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    Angry They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims (OP)


    Its not just these guys it happens all over the world...they will be called "seperatists" "freedom fighters" "rebels" but it seems the word "terrorists" is exclusively used for Muslims in the press...


    Eta 'renews commitment to peace'
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    Eta said it was "time to act responsibly"
    The Basque separatist group Eta has said it is ready to make new commitments to peace if Spanish authorities end "attacks" against it.

    In an interview in the Basque newspaper Gara, Eta said it stood by its ceasefire declaration of March 2006.

    Many Eta members have been arrested since it detonated a bomb in December.

    The government said on Saturday it would not comment on the interview, but added that Eta "only had to take one single step: renounce violence".

    Accusation

    Two people died in the blast in a car park in Madrid airport, the first such attack since the ceasefire came into effect.

    The bombing led the government to declare it was abandoning the peace process and that there could be no dialogue with Eta while it was engaged in violence.

    In its five-page interview, Eta said it was committed to a real democratic solution to the Basque conflict and that it was "time to act responsibly".

    Eta accused Spain's ruling Socialist party and moderate Basque nationalist PNV party of blocking peace moves.
    The group is seeking an independent state in northern Spain and south-west France.

    Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6536637.stm
    Further Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETA

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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi View Post
    It is tempting to throw up our hands and watch them all kill each other. However, as Colin Powell said, you break it you fix it. While that looks like an impossible task at this point, in my opinion you have to ignore the cynics and simply let the U.S. military do their job. You would be surprised what they can accomplish when they are supported.
    I don't disagree, entirely. For a long time, I thought as you. But I came to the realization that there has been sectarian violence since there were two sects.
    Muslims have been killing each other for 1400 years. We can't stop it.
    As much as I agree that we have a huge responsibility, we can't make pigs fly.

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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi View Post
    I was referring to the support of the American people and their government.
    And the government plays the role in what is happening there, does it not?
    They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    *Without Allah, without Islam, life would be meaningless. If I've ever learned patience, it's because of this. Alhamdulillah...*

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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Jazzy View Post
    And the government plays the role in what is happening there, does it not?
    Muslims are killing each other because of there hate.

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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Jazzy View Post
    And the government plays the role in what is happening there, does it not?
    Yes, but the situation in Iraq is a burden carried by the U.S. military without much involvement of the American people whatsoever. Not comparing this to WWII, obviously, but the American people were willing to sacrifice alot for our servicemen and women, and that has changed for the worst in my opinion.
    They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    "Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is."

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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum View Post
    I don't disagree, entirely. For a long time, I thought as you. But I came to the realization that there has been sectarian violence since there were two sects.
    Muslims have been killing each other for 1400 years. We can't stop it.
    As much as I agree that we have a huge responsibility, we can't make pigs fly.
    You may be right. Don't think I'm a gung-ho supporter of this war, I just care about our military and the sacrifice they are making while the rest of America watches American Idol.
    They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    "Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is."

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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    We have 200000 troops in Iraq. if we were going around shooting at everything and each soldier fired one bullet a day, in 9 days all the population would be dead.

    Stupid isnt it? Some people just spam opinions based on total fantasy.
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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi View Post
    You may be right. Don't think I'm a gung-ho supporter of this war, I just care about our military and the sacrifice they are making while the rest of America watches American Idol.
    Never thought for one second that you were a "Gung-Ho" supporter. Me neither. There are few that are. It is a horrible thing and I don't have answers.

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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by barney View Post
    We have 200000 troops in Iraq. if we were going around shooting at everything and each soldier fired one bullet a day, in 9 days all the population would be dead.

    Stupid isnt it? Some people just spam opinions based on total fantasy.
    The R.O.E. has changed slightly in the past few months, but before that a soldier had to go through a fairly long check list before firing his weapon. Of course if he or she is fired upon they can return fire, but even that has been taken away from time to time. I remember when the U.S. military was engaging Al-Sadr's militia in Sadr-City a couple of years ago, and a buddy of mine that was there wrote back to his brother that they were told to retreat if fired upon in fear of creating a bloodbath situation.
    They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    "Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is."

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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    Heh, you think anyone with an agenda(whatever kind it is) would be that stupid? Hmm? Do you think someone with a goal would make it so obvious to the public eye? Dont ad companies decieve the population in makin somethin look good when its really bad? Does it not affect human lives when people lie in ads? This is bigger than just "ad companies", so what makes u think people are willing to be truthful in a situation like this when they hurt their own people internally?
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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Jazzy View Post
    Heh, u think anyone with an angenda would be that stupid? Hmm? Do you think someone with a goal would make it so obvious to the public eye? Dont ad companies decieve the population in makin somethin look good when its really bad? Does it not affect human lives when peope lie in ads? This is bigger than just "ad companies", so what makes u think people are willing to be truthful in a situation like this when they hurt their own people internally?
    I'm afraid I don't understand what you are referring to.
    They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    "Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is."

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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    In 2003 we had to Identify a weapon in hand. a RPG on the floor wasnt enough, that would require arrest.

    I know a lot of hope has gone in Iraq, but i remember the joy of the people after Saddams fall. The "Muslim Brothers" of these people have smashed their country and their lives.
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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    Oh excuse me, I was referring to Barneys post above mine.
    ANYWHO, I got class tomorrow. I'm off. Chill out everyone

    Peace
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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    u think anyone with an angenda would be that stupid?
    Every one has an agenda, what are you talking about?

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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by Jazzy View Post
    ANYWHO, I got class tomorrow. I'm off.
    Ahh! Clarity dawns!
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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    Ahh im afraid i didnt get that :X
    Anyway before i get a backlash of off topic posts.
    Take care yall.

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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    barney,
    good research, but i already know that most of the terrorist groups in the world are muslim.
    but my point was that you rarely find the word "terrorist" or "terrorism" in the media when describing terrorist acts done by non-muslim organizations.
    They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum View Post
    Every one has an agenda, what are you talking about?
    I was giving examples to his post.
    They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    *Without Allah, without Islam, life would be meaningless. If I've ever learned patience, it's because of this. Alhamdulillah...*

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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by snakelegs View Post
    barney,
    good research, but i already know that most of the terrorist groups in the world are muslim.
    but my point was that you rarely find the word "terrorist" or "terrorism" in the media when describing terrorist acts done by non-muslim organizations.

    Ahh I wouldnt say so over here. tamil tigers...Terrorist. IRA Terrorist..Eta hmm Seperatist...clearly terrorists though....KLA..Rebels.(muslims)

    The trouble is they (thankfully) dont do enough to get themselves spoken about. where as the Muslim ones go for the big publicity killings.

    I agree a teeny bit with you, but feel its marginal. the KLA shouted allah akbar as loud as Al Quada. we still bombed the snot out of their christian foes.

    Interestingly...this is all forgotten. Makes me think i totally wasted my time in Kosovo.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Hana_Aku View Post
    What are the Christians doing to stop the Lord's Resistance Army from over shadowing Christianity? Never heard of them? Maybe you need to ask why you've never heard of them. Then you need to look at what they are doing in the name of Christianity. Clean your own backyard first before asking any of us why we can't control individuals that choose to behave outside the teachings of Islam. By the way they ARE terrorists, but where is the outrage? Where is the crying for the innocents in Uganda. Oh right...no oil, no benefit, no use. Let them die, they're insignificant. Ahhhh, how proudly they serve Christianity.

    And you could have at least used an original quote. Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslim (which is the correct phrase). That one comment alone shows your own double standard, but when combined with the rest of your statement the ignorance is staggering. Remember this quote: "better for them to THINK you're a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

    It never fails to amaze me. As Aku says, no need to say more.

    Peace,
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    First of all, I did not call you a fool. It is written that if you say to your brother "thou fool" you are in danger of hell fire. Second of them all, that quote is not correct. That is why I didn't use it. It is not true that all terroist are Muslims. Terrorist come in all different religions and races even nonimal Christians. However, I know of no true Christian that is a terrorist. Do you know the same in your case? And what in the world is the Lord's resistance Army? I have no idea what you talking about.

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    Re: They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

    format_quote Originally Posted by barney View Post
    tamil tigers...Terrorist.
    Tamil Tigers are separatist terrorists who want an independent country called Tamil Eelam.
    They arent Terrorists, cos they aint Muslims

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