Iran are a bunch of idiots, the UK has every right to bomb Iran.
Deploy troops in Iran...!
UK sailors captured at gunpoint
Fifteen British Navy personnel have been captured at gunpoint by Iranian forces, the Ministry of Defence says.
The men were seized at 1030 local time when they boarded a boat in the Gulf, off the coast of Iraq, which they suspected was smuggling cars.
The Royal Navy said it was doing everything it could to secure the release of its personnel, who are based on HMS Cornwall.
It added that the men had been carrying out a routine patrol in Iraqi waters.
The Ministry of Defence said: "The group boarding party had completed a successful inspection of a merchant ship when they and their two boats were surrounded and escorted by Iranian vessels into Iranian territorial waters.
"We are urgently pursuing this matter with the Iranian authorities at the highest level.
"The British government is demanding the immediate and safe return of our people and equipment."
It is understood the men being held are safe and well.
Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett has summoned the Iranian ambassador in London to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, in an attempt to get the men released as quickly as possible.
In a statement, leader of the Liberal Democrats, Sir Menzies Campbell, also called for their immediate release.
"Whatever the rights and wrongs of military action, British forces in Iraq are now there with the authority of a UN security council resolution... and the Iranian government should be left in no doubt of the serious implications of their action," he said.
The incident comes as British Army Colonel Justin Masherevski, who is based in Iraq, says most of the violence against UK forces in Basra is being engineered by Iranian elements.
Col Masherevski said Iran was providing "sophisticated weaponry" to insurgents and "Iranian agents" were paying local men to attack British troops.
In 2004, Iran detained eight British servicemen for three days after they allegedly strayed over the maritime border.
The UK claimed the men were "forcibly escorted" into Iranian territorial waters.
While they were being held, the men were paraded blindfold and made to apologise on Iranian TV before their release was agreed.
The BBC's diplomatic correspondent James Robbins said the difference this time, and a cause of concern, is that the present Iranian government under President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was much more hardline.
"The political climate is worse with Britain among those confronting Iran over its controversial nuclear programme," he added.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6484279.stm
Iran are a bunch of idiots, the UK has every right to bomb Iran.
what good will war do?format_quote Originally Posted by ManchesterFolk
hold your fish!format_quote Originally Posted by ManchesterFolk
we dont know why the iranians did this, perhaps they had a reason? come on im pretty sure they didnt mean it to be a provocation for war!
format_quote Originally Posted by ManchesterFolk
Well, go bomb them. I'm sure we can appreciate every little bit of peace UK can offer the world. Like what the US is doing right now in Iraq. I'd enjoy so much peace in Iraq that I'm packing my stuff right now to migrate there and live in the middle of the peaceful warzone!!
Last edited by Muslim Knight; 03-25-2007 at 01:17 AM.
Wat a nice generalisation, giv some thought to your post b4 u post it. I dont appreciate stupid remarks like that. Your user name suggests ur from the north? Why are u making the stereotype of northern people being dumb, true.format_quote Originally Posted by ManchesterFolk
Our preperation continued, with our efforts and the efforts of our brothers, for years and years. Through out that time we gathered, observed and waited until the moment to move arrived.
Iran is either holding the hostages to secure some kind of leverage against the international community or just made a bumbling error. Either way, the Iranian government needs to crawl back into reality and realize the limitations of their bite compared to their bark.
bet bush is happy - i hope this does not provide an extra excuse for him to attack iran.
seeing how they have been acting so hostile towards iran, i think Iran had a right to arrest those men
after all usa and uk and famous for their spies (ESCHLON)
humm intresting how these incidents r taking place now. Anyway iran must have good reason 4 this.
Our preperation continued, with our efforts and the efforts of our brothers, for years and years. Through out that time we gathered, observed and waited until the moment to move arrived.
Iran claims they were spies, just hope it doesn't turn out to be another war.
I can smell it. But prey 2 allah that it doesnt lead 2 war.
Our preperation continued, with our efforts and the efforts of our brothers, for years and years. Through out that time we gathered, observed and waited until the moment to move arrived.
well the war mongers are known by all
so i wouldnt be surprised if bush, blair and their minions start 1
they confessed to being in iranian waters, hence they were rightfully arrested. or do you westerners doubt the confessions? hmmmmmmm just last week you were bringing up khalid sheikh muhammads confession as proof that he did sep 11, well we use ur criteria now, these sailors also confessed to being in iranian waters.
and england go on and bomb iran, you think your so strong HA! you cant even beat iran through a proxy war against light armed shia millitias in lebanon or iraq lol imagine what they will do to you in a direct confrontation.
you bomb iran and iran will wipe the floor with your british bases in the gulf so go on, an arrogant enemy always falls, you think you can easily bomb iran and have no consequences lol it seems iraq didnt teach you a lesson, then again your country never seems to learn. even with all the tough talk, usa and uk will NEVER bomb iran, why? folks to fight a huge war which is what it will be against iran you actually have to be ready and in a position to do so, NEITHER usa or uk are in a position to bomb iran or make war with iran, both countries are held up in 2 different countries, and the nationals of those 2 countries will not accept another war.(although a few extremists like manchester folk will support)
another war will basically bankrupt america, and another war for uk would basically leave their army in tatters.
now not only doesnt the usa and uk have the means to make a war with iran, the consequences of making a war are too much that they wont do it. if iran is attacked, as iran said, they will bomb us interests world wide and that isnt a bluff, and the us doesnt want that. secondly if iran is bombed iran will attack every single us and uk base in the region which will completly break the western millitary presence in that region, and also its very easy to break american british moral, if they lose 100 soldiers in one day their moral will be broken and thats a fact, and both countries will literally lose up to a thousand soldiers in one week by simple iranian bombings of their bases.
thirdly ppl seem to forget iraq, iran has more power and influence in iraq than the US does! do you know half the politicians in the iraqi goverment are friends with the iranian goverment and were working with the iranians prior the invasion? a war with iran will make the iraqi iranian backed millitias also go on a rampage against american and uk personal in that country, basically attacking iran will not make the war limited within the iranian border, it will involve the ENTIRE REGION and the US and UK have no way in controling that, lol they cant even control anbar province in iraq. what will they do when they are bombed in bahrain, uae, qatar, and iraq all at once? not to mention fighting in iran as well!
fourthly if iran is attacked you can bet hezbollah will not stay quet and they will respond by attacking israel, and iran will also attack israel too, and then thats another front in this war and israel wont be able to fight both hezbollah and iran togethor they couldnt even fight hezbollah alone!
fifthly iran will be looking for israel to attack iran, why? well when israel reacts to iran attacking it it will esstentially mean that USA UK and ISRAEL all togethor are bombing a muslim country, and iran will know that this will play in their hands in terms of how the arab muslims will view it and this will gain iran the support of the entire mid-east and the US sure as heck doesnt want that.
fifthly with a war with iran the econamy and oil and patrol prices will literally sky rocket which will cripple the western econamy.
so therefore to all westerners who say yeahhhhhhhh bomb iran! i think you should start using your brains abit because iran isnt iraq, but go ahead and make war with iran, you will lose not iran, even your own thinkers have said the consequences of going to iran would be a complete disaster. but its up to you.
Anyone know an entity called N.A.T.O
BTW I am alway praying that world powers would one day see sense and stop attaking Muslims and go to the source of terror that is Hizb-al-shaitan both in lebanon and Iran
If I recall correctly you are Iranian. I don't want to hijack the thread, but could you recommend a good Iranian Newspaper that has editions in either Arabic or English?
sadly the English edition of Sobh-e Eghtesad that I find seems to be very much Americanised.
I'm sure you are adressing someone else since I'm pakistani
but anyhow do know this one Iran daily? http://www.iran-daily.com/1385/2806/html/
list of all iranian online papers
http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/iran.htm
Last edited by NoName55; 03-25-2007 at 04:59 AM. Reason: list of iranian papers
Why am I not surprised that Sami wants a war. That way he can issue more hate messages towards the West.format_quote Originally Posted by Sami Zaatariyou bomb iran and iran will wipe the floor with your british bases in the gulf so go on, an arrogant enemy always falls, you think you can easily bomb iran and have no consequences lol it seems iraq didnt teach you a lesson, then again your country never seems to learn. even with all the tough talk, usa and uk will NEVER bomb iran, why? folks to fight a huge war which is what it will be against iran you actually have to be ready and in a position to do so, NEITHER usa or uk are in a position to bomb iran or make war with iran, both countries are held up in 2 different countries, and the nationals of those 2 countries will not accept another war.(although a few extremists like manchester folk will support)
another war will basically bankrupt america, and another war for uk would basically leave their army in tatters.
now not only doesnt the usa and uk have the means to make a war with iran, the consequences of making a war are too much that they wont do it. if iran is attacked, as iran said, they will bomb us interests world wide and that isnt a bluff, and the us doesnt want that. secondly if iran is bombed iran will attack every single us and uk base in the region which will completly break the western millitary presence in that region, and also its very easy to break american british moral, if they lose 100 soldiers in one day their moral will be broken and thats a fact, and both countries will literally lose up to a thousand soldiers in one week by simple iranian bombings of their bases.
thirdly ppl seem to forget iraq, iran has more power and influence in iraq than the US does! do you know half the politicians in the iraqi goverment are friends with the iranian goverment and were working with the iranians prior the invasion? a war with iran will make the iraqi iranian backed millitias also go on a rampage against american and uk personal in that country, basically attacking iran will not make the war limited within the iranian border, it will involve the ENTIRE REGION and the US and UK have no way in controling that, lol they cant even control anbar province in iraq. what will they do when they are bombed in bahrain, uae, qatar, and iraq all at once? not to mention fighting in iran as well!
fourthly if iran is attacked you can bet hezbollah will not stay quet and they will respond by attacking israel, and iran will also attack israel too, and then thats another front in this war and israel wont be able to fight both hezbollah and iran togethor they couldnt even fight hezbollah alone!
fifthly iran will be looking for israel to attack iran, why? well when israel reacts to iran attacking it it will esstentially mean that USA UK and ISRAEL all togethor are bombing a muslim country, and iran will know that this will play in their hands in terms of how the arab muslims will view it and this will gain iran the support of the entire mid-east and the US sure as heck doesnt want that.
fifthly with a war with iran the econamy and oil and patrol prices will literally sky rocket which will cripple the western econamy.
so therefore to all westerners who say yeahhhhhhhh bomb iran! i think you should start using your brains abit because iran isnt iraq, but go ahead and make war with iran, you will lose not iran, even your own thinkers have said the consequences of going to iran would be a complete disaster. but its up to you.
Well this old Western War Munger would like to see a peaceful resolution.
format_quote Originally Posted by NoName55
but anyhow do know this one Iran daily? http://www.iran-daily.com/1385/2806/html/
list of iranian papers
http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/iran.htm
Sorry, I was late in hitting the post button I was trying to see if Brother Sami new of any that he would consider representative of the Iranian people..
I'm familiar with onlinenewspapers.com and for most countries I'm happy with the papers. But, sadly for the Iranian papers it seems that the only news that gets through is the society news with little mention of the Iranian view of world news.
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