A fictitious account dedicated to my violated sisters in Kashmir. (OP)
A fictitious account dedicated to my violated sisters in Kashmir.
As she limped home, the nausea re-emerged and had her retching and vomiting. After a full five minutes, the dizziness receded and she was able to continue the long journey home. Some old men walked past; she pulled her burqah further down to cover her face. Despite years of her father's gentle admonitions, she had only recently abided by the Shari’ah injunction of veiling. She used to feel modest enough wearing the traditional transparent duppata over her head, but things were different now. Now she clung to her burqah as though it would offer protection from further violations.
She started gasping for breath; the memories were resurfacing after all these
weeks of self-imposed amnesia. Against her will she once again heard the raucous laughter and felt the searing pain. "Ya Allah, Ya Allah" she had cried. It was the first time she could recall ever praying to Him. "Allah?" they had mocked. "Which Allah? Your religion is a lie; there is no Allah. There is only us, and you, and we can do what we want to you."
As yet another Hindu soldier moved forward to take his turn, she had curled herself up in a protective ball, trying to make herself invisible. Never in her life had she felt such pain, not even when as a child, she had fallen whilst running and broken her ankle. Her mouth was wide open and the screams were deafeningly silent. She was blind to everything except her private terror. The thought of possible consequences had not occurred to her then. Perhaps had she envisaged then, what she suspected now, she would have lost her mind completely. Perhaps she was just ill from the stress, and was jumping to conclusions.
As twilight approached, she finally reached home. Ever since the incident, she had had one thought on her mind: home. She had felt that once there, things would somehow be all right again. Looking at the door with its hinges broken off, she blinked back the tears. It was a strong door and had protected them in the winter from the icy winds, but eight soldiers with heavy boots and a determination to enter had defeated it.
Would her family read the shame on her face? She had planned to pretend that they had merely beaten her. As she entered, she saw her father with his head bent, silently murmuring a du'a. He had not noticed her enter, but her sisters had. They screamed with fright and relief, and the old man jumped. As she unwillingly met his eyes, she broke down and fell into his lap.
For what seemed like an eternity, he cried with his daughter, his youngest child. He had immediately guessed what she had endured. For six weeks he had been ill with worry. He had envisaged her dead, and now here she was, broken and humiliated. The world stood up for animal rights, he thought angrily, yet his daughter was only a Muslim girl. The Indian army was free to violate her honour as they pleased in his absence, and the world looked the other way. He noticed how she was clinging to her burqah, but said nothing.
As the months went by, the whispered sympathies of the women at the well receded. She took little comfort in this fact: it would start up again, once her condition was apparent.
How vigorously it thrashed inside her! Sometimes it terrified her, despite its small size. At the back of her mind was the dread that it would resemble whichever soldier had fathered it. That thought did not surface to her conscious mind, but at night she had vivid nightmares about it. She would awaken, and seek refuge in Allah from them coming true.
For the first time in her life, she was praying regularly, and fully veiling. This veil that the West so despised made her feel protected and chaste. It helped her forget her shame when she rarely ventured outside. Fasting helped her attain a serenity that she had never before experienced. Without her eemaan, she would probably have had an abortion, or been one of the many unreported suicides that such cases result in.
Her father had taken her sisters to the market, so she was all alone the day the contractions started. How she wished her mother had not passed away so many years ago; she needed her so much at this moment. As the pains grew longer and closer together, her screams intensified. That horrific night, they had been silent screams, audible only in her mind. This time, she felt as though the entire Valley might hear her.
The child was somehow delivered, but she had only the vaguest of memories of that moment. She was verging on unconsciousness. Against her will, she drowsily looked at her son for the first time. She exhaled a sigh of relief, the first in nine long months. She saw no features to remind her of his violent conception.
Growing up, the boy witnessed the atrocities carried out against the villagers whenever the army passed through. His small fists would clench, and he would dread those nights when his mother, as if reliving the past, would begin to scream hysterically. He had long ago guessed what whispered conversations overheard at the well had confirmed. His eyes would burn with a desire for revenge, a yearning that he knew his mother understood - only too well.
The years passed, and now her father had also departed from this world. She often wept, as she recalled him playing with his grandson, whom he favoured, as if to make up for his lack of a father. He never pressurized her to give the child away, unlike so many others. “For the believer, there is benefit in every test from Allah”, he had always reminded her. She understood the wisdom behind those words now. Looking at her son, a young man now, she felt immensely proud. She could hold her head up now; she had raised him well. Every day she prayed for his Shahaadah. With each expedition he partook in, every soldier he killed, her pain was slowly diminished.
How amazing it was she thought, that this same young man - borne from the rape of a young Muslim girl – was now inflicting so much damage upon the very army that had fathered him.
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format_quote Originally Posted by Cognescenti
Ah, is that how it works?
Here is a forum sticky from the header:
There have been increasing numbers of complaints from certain Jewish members who feel victimised in this section. All forum participants are reminded that victimising entire groups of people based on their religion, ethnicity, nationality or otherwise has no place in Islam or the rest of civilised society for that matter. If you must disagree, please do so respectfully - do not resort to insults. Such juvenile and asinine behaviour will not be tolerated.
Members are also urged to report such posts.
Substitute "Hindu" for "Jew" and get back to us. Perhaps there could be some kind of warning like "Kuffar keep out/echo test in progress" on the title of the thread?
Yes, that is how it works sometimes. You seem to draw satisfaction out of simplistic conclusion, to the point where you even deny people their feelings of hurt of oppression.. everyone is free to express themselves as they please, and if you really don't like it --tough, not everyone conforms to your ideas, or has your experience, and like wise you haven't shared in theirs, what shapes our views of the world are impressions and experiences we've lived. how can you relate to a young raped Muslim woman? You can't, Even if you show empathy, which I haven't known one of you to do around here, you can't really know what it means or feels. ..
I know there is a thousand blog out there to echo your voice, and at those borders it won't be the voice of dissent! Just browsing through your previous posts, on this thread alone, with the whole "impressionable" young Muslim bit.. what is that sweeping generalization? by that token every teenaged American should be sex crazed and violent considering the amount of sex and violence on practically every show. Get a grip please!
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
Re: A fictitious account dedicated to my violated sisters in Kashmir.
format_quote Originally Posted by PurestAmbrosia
Yes, that is how it works sometimes. You seem to draw satisfaction out of simplistic conclusion, to the point where you even deny people their feelings of hurt of oppression.. everyone is free to express themselves as they please, and if you really don't like it --tough, not everyone conforms to your ideas, or has your experience, and like wise you haven't shared in theirs, what shapes our views of the world are impressions and experiences we've lived. how can you relate to a young raped Muslim woman? You can't, Even if you show empathy, which I haven't known one of you to do around here, you can't really know what it means or feels. ..
Good grief. You seem to have missed the point that Suomi borught up and I have repeated....the story is fictional. I am not here to apologize for the evil deeds of the Indian Army. I am sure there are many being terribly oppressed in Kashmir.
I know there is a thousand blog out there to echo your voice, and at those borders it won't be the voice of dissent! Just browsing through your previous posts, on this thread alone, with the whole "impressionable" young Muslim bit.. what is that sweeping generalization? by that token every teenaged American should be sex crazed and violent considering the amount of sex and violence on practically every show. Get a grip please!
I made no such generalization about Muslims. That is the point of the adjective "impressionable". It is to distinguish the "impressionable young Muslim" from the young Muslim who is not impressionable. Honestly, I think you are just looking for a fight.
I was having an adult, civilized, respectful conversation with Fi_Sabilillah about his post. If he wants to get rid of me, I am pretty sure he can do it.
Re: A fictitious account dedicated to my violated sisters in Kashmir.
Substitute "Hindu" for "Jew" and get back to us. Perhaps there could be some kind of warning like "Kuffar keep out/echo test in progress" on the title of the thread?
I make distinction between kafar and Jew For Jew is of the Ahl al-kitaab. universal Jew does not punish Muslims by by death for as little as eating beef nor does he say convert to Judaism or die.
Whereas your friend the swastika worshipping hindu (claims descent from some master race called Aryan) has no qualms in killing inferior castes and religion.
BTW before some know it all tries to lecture me about Palestine, Please desist for I am well aware.
Re: A fictitious account dedicated to my violated sisters in Kashmir.
format_quote Originally Posted by Cognescenti
Good grief. You seem to have missed the point that Suomi borught up and I have repeated....the story is fictional. I am not here to apologize for the evil deeds of the Indian Army. I am sure there are many being terribly oppressed in Kashmir.
I made no such generalization about Muslims. That is the point of the adjective "impressionable". It is to distinguish the "impressionable young Muslim" from the young Muslim who is not impressionable. Honestly, I think you are just looking for a fight.
I was having an adult, civilized, respectful conversation with Fi_Sabilillah about his post. If he wants to get rid of me, I am pretty sure he can do it.
A fictional story as a proto-type.. I notice it had a happy ending.. they don't always end up as such!
Impressionable young Muslims don't tend to spend their time jerking tears over a fictional story on some Internet blog. Perhaps you just have an over active imagination? ... Sometimes I feel you all engage in vain discourse just for the sake of it? Something could be as innocuous as a sterile fomite and you'll find away to tarnish it. Just learn to let things go sometimes.
You need not sensor everything so it would be suitable for viewing a la mode of FOX news. It just comes across as hypocritical. Learn to control the things that you can, and those you can't just learn to live with it, if you can't live with it, it is easy to enlist in bush's army..
Sometimes your views serve to echo paradoxical notions than those you wish to be conveyed in your readers... it is a law of physics if nothing else!
This is all I have to say on this subject.
peace!
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
Re: A fictitious account dedicated to my violated sisters in Kashmir.
I believe you have a skewed sense of justice...
unfortunately in the real world, justice isn't always served, we rather look for a poetic one. I don't recall the "factious story" stating non-other than the young man and I quote
was now inflicting so much damage upon the very army that had fathered him.
I don't see a random rampage of civilians, do you? I am not sure where an impressionable young Muslim is urged to go doing exactly what the Hindus are doing to young Muslim women do you? Maybe the scintillating scotoma are playing tricks on your eyes? It is so funny really.. sort of like invading people's countries and complaining about beheading and suicide bombing, it makes me laugh heartily... what were you expecting, dinner and a movie? tea at 5 perhaps?
I don't want to keep at it tit for tat with you... I despise this section and the hypocrites who frequent it.. so let's call it a day!
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
Re: A fictitious account dedicated to my violated sisters in Kashmir.
format_quote Originally Posted by Fi_Sabilillah
I think you don't understand, i'm using the logic of the media here. To show you how powerful they are in their propaganda.
Isn't it ironic that when a muslim woman wears the veil she is oppressed? But when a nun wears hers she's 'pious'? Or when a muslim man grows a beard he's an extremist, but when a jewish one does he's practising his religion? Or when a person does an attack [which goes against Islamic teachings] he is an islamic extremist, but when someone kills innocents (and it's part of their religion!) - they are just freedom fighters?
Do you now see the irony?
I dont see any irony, because no media outlet in their right mind uses that sort of logic. If anything we are constantly bombarded with information how its wrong to label someone based on their religion, gender, ethnicity, sexual preferences, how they dress and that actions of some should not be used to label a hole group.
The real irony I see in your post is that you treat the media the sameway you claim and complain them to be treating you, and what you identify with. You cover all of media outlets, under blanket statements and generalisations, undoubtedly there are racist and purely propaganda spreading media outlets, but same as with people, its pretty silly to make judgements based on some and claim, all media acts this way. Blaming the media is getting pretty old anyway.
But in all honesty, I dont even see how actions of any media justifies the following on these forums:
Add the information that the perpetrator is muslim, surge of complaints.
Add the information that the perpetrator is hindu, good story. (and okay because the people doing that cant think of a better label)
So far my perception in this thread is, that as long as its not my religion, its okay to label all people of a religion.
Re: A fictitious account dedicated to my violated sisters in Kashmir.
Greetings,
I do not claim to fully understand both sides of the picture here, but i think it would be good to focus on the few things:
- the story is a message of hope, not because of the ending. What seem lost here is the young womans' strength to bear a child born out of hate, and still manage to love him. The womans' father who embraced his daughter and his grandson although the child's father is unknown. The neighbours who did not condemn her - but "whispered symphaties". It is a message of hope and love and most importantly the Mercy of God - one may have to face very difficult tests but must never forget the Mercy of God and be grateful for the strength given by God in difficult times. It's also a message to persevere despite hardship and not lose faith and make hasty decisions for she had to constantly endure the nightmares and fear. Instead of lamenting her fate, she performed rituals to get closer to Allah and hoped that she would have the heart to love her child.
It's not a real story - but a story serves the purpose of highlighting certain issues and more importantly reminders such as to be patient and persevere.
As for labeling, as this is fictional, perhaps what could have been done is to say "the men from the opposing army" or anything like that. Those who know the suffering and understand the current situation in Kashmir will know who they are, and those who don't really understand will not be offended by what they think is a slur or offending remark to a person of another religious faith. If a real story is highlighted, then the religion can be stated with an explanation of how the unrest in Kashmir is actually about the muslim's right to religious freedom, or whatever the actual problem is. Hopefully, when more people understand, the world will wake up and help those who are oppressed. Who knows, maybe the soldiers' own countrymen will protest en masse to remind their soldiers to behave with the honor required of them.
(in my country not much is said - if at all about this. We know there is unrest but that's all. it's as if there is nothing going there )
as for the ending, all i can say is, the child grew up (in this story) hating the opposition. A child who can only understand his mothers' and villagers suffering (and hate, unfortunately) can only see that a change is needed, even if it means opposing the man who fathered him. It's actually frightening to think of the real "children of war" in Palestine and Kashmir who have only understood oppression and seen their homes and families destroyed. One can only hope and pray that God will give peace and serenity in their hearts and strength to defend with honour and not blind rage. Justice is a virtue, but not when coloured by emotions that are out of control. a muslim is oft reminded of the Mercy of God so tat he/she can stand for his rights and yet step carefully so that he/she does not end up among those who transgress and receive the wrath of God. May we remind ourselves of that when we see the world tearing apart.
forgive me if i've offended anyone. What is good comes from God, and what is bad comes from my own weakness.
Re: A fictitious account dedicated to my violated sisters in Kashmir.
format_quote Originally Posted by Suomipoika
I dont see any irony, because no media outlet in their right mind uses that sort of logic. If anything we are constantly bombarded with information how its wrong to label someone based on their religion, gender, ethnicity, sexual preferences, how they dress and that actions of some should not be used to label a hole group.
That's exactly what i've been saying the whole time.
The real irony I see in your post is that you treat the media the sameway you claim and complain them to be treating you, and what you identify with. You cover all of media outlets, under blanket statements and generalisations, undoubtedly there are racist and purely propaganda spreading media outlets, but same as with people, its pretty silly to make judgements based on some and claim, all media acts this way. Blaming the media is getting pretty old anyway.
I think you don't understand why i spoke like i did, i was showing the double standards of the media. Then i portrayed it the way they do, NOT to say that a whole group of people are evil - but to portray to you how the media is so powerful in portraying Islaam as something evil just because of the actions of a minority.
Do you understand what i'm trying to say now? I'm not saying ALL hindus are evil, infact you should know by our previous discussions that i've said that not all are. [I usually even tell people to look at the religious scripture, not the actual 'followers'.] I just wanted to make it clear to you that this is exactly what is happening within Kashmir, and how the people there also misquote Islaam (to portray it as evil) and use their religion to push people into harming innocents.
But in all honesty, I dont even see how actions of any media justifies the following on these forums:
Add the information that the perpetrator is muslim, surge of complaints.
Add the information that the perpetrator is hindu, good story. (and okay because the people doing that cant think of a better label)
So far my perception in this thread is, that as long as its not my religion, its okay to label all people of a religion.
I've explained this above, inshaa Allaah (God willing.)
Re: A fictitious account dedicated to my violated sisters in Kashmir.
format_quote Originally Posted by NoName55
I make distinction between kafar and Jew For Jew is of the Ahl al-kitaab. universal Jew does not punish Muslims by by death for as little as eating beef nor does he say convert to Judaism or die.
Whereas your friend the swastika worshipping hindu (claims descent from some master race called Aryan) has no qualms in killing inferior castes and religion.
BTW before some know it all tries to lecture me about Palestine, Please desist for I am well aware.
I don't suppose you are generalizing to some degree are you? "Swastika-worshiping Hindu"?
Do you want to talk about which ethnic group in the ME really did historically support the Nazis? :X
Re: A fictitious account dedicated to my violated sisters in Kashmir.
If you were not a [censored] who butts into any and everything, then I might tell you that swastika to hindu is as sacred as crucifix is to a Trinitarian Christian.
And no, I don't need any history lesson from a [censored] for I have an M.A in history.
I don't need to to be told by likes of you, as to which Palestinian or "Muslim state" had a relationship with hitler or Nazis 60+ years ago for I am concerned about reality of today.
[MOD Note] No fighting, namecalling, mudslinging etc please [ Last edited by Muezzin : at 03:56 PM.]
Last edited by NoName55; 06-06-2007 at 03:29 PM.
Reason: typo
Re: A fictitious account dedicated to my violated sisters in Kashmir.
I am not surprised this takes place in India and Pakistan. Because the scholar over there teach more love for the country then Islam. They use the same hadeeth which some scholars said is weak to justify there goal. There are many muslims in Indian army but they are too nationlist. This one muslim in Indian army who is HERO of indian muslims who they talk about everyday with respect did sucide attack on muslims. The reason for him doing this sucide attack was because hindus were saying muslims dont love this country as much and were attacking muslims so to please the extremist hindus this muslim blew himself up. Even worse in many parts of india and many scholars in india praise his actions. Besides that muslims are very divided in India its a must for everyone over there to follow one sect and hate all the other sects. If you claim to be just muslim you are looked down upon as something strange. That only half of muslims population in India the rest is in the secular reformist movement. A women who wears Hijab in India is looked down upon as something dirty a man who grows a beard is accused of not having any education thus he went to religion. Indian muslims are very backward kaffir following people. Not all Indian muslims are bad there are some good in them.
Re: A fictitious account dedicated to my violated sisters in Kashmir.
format_quote Originally Posted by NoName55
If you were not a [censored] who butts into any and everything, then I might tell you that swastika to hindu is as sacred as crucifix is to a Trinitarian Christian.
And no, I don't need any history lesson from a [censored] for I have an M.A in history.
I don't need to to be told by likes of you, as to which Palestinian or "Muslim state" had a relationship with hitler or Nazis 60+ years ago for I am concerned about reality of today.
[MOD Note] No fighting, namecalling, mudslinging etc please [ Last edited by Muezzin : at 03:56 PM.]
Sir;
I think we both know Nazi symbols were appropriated from previous cultures. That doesn't make Hindus Nazi-affiliates as you implied. While we are at it, I don't think the eugenecists of the Third Reich meant the "Indo-Aryans" when they were referring to the "master race"
As for demonization over the lower castes and intolerance of other religions, you are probably right about that. I am truly sorry for having briefly interfered with the Hindu-bashing party. I can see I am not welcome. TTFN
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format_quote Originally Posted by Cognescenti
Sir;
I think we both know Nazi symbols were appropriated from previous cultures. That doesn't make Hindus Nazi-affiliates as you implied. While we are at it, I don't think the eugenecists of the Third Reich meant the "Indo-Aryans" when they were referring to the "master race"
As for demonization over the lower castes and intolerance of other religions, you are probably right about that. I am truly sorry for having briefly interfered with the Hindu-bashing party. I can see I am not welcome. TTFN
The hindu extremist party BJP is like the KKK, they want every non-hindu dead, whether they be sikhs, muslims or christians
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format_quote Originally Posted by Islamicboy
Hindu extremist want to even kill hindus the lower caste thats why so many lower cast hindus become muslims or budhist
True, i was about to put that in my statement also but didn't. I have a news article of this one town of low caste hindus, where the whole town converted to another hindu modified religion where they are treated equally and better than hindus. And then there was also another town where the whole town turned Muslim hit being sick of being treated like trash and subhumans by hindus.
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