75 Taliban killed in Afghan clashes By NOOR KHAN, Associated Press Writer
Tue Jul 24, 6:36 AM ET
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan - Troops killed at least 75 militants in three separate battles in southern Afghanistan, while the Taliban extended the deadline for the lives of 23 South Korean hostages until Tuesday evening.
South Korea's president appealed for calm as the deadline neared. Afghan elders and clerics were trying to negotiate with militants holding the hostages in central Afghanistan.
In southern Helmand province, Afghan troops ambushed by militants called in airstrikes and fought back with small-arms and mortar fire, the U.S.-led coalition said. The coalition said at least 36 insurgents were killed in the fighting Monday, but no Afghan or coalition troops were hurt.
In Uruzgan province, police clashed for three days with militants blocking the road leading to Kandahar province, leaving 26 militants and two policemen dead, said Wali Jan, the Uruzgan deputy highway police chief. NATO-led and Afghan army troops joined the battle Tuesday, reopening the road for civilians traffic, he said.
Another 13 suspected militants were killed in Kandahar province, the Defense Ministry said.
The battles took place in remote and dangerous parts of Afghanistan, and the death tolls could not be independently confirmed.
Qari Yousef Ahmadi, who claims to speak for the Taliban, said the militants had extended the deadline on the fate of the kidnapped South Koreans another day after the Afghan government refused to release any of the 23 Taliban prisoners the insurgents want freed.
The militants have pushed back their ultimatum at least three times.
"If the government won't accept these conditions, then it's difficult for the Taliban to provide security for these hostages, to provide health facilities and food," Ahmadi told The Associated Press by satellite phone. "The Taliban won't have any option but to kill the hostages."
Though some of Ahmadi's statements turn out to be true, he has also made repeated false claims, calling into question the reliability of his information.
A five-member delegation from Ghazni province traveled to a remote area of Qarabagh district to try to secure the Koreans' freedom, said Khwaja Mohammad Sidiqi, the local police chief.
"Our negotiations are continuing," said Khial Mohammad Husseini, a lawmaker for Ghazni. "I hope that today we will get a good result."
The deputy interior minister, Abdul Khaliq said Afghanistan was not prepared to make a deal "against our national interest and our constitution," though he did not explicitly rule out freeing any prisoners.
South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun appealed for calm, saying at a Cabinet meeting "it's not a time to be hastily optimistic nor to be prematurely pessimistic about the outcome."
"It's important to resolve this in a calm and cool-headed attitude," he said. "The most important goal at this time is to get them back safely."
The South Korean Defense Ministry said it asked the Afghan military to refrain from conducting operations around the area where the hostages were believed held to avoid provoking the kidnappers.
The South Korean hostages, including 18 women, were kidnapped on Thursday while riding on a bus through Ghazni on the Kabul-Kandahar highway, Afghanistan's main thoroughfare.
More than 100 villagers in Ghazni demonstrated for their release Tuesday.
Violence has spiked sharply in Afghanistan the last two months. More than 3,500 people, mostly militants, have been killed in insurgency-related violence this year, according to an Associated Press tally of casualty figures provided by Western and Afghan officials.
In other violence, a roadside blast killed four U.S. soldiers in eastern Paktika province on Monday, said Gov. Mohammad Ekram Akhpelwak.
Norway said one if its soldiers was killed in Logar province, and NATO said a sixth soldier was killed in the south, though the soldier's nationality was not released.
The deaths bring to 114 the number of Western soldiers killed in Afghanistan this year, including 54 Americans, according to the AP count.
Also Tuesday, Afghanistan's last king was to be buried in a hilltop shrine in Kabul next to his late wife and other members of the royal family in a ceremony attended by foreign and Afghan dignitaries.
Mohammad Zahir Shah, who oversaw four decades of relative peace before a 1973 palace coup ousted him and war shattered his country, died Monday at 92.
Pakistan militant leader kills himself By ABDUL SATTAR, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 35 minutes ago
QUETTA, Pakistan - A former Guantanamo Bay inmate who led pro-Taliban militants in Pakistan after his release died Tuesday when he blew himself up with a grenade to avoid arrest, police said.
The death of Abdullah Mehsud is a boost for President Gen. Pervez Musharraf, who faces growing U.S. pressure to crack down on Islamic militants battling security forces on both sides of the Afghan border.
Intelligence agents cornered Mehsud overnight at the home of an Islamist politician in Zhob, police said. The town is 160 miles from the southwestern city of Quetta.
"My information is that Abdullah Mehsud killed himself," Zhob Police Chief Atta Mohammed told The Associated Press. "Thanks be to God that only he was blown up and our men were safe."
Federal Interior Ministry spokesman Javed Iqbal Cheema confirmed Mehsud's death, but provided no details.
U.S.-allied Afghan forces captured Mehsud, who earlier lost a leg fighting for the Taliban, in northern Afghanistan in December 2001. He was held at the prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and it remains unclear why he was released in March 2004.
He quickly took up arms again, leading militants in South Waziristan, a mountainous stronghold for both the Taliban and al-Qaida in Pakistan's lawless tribal belt. Mehsud was also wanted in the 2004 kidnapping of two Chinese engineers, one of whom died in a rescue raid by Pakistani commandos, and escaped a manhunt by the Pakistan army.
Zahid Hussain, an author and expert on Pakistan's militant groups, said the defiance of Mehsud, a rotund man in his early 30s, made him a hero among his fellow militants.
"Even if he wasn't seen, he was an inspiration," Hussain said. "In that way, (his death is) a big gain for the Pakistani forces."
There were new militant attacks Tuesday on Pakistani army posts in North Waziristan. Troops returned fire, an intelligence official said, but no casualties were reported. On Monday, at least 20 militants and two soldiers were killed in fighting.
Militants also detonated dynamite at a municipal office late Monday in Miran Shah, the regional capital, causing damage but no injuries, said the official, who is not allowed to speak on the record to reporters.
Farther north, the beheaded bodies of two soldiers abducted Monday night were found in the Bajur tribal area, said Sardar Yousaf, a local government official.
Violence has flared across Pakistan since a deadly military raid on a radical mosque in the capital of Islamabad earlier this month. More than 300 people have died, most of them security forces.
Much of the trouble has been in North Waziristan, a tribal region where a 10-month-old peace deal with between the government and militants has broken down and the army has redeployed troops backed by helicopters and artillery.
The government still hopes to resurrect the deal, although Washington has described it as a failure that gave breathing to al-Qaida to regroup — and perhaps plot another big attack on the United States.
Arab, Afghan and Central Asian militants suspected of links with al-Qaida as well as Taliban and local militants operate in North and South Waziristan.
A Pakistani intelligence official said Mehsud was intercepted on his way back from Afghanistan's Helmand province, where the official said he led supporters fighting alongside the Taliban against Afghan and U.S. forces.
The intelligence official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to talk to reporters, said Mehsud had been in Afghanistan for more than a year and there was no evidence that he organized the recent violence in Pakistan.
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Associated Press writers Bashirullah Khan in Miran Shah, Habibullah Khan in Khar and Sadaqat Jan in Islamabad contributed to this report.
You want to watch Al Jazeera the Taliban have Hospitals and schools in Helmand provence so wake up u have obvously been watching Sky news witch only has one point of view.
You want to watch Al Jazeera the Taliban have Hospitals and schools in Helmand provence so wake up u have obvously been watching Sky news witch only has one point of view.
Helmand U:
Teacher: What do you do when you find a man who is clean shaven?
Class: "KILL HIM!
Teacher: Excellent! I can see you have all been studying. Now. Here is a tough one. What do you do when you catch a thief?
Top Student: Cut off his right hand then take him to Helmond General to stop the bleeding!
You want to watch Al Jazeera the Taliban have Hospitals and schools in Helmand provence so wake up u have obvously been watching Sky news witch only has one point of view.
You want to watch Al Jazeera the Taliban have Hospitals and schools in Helmand provence so wake up u have obvously been watching Sky news witch only has one point of view.
It is funny you should mention that, it is true that the Taliban are known to have a large amount of influence and countrol in this small portion of the country, some reports indicate that they actually rule this region. What is even funnier is how many times I have seen people on this forum argue that the Taliban was attempting to abolish opium cultivation and distribution, yet this region of Afghan produces 20% or more of the WORLDS supply of opium. What is even funnier than all of that, is that this is one of the last major strongholds the Taliban has in Afghanistan, and more and more NATO, US and Afghani security forces are mounting up the pressure on these morons and I am sure that day by day you will see that they will begin to be killed at higher and higher rates. It is easy for the cowards to run up and down the mountains in this region, which is what has allowed them to make the claims that they have, but you can bet your bottom dollar that they will meet their end, they have been on the decline since they fled to the mountains. They are weak, and they do not control any significant portion of Afghanistan, the region that they control are in poverty, and again I will say their numbers are dwindling , and now with Pakistan helping even their "safe havens" are getting smaller in size.
I will have a very large party when victory is declared and troops are removed from Afghanistan, and you can even come if you would like!
:rock: <--- that is one freaky lookin smiley
"War does not determine who is right - only who is left."
- Bertrand Russell
"He who fears being conquered is sure of defeat." - Napoleon Bonaparte
"There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the
enemy." - George Washington
Fighters killed in Pakistan clashesAt least 12 fighters including foreigners have been killed in a raid by Pakistani gunship helicopters in a remote tribal area near the Afghan border, according to the Pakistan military.
Mortars were fired during Tuesday's attack at a hideout some 20km west of Miranshah, the main town in the North Waziristan tribal district.
"There are unconfirmed reports that six to eight Arabs, Tajiks and Chechens were among the militants killed in the operation," Major-General Waheed Arshad, a senior military spokesman, said on Wednesday.
Well you have just said that if Bush left Afghanistan the Taliban would defeat Kaizais puppet goverment and return to power and the good old days will come back.
However, I think this unexplained phenomenum of how the Earth explodes for no particular reason might best sum up the likelihood of Allah's response to an Islamic world.
yOU HAVE GOT TO RESPECT THE TALIBAN FOR THE FACT THAT AFTER NEARLY 6 YEARS OF FIGHTING THEY STILL CONTROL PARTS OF AFGHANISTAN.
I respect the fact that they fight respectfully the majority of the time, but I do not respect them or what they fight for. They are getting pushed out day by day and their little helmand region will also soon come under fire. I have no doubt that they are not afraid of death and they will fight to hold their position, but I also have no doubt that they will die doing so.
"War does not determine who is right - only who is left."
- Bertrand Russell
"He who fears being conquered is sure of defeat." - Napoleon Bonaparte
"There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the
enemy." - George Washington
I respect the fact that they fight respectfully the majority of the time, but I do not respect them or what they fight for. They are getting pushed out day by day and their little helmand region will also soon come under fire. I have no doubt that they are not afraid of death and they will fight to hold their position, but I also have no doubt that they will die doing so.
they can abandon the region and regroup somewhere else, i see nothing stopping them from doing that.
If they take the migration process slowly then im sure they can get the whole lot to safety,
for some reason i do not think the taliban will die out anytime soon, nor do i think they will die out easily...
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My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
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they can abandon the region and regroup somewhere else, i see nothing stopping them from doing that.
They can certainly try that and it may or may not work depending on what security forces are in and between the areas that they are trying to reach. In theory, it should be more difficult for them to transport themselves and rpg's and ak-47 if there are checkpoints in between point a and point b
format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
If they take the migration process slowly then im sure they can get the whole lot to safety,
I think it will be hard to take slowly since the security forces are advancing rather quickly on this region and are very well aware of its status
format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
for some reason i do not think the taliban will die out anytime soon, nor do i think they will die out easily...
I dont think that they will die out soon either, I am saying that I think that they will be defeated soon (within the next couple years), sure there might always be a Taliban group, but they are becoming less and less influential and less and less of a threat to the government and the country.
"War does not determine who is right - only who is left."
- Bertrand Russell
"He who fears being conquered is sure of defeat." - Napoleon Bonaparte
"There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the
enemy." - George Washington
Pakistan army says fighters killed
Pakistani army helicopters attacked four vehicles carrying people fleeing the bombing of a military convoy in northwestern Pakistan, killing at least 10 fighters, according to an army spokesman.
Major-General Waheed Arshad said on Thursday the operation took place in North Waziristan after the explosion near the convoy wounded five soldiers.
He said army helicopters chased the fighters - who were carrying rocket launchers and small arms - to a petrol station, where they parked after fleeing the scene of the bombing.
Between 10 and 12 fighters were killed in the retaliatory attack, he said.
Violence has escalated in the tribal region and fighters have launched attacks almost every day since renouncing a peace accord with the government in July.
(More) http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...AD986CE8B8.htm
For the Taliban they are fighting in their homeland,for the allied forces how many soldeirs can they send to die?
Knowing they cant win the war the US have no choice but to use more and more devatating weaponry,but with every bombing ,a show of force,,all they do incite hate and anger....and thus the Taliban swell.
Inshallah,the fight agaisnt the Taliban is against Peace,agasint Afghans good.
An expale,un der the Afghans the drug was eradicated,under the allied forces,they allowed it...
Yes but when you say the Taliban fight respectfully they dont most of the time by being suicide bombers and killing school children on there way to school that is not how TRUE Taliban fight.
For the Taliban they are fighting in their homeland,for the allied forces how many soldeirs can they send to die?
Knowing they cant win the war the US have no choice but to use more and more devatating weaponry,but with every bombing ,a show of force,,all they do incite hate and anger....and thus the Taliban swell.
Inshallah,the fight agaisnt the Taliban is against Peace,agasint Afghans good.
An expale,un der the Afghans the drug was eradicated,under the allied forces,they allowed it...
That must explain why the major opium growing areas are under the Teliban.
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