Chechen children being tested with chemical weapons (OP)
The press-service of organization CKNS for protection of human rights, has received news that the mass poisoning of Chechen children at schools of Shelkovsko district is a result of chemical weapons usage by the Russian special services.
98 % of cases have been "unknown" illness, which has struck women and girls. The features of illness include asthma, dizziness, hysterics, extreme excited conditions, inflammation of mucous membranes of eyes, dryness in mouth, increased blood pressure, loss of consciousness. More than 100 persons were admitted in regional hospitals. Symptoms for all were identical.
Later when the patients were being admitted in hospitals in mass numbers, a number of commissions were set up to investigate the reasons of the disease but it was ineffective.
However the invaders and Chechen munafiqs have declared that the disease « is a result of stress, and a post-war syndrome ». However none of the commissions have answered to the following questions:
1. Why the stresses started within a day and only at schools?
2. Why the stress has not extended onto other inhabitants of the district in form of psychosis or chain reaction, and continues with those who fell ill earlier?
3. Why 98 % of the illness can be seen with girls and women?
4. Why this stress cannot be seen at schools of those areas where active operations with massive destructions took place and where victims number a lot?
The press-service CKNS informs that during one of these days the organization received from its sources that invaders' special services were acting on territories of occupied CRI. They also reported of additional data on mass poisoning of children from schools of Shelkovsko district, which resulted in a number of victims due to the monstrous experiment.
The source was at loss to tell, which chemical element has been used during carrying out of experiments with children, but does not doubt that the component is an additive to chlorine which disinfect school bathrooms.
The source also has informed that this special action has been carried out with participation of so-called "chemists" from the Russian special services which are based in territory of the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. The poison was not reflected in any way in boys, and influenced only girls.
"Children can be sent to school, but it is necessary to know, when the next experiments will occur "- an employee of special services added at the end of conversation.
But who knows when these experiments will occur again?
I have no idea what to make of the above, but, I am not going to sit here and validate your delusions of adequacy! We can get back to the original thread, or if it has reached the end of its value, then it should be a
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It took the US to finally do something definitive. That the situation there is not perfect only shows the difficulty of unraveling a genocidal war half way through. Where were the great Muslim Armies to save the Bosnian Muslims? There weren't any. It fell to the US.
there were already some, also foriegn mujahideen, but how can you resist an army which is backed by Russia????
and of course US leaves itself till the end, so it can come and say "he're coming the papa to save you" .
US government and UN are the same thing. there are different as much as the color of my hands.
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I have no idea what to make of the above, but, I am not going to sit here and validate your delusions of adequacy! We can get back to the original thread, or if it has reached the end of its value, then it should be a
yeah, it's like trying to argue with the wall, and telling it that you are painted in white.
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[QUOTE=Cognescenti;750316]The US wasn't at Srebenica. That is my point. That was a typically naive and weak UN mission. The Dutch troops just working under UN rules just handed over the Bosnian Muslims to be slaughtered by the Serbs.
It took the US to finally do something definitive. That the situation there is not perfect only shows the difficulty of unraveling a genocidal war half way through. Where were the great Muslim Armies to save the Bosnian Muslims? There weren't any. It fell to the US.
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They were dismantled, I thought that whole point was to have a secular Muslim empire?... well here it is in all its glory. and that is the outcome. Spare me the BS about U.S. or British beneficence. Just get out.. take your boys out before they lose their head and buzz off! Things would actually be a little less bad without further foreign meddling. You really need to get over the delusions that you are the good guys!
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the pictures of the dissapeard bodies are whitened from the sun, staying for years, where is US and UN on this?
ohhh, yes bc they don't profit anythng from finding the dissepeared bodies that were executed...
or maybe US army takes land of hectars from people, and kick them out to establish their base, one of the biggest bases in Balkan??? probably use them for transfering secret prisoners?? who knows.
or maybe a CIA secret angent becoming the president of a factory which has hugeee amount of minerals???
etc...
there is no "going to help", but there is "going to profit"
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You forgot that the recreation room at gitmo diddnt provide bouncy enough balls. (One of the complaints of a inmate).
Fact is the Geneva convention as it is applied, dosnt allow for its members to break it against non-signatorys. Which was what you posted.
Does the US break it? Undoubtably. Badly break it? Mayby.
Are the Gitmo incarcerates POW's? Well they certainly acted for a state, yet they wore no uniform, to help them hide away from a open battle.
What code of conduct does Sudan follow? Afganistan under the taliban? Iran?
Its farcical to use the Geneva Convention to beat your happiest target,(apparently the great big bad satan the USA), when a whole slew of muslim nations have no code of behaviour at all.
I recognise that you get confused by my posts. Its a sure sign of people not being able to argue effectively with what I write, and feeling uncomfortable with that.
Take some time out and study it some more.
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I served in Kosovo. Lots of KLA and Muslim civilians thanked us Brits for defending them.
I've never heard of a muslim from outside there since say a single word of thanks. It's too big a pill to swallow that we would kill christians to defend them.
As a British major said to the Mayor of Gorazde. " Imagine Liverpool was surrounded by muslims and being shelled. Would you help us ? Would you?"
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format_quote Originally Posted by barney
You forgot that the recreation room at gitmo diddnt provide bouncy enough balls. (One of the complaints of a inmate).
Fact is the Geneva convention as it is applied, dosnt allow for its members to break it against non-signatorys. Which was what you posted.
Does the US break it? Undoubtably. Badly break it? Mayby.
Are the Gitmo incarcerates POW's? Well they certainly acted for a state, yet they wore no uniform, to help them hide away from a open battle.
What code of conduct does Sudan follow? Afganistan under the taliban? Iran?
Its farcical to use the Geneva Convention to beat your happiest target,(apparently the great big bad satan the USA), when a whole slew of muslim nations have no code of behaviour at all.
I recognise that you get confused by my posts. Its a sure sign of people not being able to argue effectively with what I write, and feeling uncomfortable with that.
Take some time out and study it some more.
lol... nothing quite like a self-aggrandizing fest.. perhaps you should take your posts else where, where they would be better understood, and agreed with. in the immortal words of Abraham Lincoln "He can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know."
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format_quote Originally Posted by barney
I served in Kosovo. Lots of KLA and Muslim civilians thanked us Brits for defending them.
I've never heard of a muslim from outside there since say a single word of thanks. It's too big a pill to swallow that we would kill christians to defend them.
As a British major said to the Mayor of Gorazde. " Imagine Liverpool was surrounded by muslims and being shelled. Would you help us ? Would you?"
very true, what you said, you still have case where they name their kids "tonyblair" which I laugh when I hear, but people at that time didn't know what was going on, but if you go now and ask a prominent architect who doesn't have enough money to pay electricity bills, he will tell you what this liberation meant to him, people thought that you were taking a occupator out, but you became occupator yourself.
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We have no troops there.
What a Muslim led government makes of its own country after we rescued it isnt our affair. Sort it out whithout blaming the people who saved you.
The EU gave billions to Kosovo for reconstruction. and they still messed it up.
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You know it would be easy to be appreciative to western nations if they went in to these lands with the right intentions. Looking at these incidents from an objective view point, we can see that that many private companies and individuals benefit greatly from war. In capitilsm war has become another money-making system and not a means for liberation, justice or independance. Clinton himself in his memoirs said that the thought of an islamic republic in the heart of Europe (Bosnia) was unthinkable.
As for the legitimacy of Kavkaz, say what you want. But at the end of the day the sources are very strong with first hand accounts of everyday life. Plus the Russains report their losses as well. And you can see that every week some form of battle takes place, when their is a loss amongst the Mujahideens they report it becuase they are happy for him. The individual that is killed in action is a martyr and will be amongst the people of the highest Jannah Inshallah.
Our preperation continued, with our efforts and the efforts of our brothers, for years and years. Through out that time we gathered, observed and waited until the moment to move arrived.
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I happen to come from a country, that is very familiar with the sort of S***, that your England did in the name of benevolence. You can sell your crap else where, HERE we are not buying. Not all people are as small-minded as you'd hope or have a grip on political history a la mode of fox news...
here is a book you can read for starters. Don't come and tell me what morals you uphold during wars, I know the atrocities first hand from the mouths of the soliders of port saiid. My grand father happened to have been one fighting against your folk during your occupation. Your thievery, your immorality, your lack of ethics isn't forgotten!
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format_quote Originally Posted by PurestAmbrosia
lol... nothing quite like a self-aggrandizing fest.. perhaps you should take your posts else where, where they would be better understood, and agreed with. in the immortal words of Abraham Lincoln "He can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know."
Still not able to answer? Never mind!
And mods , if you delete this, can you delete purests posts of personal attacks as well. Theyre not really moving the debate along.
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We have no troops there.
What a Muslim led government makes of its own country after we rescued it isnt our affair. Sort it out whithout blaming the people who saved you.
The EU gave billions to Kosovo for reconstruction. and they still messed it up.
what government are you talking about??? a puppet government of EU and US??? a government where the prime minister goes at night in his office and finds his resign-paper already made???? a government were voting to take off the president of the parlament bc he said "UNMIK has to go home now", where the voters to take him off are constantly recieving SMS-s from US ambassy to vote to take him off??? a government where the UN policemen that killed the 2 guys in the protests go home without being charged for crime? whereas the organizator of the protests is still in jail?? a government where UN puts big walls in the centre of the city, looking like it some kind of secret place??? a government where we are told what to do with our cities and who should control them? a muslim government where they don't give permission to build a mosque? even to restaurate the oldest mosque which the wall paint is falling down at the head where imam prays?? a government which puts on position anti-islamic people???? ......etc etc....
The EU gave billions to Kosovo for reconstruction. and they still messed it up.
gave billions and recieved trillions, the mobile company is ripping off people in Kosova, and where with those money they pay their debts in monacco, they give billions and then you have the german caught on stealing 400,000 euros from the thermo central???? or soon getting minerals from the factory of trepca??? etc. etc..
you think, people think, they they invest, but they take more than what they invest. only ignorant and dumb people in my country and elsewhere would accept this BIG LIE.
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Lets get back to the main point about Chechnya. It clear as daylight that the Russian Guv is trying to make sure that this fierce nation doesnt get back to its feet. But will they wipe out a whole nation? Proberbly not, as long as they have people like Kadyrov in power. But this man will not last long in power.
Our preperation continued, with our efforts and the efforts of our brothers, for years and years. Through out that time we gathered, observed and waited until the moment to move arrived.
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Right:
Our current debate is, You are saying that the geneva convetion dosnt apply to muslims.
You have no proof of that.
Read the Geneva Convention. It backs what I have stated about it.
I assume that your comment was just a rant about how muslims were oppressed. It's not based in any fact.
Copy and paste the Link that proves the Geneva Convention does not apply against Muslim nations.
Or alternatively just post some crud about my physical size. Because that shows what a great debater you are.
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Hey who cares about the Geneva convention......no country.
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which I laugh when I hear, but people at that time didn't know what was going on, but if you go now and ask a prominent architect who doesn't have enough money to pay electricity bills, he will tell you what this liberation meant to him, people thought that you were taking a occupator out, but you became occupator yourself.
Our preperation continued, with our efforts and the efforts of our brothers, for years and years. Through out that time we gathered, observed and waited until the moment to move arrived.
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