UK Muslims 'more loyal than most'

I would be interested in the age group used for this survey. Most survey data has shown that the older generations of Muslim immigrants have a far different worldview than the younger.

Seems pretty accurate to me. The nuts who would commit acts of violence and behave in an anti-social or intolerant manner truly are in the minority, partly due to the fact that Islam teaches Muslims to be good, polite, hardworking people.

format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin

Seems pretty accurate to me. The nuts who would commit acts of violence and behave in an anti-social or intolerant manner truly are in the minority.

I wasn't referring to terrorists, I'm talking about the general opinion of Muslims about the U.K. government and institutions. Obviously the terrorists are a small minority. I know younger generations tend to be more cynical than their parents and grandparents, and that goes for Muslims as well as non-Muslims. I'm sure the study is reasonably accurate, I was just interested in the age dynamic.

It also made me wonder about the perceptions of these surveys by Muslim Brits and non-Muslim Brits. I get the feeling that many non-Muslim Brits take these kind of surveys as an opinion on the state of the current government and administration, whereas the Muslims seem more likely to separate Tony Blair from the basic British political system and government institutions.

format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi

I wasn't referring to terrorists, I'm talking about the general opinion of Muslims about the U.K. government and institutions. Obviously the terrorists are a small minority. I know younger generations tend to be more cynical than their parents and grandparents, and that goes for Muslims as well as non-Muslims. I'm sure the study is reasonably accurate, I was just interested in the age dynamic.

Ah. Sorry, I misunderstood you.

Still, though the younger generation of both Muslims and non-Muslims may or may not be more cynical than their predecessors, it does not necessarily follow that they must be potential traitors.

It also made me wonder about the perceptions of these surveys by Muslim Brits and non-Muslim Brits. I get the feeling that many non-Muslim Brits take these kind of surveys as an opinion on the state of the current government and administration, whereas the Muslims seem more likely to separate Tony Blair from the basic British political system and government institutions.

Anyone, of any religion, I've talked to who critices the basic British political system and government instituitions subsequently mentions how they'd like to emigrate

However, with all the hullaboo surrounding the House of Lords lately, I think people will criticise how the fundamental institutions are being changed.

Usually though, criticism is levelled at Labour's foreign policy.

The price for spamming one of my threads is deletion, muhahahaha. But seriously, play nice, people. Going off on tangents in World Affairs threads has a tendency to lead to mudslinging.

I wonder what the results would be if a similar survey was taken in the United States? I have a feeling it would be similar. In fact, I think most surveys involving immigrant minorities would be similar in percentages. Native born Brits and Americans probably don't have a point of reference to compare their government and institutions to another, while immigrants have lived under different social and political systems.

Yep. Even the most caustic critics of 'The West' (TM) accept that even if those countries are so bad, they are still the lesser of two evils. None of us will ever be completely satisfied. That's life.

Seems fine. I do find the elders more tolerant than the young.

format_quote Originally Posted by AvarAllahNoor

Seems fine. I do find the elders more tolerant than the young.

I wonder what the cause of that might be? Are the young becoming even more "British", as many of them are native born, or is it a product of something else?

The young tend to be way too interested in politics and world affairs when they should be out kicking a ball around, quite frankly.

The elders are more like 'dudes, this country ain't bad. I've LIVED in bad.'

The young tend to be like 'but all our brothers and stuff are dying in these other countries! And we don't want to accept that all we can do is pray for them, we want to get really ticked off and say incriminating things, even though that won't help things either!'

Oy...

Then again, criticising anything and everything is part of being 'British', preferably with copious amounts of sarcasm.

format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin

The young tend to be way too interested in politics and world affairs when they should be out kicking a ball around, quite frankly.

The elders are more like 'dudes, this country ain't bad. I've LIVED in bad.'

The young tend to be like 'but all our brothers and stuff are dying in these other countries! And we don't want to accept that all we can do is pray for them, we want to get really BLEEPED off and say incriminating things, even though that won't help things either!'

Oy...

Then again, criticising anything and everything is part of being 'British', preferably with copious amounts of sarcasm.

Language Timothy.... 15% warning

Muezzin Edit: TIME PARADOX!

format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi

I wonder what the cause of that might be? Are the young becoming even more "British", as many of them are native born, or is it a product of something else?

Like Muezzin said, more to do with the plight of thosands worldwide. Though assisting them can take on many forms. Elders were just relieved to have been allowed to settle here and make a good life for them and their kids

Whoa...Muezzin edited someone else's post as well as his own...no man should have that much power in his hands.

Back on topic, sorry.