself too then since im partially american as well

Sami,
Well IMHO this is a good representation of you.

format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum

Sami,
Well IMHO this is a good representation of you.

lol yes it does, because i am actually a shy person and quiet etc etc, but when it comes down to the truth and exposing ppl i am like a wolf............

I assume all the people where you live are all nice. Like the people who kill in the name of god.
Who are we talking about? I have never heard of any muslims killing in the name of god!
How many Americans do you know? What kind of statically average does that give you?
I've never heard of americans being against the war in Iraq due to the torturing that the soldiers are putting the iraqis through, I have never heard of americans fealing with the palestinians, and supporting the palestinians and their freedom fighting, I have never heard of americans who are against the israeli terrorists, and I have never heard of americans putting themselves in the shoes of the muslims and asking themselves; What would I have done?

You are a greate example of the american image that I have in my mind, the same image that the "terrorists" have in their mind. The diffrence between me and them is the fact that they have already created their conclusion, but I havent, I'm hoping that some good americans do exist.

Tell that to the Jews.

But then you probably hate Jew too.
Why the hell should I hate jews?

format_quote Originally Posted by The_Prince

lol yes it does, because i am actually a shy person and quiet etc etc, but when it comes down to the truth and exposing ppl i am like a wolf............

format_quote Originally Posted by krypton6

I assume all the people where you live are all nice. Like the people who kill in the name of god.
Who are we talking about? I have never heard of any muslims killing in the name of god!
Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.
How many Americans do you know? What kind of statically average does that give you?
I've never heard of americans being against the war in Iraq due to the torturing that the soldiers are putting the iraqis through, I have never heard of americans fealing with the palestinians, and supporting the palestinians and their freedom fighting, I have never heard of americans who are against the israeli terrorists,
Boy, there is a lot you never heard of. Do you live in a cave?
and I have never heard of americans putting themselves in the shoes of the muslims and asking themselves; What would I have done?
No, we don't usually put ourselves in the shoes of suicide bombers.
You are a greate example of the american image that I have in my mind, the same image that the "terrorists" have in their mind. The diffrence between me and them is the fact that they have already created their conclusion, but I havent, I'm hoping that some good americans do exist.
But coming to a conclusion about you is easy.
Tell that to the Jews.

But then you probably hate Jew too.
Why the hell should I hate jews?
It is usually typical of people like you.
People who make a habit of hate usually have most everything.

If you can't find something to justify your hate, you will just make something up.

format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum

You are wrong on so many levels that I wouldn't know where to start.
But as long as you your beliefs about others are based on bias, you are beyond help.

If I used you logic, I would have to conclude all Muslims are terrorists.

No I insist, please disprove me. Tell me the truth instead of only *****ing about what I say.

format_quote Originally Posted by yigiter187

we had to end the biggest power of world of that times,the ottomans...
but we founded a great one ,turkey....

You ended a grate just islamic empire with equal rights for all races. You replaced it with a republic where Kurds cannot say that they are Kurds, where they are being tortured and killed everyday, where you burned down their houses with them still inside. But forget the many massacres, you ended a islamic empire, ISLAMIC! Not to mention that being a muslim in america today is easier than being a muslim in Turkey.

format_quote Originally Posted by yigiter187

we torture no one...ı am a turk but a kurd bro has the same rights as me..they can be even minister...research the current ministers of turkey...you will realise that half of them are kurds...

You have slaughtered so many kurds and burned down so many villages. This is what keeps you from getting inside of EU, they know the massacres and they know everything about the injustice in Turkey.

A kurd has no right in turkey, he cannot speak his language, he cannot claim his lands, he cannot do anything unless he betrayes the kurds and start recognizing Turkey as the true owners. He cannot do anything unless he gives up on his kurdish history. Do you really need me to tell you about the torturing and murdering that you made the kurds go through?

In turkey kurds only have 60 minutes of kurdish airing a day, 5 times a week!
Turkey does not recognize kurds, instead they inprison those who refuse to recognize themselves as turks instead of kurds. Remember Leyla Zena?

More than 3000 kurdish villages have bin fully removed by the Turkey, 3000 villages that used to be the homes of nearly 400.000 kurds.

Do you remember what you called Nelson Mandela when he refused to recognize Ataturks peace award? When he refused to recognize Ataturk as a peace maker because of the Kurdish opression.

The turkish press called Nelson Mandela "An Ugly African and Terrorist Mandela".

Turks have slaughtered thousands of kurds, driven millions away from their homes but the worst thing is that they refuse to recognize the kurds as kurds.

Want me to continue?

format_quote Originally Posted by yigiter187

u have got an evidence that kurds have no right and they have been slaughterde by turks and they removed from their lands by turks?

The fact that kurds have no right in turkey is a fact! The genocides have bin confirmed form every far corner of the world, except by the ignorant turks. Learn your dam history! The kurds were not removed from their lands, they are still on their lands but turks do not recognize those lands as kurdish. Any kurd recognizing the lands as kurdish will be prisoned in turkey.

format_quote Originally Posted by yigiter187

there are many races in turkey,if turkey gives land each of them will there be a country called turkey...

No there arent many races in Turkey, and even if there were. Nearly half of turkey is kurdish, I dont care about turks losing "their" lands for those lands belong to the kurds and are kurdish. Turkey is a country based on stolen lands, I dont care about turks losing the lands that do not belong to them, I only care about the poor kurds who are fighting for their country.

format_quote Originally Posted by yigiter187

look at our ministers that govern turkey,and see yourslef how many of them are kurds and how many of them are turks..u know nothing about the issue..

All are betrayers! All of them are in fact kurds, but they do not recognize that they are kurds. They have given up on their long kurdish history and made themselves think that they are turks. Those kurds in the ministry are succesful kurds according to turks, and succesful kurds according turks are the betraying kurds who recognize themselves as turks instead of the kurds that they in fact are.

Again, remember Leyla Zena?

format_quote Originally Posted by yigiter187

pkk,wihich claims itself as the warriors of kurdistan,killed 30.000 kurds..they killed even babies,they wanted earth from babies...kurds pay no bill for electiricty for water but ı pay..u know this fact?

PKK has never killed 30.000 kurds.

Kurds in turkey pay as much as you pay yourself, so dont make it look like your the victim.

The PKK leader Ocalan, under many occasions asked Turkey for peace, but simply because he refused to recognize Kurdistan as Turkey, the Turkish army sent hundreds of thousands of soldiers after PKK.

format_quote Originally Posted by yigiter187

kurds produce nothing but consume everything we produce..despite this fact,they have same rights with me..each citizen of turkey has same rights..then what is the problem?

problem is thet usa wanted a seperated turkey so they provoke kurds to riot against turkey by using the means of pkk..but now usa realised that it was a wrong means..

Kurds work just as much as turks.

Kurds do not have the same right as turks. A kurd need to fully give up on his kurdish background and history, and recognize himself and his lands as a turk and turkish, before he can be treated equally or even properly. Those who do not recognize themselfs and their lands as turkish are treated as animals, and thsoe who fight against those treating them as animals are executed.