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    Beside the poll. I hope you brothers/sisters and Guest answer to this thread, especially turkish muslim.

    1. Do you guys think turkey should be accepted in the E.U?

    2. Reason for your answer?

    I might ask more question concerning this.
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    Re: Turkey & E.U

    Yes I do believe so. The main reason is that they wish to continue the tradition they have of keeping Islam out of politics. Islam is a religion there a not a means to get votes and implement laws of one faith on others.

    If Turkey wishes to keep there divide between religion and politics, the EU would be a great place for them because the Arab worlds growing hostility to any Arab goverment who does not impliment Islam into there political system.

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    I voted yes. My reason is not to see Turkey become Westernized but to at least see a Muslim presence in something that is going to eventualy affect most of the world's Muslims. With the USA economy loosing international pull, it is a short time before the E.U. becomes the dominate factor in the world's economy. It will happen with or without input from Muslims, but I feel it would be good to have even a small voice be heard.
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    Re: Turkey & E.U

    At the same time, would Turkey joining the EU effect Greece?

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    Re: Turkey & E.U

    I voted yes. I believe Turkey is old enough and stable enough to be an important part of any European Union. Not being European or Turkish, I'm not sure what criteria the E.U. uses to choose its membership, but it would seem to make sense that Turkey would be a part of it. As for the E.U becoming the dominant economic power in the world, that may be true to a certain extent, but I think those that believe the U.S. economy is loosing influence in the world might be getting a little ahead of themselves.

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    Re: Turkey & E.U

    I think those that believe the U.S. economy is loosing influence in the world might be getting a little ahead of themselves.
    The US dollar is still stable but as debt continues to rise will it remain that way?

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    Re: Turkey & E.U

    format_quote Originally Posted by ManchesterFolk View Post
    The US dollar is still stable but as debt continues to rise will it remain that way?
    The debt is obviously a problem, but relative to GDP it still isn't an impending "crisis". If the U.S. suddenly had a major economic downturn, then the debt issue would be more urgent. I hope whatever party is in control in 2008,that the issue of addressing the national debt will be seriously looked at.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi View Post
    The debt is obviously a problem, but relative to GDP it still isn't an impending "crisis". If the U.S. suddenly had a major economic downturn, then the debt issue would be more urgent. I hope whatever party is in control in 2008,that the issue of addressing the national debt will be seriously looked at.
    Our true financial stability is not the problem. What is the problem is how the world views our stability. Financialy the USA has been in worse shape on several occasions. Some examples are the years immediatly following the revolutionary war. Our civil war era, The early 1900's and the depression of the 1930s. We survived them. But, today the problem is going to be the world's view of if we can survive future financial down falls or would it be wiser to look to other areas for financial stability.
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    Re: Turkey & E.U

    I would vote No.

    Why? I think Turkey belongs to Asia so does Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia and Russia. (This is my personal view)

    But I'm not a Turk, thus I dont really understand what their opinion about this. Whatever they wanted to ... whether to join EU or not... it's up to them... and I'll respect their decision.
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    My vote is yes,it is crucial for Turkey to take a part in EU.At least to indicate there is muslim country presence in that such a good organization Yes Turkey belong to Asia but they also have Both Asia and Europe region,their culture also has a heavy diversity derived from various elements of the Ottoman, European, and the Islamic traditions.
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    don't care.Poor Turks,they won't be allowed into the EU even if they convert to Christianity.

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    Re: Turkey & E.U

    format_quote Originally Posted by Emir Aziz View Post
    don't care.Poor Turks,they won't be allowed into the EU even if they convert to Christianity.
    I dont think Europeans will ask the Turks to be Christians in order to be in EU. Furthermore France is not a Christian country yet one of EU's prominent member.
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    Re: Turkey & E.U

    I voted yes.

    format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian View Post
    I would vote No.

    Why? I think Turkey belongs to Asia so does Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia and Russia. (This is my personal view)
    Noted, but IMHO the geography isn't relevant. The EU is an economic and political organisation that only happens to have 'European' in the title because of the nations that started it... no reason it couldn't be changed at some point in the future to "European and Asian Union", or indeed anything else. As far as I'm concerned, anybody should be able to join if membership is mutually beneficial. I think that's the case with Turkey, now.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by north_malaysian View Post
    I dont think Europeans will ask the Turks to be Christians in order to be in EU. Furthermore France is not a Christian country yet one of EU's prominent member.
    They are/were supposed to be. All of the Kings going back to Charlemagne were appointed by the Pope. Although France has recently outlawed the mentioning of religion in the official census, France is still predominatly Roman Catholic.

    Although Islam is growing rapidly and most likely will be the dominent religion in France within a few years.
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    Salaam,

    Turkey should look east not west.

    they wnat to be accepted by other whom are agianst them but alienate those whom seek them.

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    Re: Turkey & E.U

    format_quote Originally Posted by Emir Aziz View Post
    don't care.Poor Turks,they won't be allowed into the EU even if they convert to Christianity.
    That statement is untrue when you actually take care to be informed on current events.

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    Re: Turkey & E.U

    I voted No

    What's their problem anyway ... i mean... is there a problem with being asian
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Zulkiflim View Post
    Turkey should look east not west.

    they wnat to be accepted by other whom are agianst them but alienate those whom seek them.
    The EU is not "against" them, quite the contrary. If it were it wouldn't be negotiating Turkish membership.

    And "look east" to who? As I said before, the EU is an economic organisation, not a geographically based social club. The nearest countries 'east' that fit the bill in terms of economics are India and China. Turkey borders the existing EU.

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    Re: Turkey & E.U

    When Malaysia obtained independence... the leaders made USA as an inspiration for Malaysia (just look at the similarities of Malaysian and American flags).

    When Tun Dr. Mahathir became Prime Minister, he introduced "Dasar Pandang Ke Timur" (Looking East Policy) which made Japan and Korea as inspirations toward and industrial Malaysia....

    Turks should be given options whether to be with EU, or to be an Asian country.

    It's upon them to decide....

    While the Europeans are postponing the Turkey's admission to EU with many excuses ... the Asians have no problem to accept Turkey.... we even have no problem to accept Russia.
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    Re: Turkey & E.U

    hows it gonna benefit turkey?
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