I would say soldiers like this are the rule and not the exception.
I will say that during the years I served that was the way the typical was. I know that training has not changed that much and if anything it has probably improved. I would say that young soldier is more in line of a typical soldier than the ones who make the newspapers.
I will say that during the years I served that was the way the typical was. I know that training has not changed that much and if anything it has probably improved. I would say that young soldier is more in line of a typical soldier than the ones who make the newspapers.
You was a soldier,which unit?I post this thread is to respond to some other thread which was merely to discredite and disgrace the US troops in Iraq,clearly its provide no beneficient to all forummers beside a bad temper.Any way 40's,50's60's troops behaved more polite than what we have today(Anywhere in the world).
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You was a soldier,which unit?I post this thread is to respond to some other thread which was merely to discredite and disgrace the US troops in Iraq,clearly its provide no beneficient to all forummers beside a bad temper.Any way 40's,50's60's troops behaved more polite than what we have today(Anywhere in the world).
USAF 1959-1967 Sky jocky for 4 years then severaly injured and rifted of flying status and commission. Got to stay in for 4 more years in an enlisted rank as a K-9 handler. served primarily in 8th, 2nd and 16th Air force. Most time was with the 380th Bomb Wing. Eventually had to take a medical discharge.
Personal ego makes me want to say that us GIs back then were more disciplined and better trained then the GIs of today. But, then I have met a number of GIs from todays era and I really don't see much difference. I do suspect they are now better trained and are more aware of proper conduct when in foreign lands, so I believe that the soccor player, is probably more like the majority of todays soldiers.
USAF 1959-1967 Sky jocky for 4 years then severaly injured and rifted of flying status and commission. Got to stay in for 4 more years in an enlisted rank as a K-9 handler. served primarily in 8th, 2nd and 16th Air force. Most time was with the 380th Bomb Wing. Eventually had to take a medical discharge.
Personal ego makes me want to say that us GIs back then were more disciplined and better trained then the GIs of today. But, then I have met a number of GIs from todays era and I really don't see much difference. I do suspect they are now better trained and are more aware of proper conduct when in foreign lands, so I believe that the soccor player, is probably more like the majority of todays soldiers.
Yep it is nice to see US troops being pleasent to the Iraqi people. I would like to think the majority of coalition forces are like that.
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You was a soldier,which unit?I post this thread is to respond to some other thread which was merely to discredite and disgrace the US troops in Iraq,clearly its provide no beneficient to all forummers beside a bad temper.Any way 40's,50's60's troops behaved more polite than what we have today(Anywhere in the world).
Their is not hiddem agenda in disgracing the troops themselve. It is what they are seen as invader's (rightly so), something to be opposed and resisted.
I am not question the googness of individual, but you do not run into a car of a man who is offering you candy.
i am sure the 5000 rape cases in the normandy landing alone were all one offs as well and most of the US soldiers involved didnt go raping french women they were supposed to be liberating?
siegfried1985: 'What's truly sad is that this sort of thing happens ALLLL the time, the news just does'nt show it. I know this because I played soccor with Iraqi kids every other day. And I know I'm not the only one.'
buckeyeyedave7: 'fortunately, things like this do happen all the time. the media doesnt care when we go out on civil affairs missions, school and hospital reconstruction, or just going from house to house getting to know the people in our villages.'
Happy things don't sell papers. I'm not saying newspapers and news reports should only show positive things, but there should be more of a balance. Just as Muslims get ticked off when a minority among them is given disproprortionate coverage, so too are American soldiers when an unprofessional minority among them is all over the news while the media ignores positive acts.
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i am sure the 5000 rape cases in the normandy landing alone were all one offs as well and most of the US soldiers involved didnt go raping french women they were supposed to be liberating?
What exactly does that have to do with the subject of this thread, with all due respect?
Their is not hiddem agenda in disgracing the troops themselve. It is what they are seen as invader's (rightly so), something to be opposed and resisted.
I am not question the googness of individual, but you do not run into a car of a man who is offering you candy.
I dont know what to say...im in dilemma
Have you check the other thread before you make this quote a US soldier tease Iraqis children with water that contained almost same situation - Kids and U.S Soldiers,it shows some opposite behaviour,unethical value compared to this one,and the reason i post this, is only to respond to the thread that ive mention above,its all about to be fair.
It is simple for me.Black is black,blue is blue not blue is sea,and the black is night.
but you do not run into a car of a man who is offering you candy
Why not if the candy are safe and harmless for me.
p/s-i dont want to mess up this thread by posting a material from a closed thread.
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siegfried1985: 'What's truly sad is that this sort of thing happens ALLLL the time, the news just does'nt show it. I know this because I played soccor with Iraqi kids every other day. And I know I'm not the only one.'
buckeyeyedave7: 'fortunately, things like this do happen all the time. the media doesnt care when we go out on civil affairs missions, school and hospital reconstruction, or just going from house to house getting to know the people in our villages.'
Happy things don't sell papers. I'm not saying newspapers and news reports should only show positive things, but there should be more of a balance. Just as Muslims get ticked off when a minority among them is given disproprortionate coverage, so too are American soldiers when an unprofessional minority among them is all over the news while the media ignores positive acts.
What exactly does that have to do with the subject of this thread, with all due respect?
i am saying dont swallow the cuddly wuddly propoganda, there is good and bad in all but over all i know what the US soldiers have done in their past to their 'allies' nevermind their enemies.
i am saying dont swallow the cuddly wuddly propoganda, there is good and bad in all but over all i know what the US soldiers have done in their past to their 'allies' nevermind their enemies.
The same kind of thing is said about Muslims by extreme right nuts.
I don't think anyone here is swallowing propaganda. If they were, they would deny that certain US troops ever do anything morally wrong or illegal. I'm just saying take the good (the video in the first post) with the bad (the video you mentioned above).
i dont much care if he is the nicest man in the world,
he is still part of an invading army who are occupying the muslim lands and so therefore i make du'a insha'allah he either accepts islam or is destroyed. he is the enemy of islam no matter how well he smiles or plays football.
i dont much care if he is the nicest man in the world,
he is still part of an invading army who are occupying the muslim lands and so therefore i make du'a insha'allah he either accepts islam or is destroyed. he is the enemy of islam no matter how well he smiles or plays football.
and you have just reinforced every negative stereotype about Muslims....congratulations once again.
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