A gunman opened fire in a dormitory and classroom at a US university on Monday, killing at least 30 people.
The rampage at Virginia Tech University was the deadliest in US history, government officials said. The gunman was killed, bringing the death toll in Blacksburg, Virginia, to 31.
It is unclear if the gunman was shot by police or took his own life.
"Today the university was struck with a tragedy that we consider of monumental proportions," said Virginia Tech president Charles Steger. The university is shocked and indeed horrified."
The name of the gunman was not immediately released, and investigators offered no motive for the attack. It was not clear if the gunman was a student.
The shootings spread panic and confusion on campus, with witnesses reporting students jumping out classroom windows to escape the gunfire. Students and faculty members carried out some of the wounded themselves, without waiting for ambulances to arrive. Police with flak jackets and assault rifles swarmed the campus.
The bloodbath took place at opposite sides of the 2,600-acre campus, beginning at about 7.15am (1215 GMT) at West Ambler Johnston, a co-ed residence hall that houses 895 people, and continuing about two hours later at Norris Hall, an engineering building.
Police said they were still investigating the shooting at the dormitory when they got word of gunfire at the classroom building.
After the first shots were fired, students were warned to stay indoors and away from the windows. But some students said they thought the precautions had been lifted by the time the second burst of gunfire was heard, and some bitterly questioned why the gunman was able to strike a second time, two hours after the bloodshed began.
Some of the dead were students. One student was killed in a dorm and the others were killed in the classroom, Virginia Tech Police Chief W.R. Flinchum said.
Every person that posts on any board is a bigot.
Why not look up what the word means?
Columbine was a high school.
speak for your self pal, It kind of shows a person's character when they just jump on the immigration bandwagon when any incident involving a person of colour occurs, what difference does columbine being a high school make people still died or is it since they where white Americans you won't apply the same conclusion?
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist
speak for your self pal, It kind of shows a person's character when they just jump on the immigration bandwagon when any incident involving a person of colour occurs, what difference does columbine being a high school make people still died or is it since they where white Americans you won't apply the same conclusion?
I think I can understand what Chiteng is saying, and I dont believe it is bigotry. I agree with him in that the student visa program is a joke and should be revoked because of obvious security reasons. However in this case the guy has been living in the US since the early 90's, so you cant really blame it on that, but you can blame it on slack immigration laws. I dont think anyone should just be allowed to live in the US, I think that there should be a very strict and intrusive procedure before anyone is allowed into any country. This unfortunately, will never happen so it is pointless to even discuss.
As far as the comment above about the US high school drop outs, I laugh in your face about this as it truly shows your ignorance. (ABWAN) The majority of high school drop outs are minorities if you take the time to look, and also take a look at our great nation, there isnt another in the world, right now, that is as powerful as the US and since our countries economy, government and technological and medicinal advances are not controlled or run by foreigners (the majority at least) then I would say our school systems are doing something right. Also I would like to point out the absolutely enormous number of smaller businesses in the US that lead our people to be the richest in the world, why arent other countries like this, what must their education be like that they have to send their kids here for college. Lets see your country pull 300,000,000 through quality education and see how well they do, the odds are against you with a number like that. I know it is off subject but I felt the need to stand up for the youth in my country.
"War does not determine who is right - only who is left."
- Bertrand Russell
"He who fears being conquered is sure of defeat." - Napoleon Bonaparte
"There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the
enemy." - George Washington
What a senseless act of slaughter on people who had their whole lives ahead of them, how sad. May Allah bless those affected, Ameen.
"Were they created by nothing, or were they themselves the creators?
Or did they create the heavens and the earth?
Nay, they have no firm belief.”
[Holy Qur'an: 52:35-36]
That's rich since the Americas founding fathers were immigrants
blah blah blah and so are the founding fathers of every country, I am so sick of hearing that, it is a paradox within itself. find a new line would you
"War does not determine who is right - only who is left."
- Bertrand Russell
"He who fears being conquered is sure of defeat." - Napoleon Bonaparte
"There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the
enemy." - George Washington
blah blah blah and so are the founding fathers of every country, I am so sick of hearing that, it is a paradox within itself. find a new line would you
EXACTLY! but I aint the one who's got anti-immigration views am I?
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist
The fact that this guy was a psychopath is nothing to do with his nationality. All the other school shootings involved white Americans, what makes this guy so special? Get a grip people.
Our school was once visisted by a survivor of the Rwanda genocide. She said that before the genocide, her people were called cockroaches and other things like that. Then she told us about how worried she was about how immigrants are called cockroaches by many people today. Its these anti-immigrant thoughts that fascism feeds on.
EXACTLY! but I aint the one who's got anti-immigration views am I?
Things were a lot different when our founding fathers began working this land, people couldnt just fly in and out of the country at will. I think we know who founded this country and who makes this country run, and I think those people should have the right to decide who is allowed in and who is not. However this thread has nothing to do with this since the guy was a legal immigrant and he did not kill because of his ethnicity. He was a psychopath and he would have probably committed this disgusting act no matter where he was located and the event, to me, would have been just as tragic. I guess it hits a little harder at home when it is in your part of the country or really in your country at all.
"War does not determine who is right - only who is left."
- Bertrand Russell
"He who fears being conquered is sure of defeat." - Napoleon Bonaparte
"There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the
enemy." - George Washington
. However this thread has nothing to do with this since the guy was a legal immigrant and he did not kill because of his ethnicity. He was a psychopath and he would have probably committed this disgusting act no matter where he was located and the event, to me, would have been just as tragic. I
My point exactly, I didn't see why this issue was raised at all
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist
So I take it all the immigration stuff is now ceasing to be discussed.
I mean, surely, everyone will just discuss the topic at hand rather than turning it into an immigration debate, which really belongs in another thread. Because, I mean, if anyone was to continue talking about something that doesn't really have much to do with the story in the first post, I guess I'd have to delete those posts.
And nobody likes it when big ugly Muzzy deletes their posts, do they?
This was a really sad event subhanAllah. the school was very unprepared for this as well. on CNN there was a palestinian [reknown for his video taken on campus] that mentioned he left the middle east escaping gun fire and death, thinking VA would be safe, only to witness a shootout at his school. subhanAllah
Here's a little anti terrorism the US should do in their own backyard!
Wasn't terrorism. Apparently the guy had a problem with 'rich kids'. Who can blame him, but that's no excuse to go around shooting people.
But it wasn't terrorism as it wasn't politically motivated. The policing could have been better, to say the least.
Does anyone know how stringent gun laws are in the relevant state? I'm not saying ban them outright, as the right to bear arms is clearly ingrained into American culture because of the Constitution, but surely some redress is needed in the law?
Wasn't terrorism. Apparently the guy had a problem with 'rich kids'. Who can blame him, but that's no excuse to go around shooting people.
But it wasn't terrorism as it wasn't politically motivated. The policing could have been better, to say the least.
Does anyone know how stringent gun laws are in the relevant state? I'm not saying ban them outright, as the right to bear arms is clearly ingrained into American culture because of the Constitution, but surely some redress is needed in the law?
Unless one is convicted of a felony they can purchase a firearm. The waiting period doesn't really help if the person intends to use the firearm to kill people. School shootings are more shocking because they involve children in supposedly safe places, but overall gun violence in the U.S. has decreased.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is."
No, I don't think it'll help much. It's more about culture than gun ownership.
Besides, despite these tragic school shootings we should also keep in mind that the murder rate has more than halved in the US in the last 15 years or so. Thats despite the increase in the number of firearms in circulation.
i agree.
each man thinks of his own fleas as gazelles
question authority
At the University of Oklahoma, the campus was on lockdown for awhile because of a guy with an umbrella...just shows the kind of impact these incident have.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is."
The fact that this guy was a psychopath is nothing to do with his nationality. All the other school shootings involved white Americans, what makes this guy so special? Get a grip people.
Our school was once visisted by a survivor of the Rwanda genocide. She said that before the genocide, her people were called cockroaches and other things like that. Then she told us about how worried she was about how immigrants are called cockroaches by many people today. Its these anti-immigrant thoughts that fascism feeds on.
I like the name Fishman I wish I had thought of it. Jesus said, "Follow me and I will make you a fisher of men."
speak for your self pal, It kind of shows a person's character when they just jump on the immigration bandwagon when any incident involving a person of colour occurs, what difference does columbine being a high school make people still died or is it since they where white Americans you won't apply the same conclusion?
big·ot (bĭg'ət) Pronunciation Key
n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.
I am speaking for myself, and I think you can get first in line.
And it matters not at all to me what color someone is. If they dont belong
here, they DONT belong here.
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