Shut Up, Christian Soldier

format_quote Originally Posted by guyabano

There’s something terribly wrong when an American soldier overseas can’t receive Scriptures in the mail, but a Muslim chaplain can preach freely among al Qaeda and Taliban enemy combatants at Guantanamo Bay.

This is a story of two soldiers, one Christian, one Muslim. It’s a cautionary tale that suggests how religious double standards and politically-driven hypersensitivity threaten not only our troops, but us all.

Five months ago, Jack Moody tried to send his son, Daniel, a CARE package containing a Bible study and other Christian religious materials. Daniel is a 21-year-old Army National Guardsman serving in the Middle East. He had written home requesting spiritual support while he risked his life abroad. The literature his dad packed included Christian comic books.

But when Daniel’s dad approached the post office in the family’s hometown of Lenoir, North Carolina, he was told he would not be allowed to send the items.

According to U.S.P.S. postal bulletin PB22097, section E2, Moody was forbidden from sending "any matter containing religious materials contrary to the Islamic faith or depicting seminude persons, pornographic or sexual items, or non-authorized political materials."

The postal clerk informed Moody that the Christian contents of the package might be considered offensive to some Muslims overseas. The policy was initiated during the first Gulf War.

“My son is in the military, and he's overseas fighting to free this country from tyranny, and to protect our rights and our freedoms, and here our government has a rule on the books that's limited his freedom. I just couldn't believe it,” Moody told the Voice of America news service.

Even more unbelievable was the apathetic reaction of Moody’s elected representatives. According to John Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute, a staunch defender of religious liberty, Sen. Elizabeth Dole’s staff brushed Moody off. So did Dan Gurley, GOP Congressman Cass Ballenger’s chief of staff. According to Moody, Ballenger refused to get involved, insisting that the matter should be left to the courts.

And there’s where Moody’s case—which is included in the devastating new book Persecution, best-selling author David Limbaugh’s searing indictment of anti-Christian intolerance—remains today. The Rutherford Institute filed suit against the U.S. Postmaster General in defense of Moody’s rights to freedom of speech, free exercise of religion, and equal protection under the law. The group’s motion for summary judgment is pending.

Whitehead explains:

“The First Amendment prohibits our government from establishing a religion by favoring one over another. By stating that no material can be mailed if it is contrary to the Islamic religion, the U.S. Post Office has clearly shown deference to Islam above all other religions—and this definitely violates our Constitution.”

Contrast Daniel Moody’s treatment with that of Capt. James Yee. The Muslim convert, who studied in terror-sponsoring Syria and attended an Islamic cultural center run by the terror-friendly Saudi government, was given free rein by the U.S. Army to administer to the souls of al Qaeda and Taliban enemies at Guantanamo Bay.

Yee brought the detainees prayer beads and religious books, facilitated prayer services, and assisted them with Muslim food preparation. And he received lavish, fawning profiles in the “diversity-” and “tolerance-” obsessed mainstream press.

Now he has been charged with sedition, aiding the enemy, spying, espionage and failure to obey a general order. Treason charges may be added. Yee exploited our bent-over-backwards solicitude towards Muslims in the military by allegedly using his access to smuggle out diagrams of the detainees’ cells and lists of the names of the detainees and their interrogators.

More than half of the armed forces’ Muslim chaplains were trained by a terror-linked, Saudi-subsidized institute while military leaders blindly sung the praises of multiculturalism.

Islamist Fifth Columnists are benefiting from the very guarantees of religious freedom being denied to devout Christian soldiers such as Daniel Moody who are risking their lives for the War on Terror overseas.

This dangerous deference to radical Islam—rooted in a cowardly fear of offending—is not only a threat to our soldiers’ constitutionally protected rights, but to our national security.

so far fo the tolerance...

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too bad too sad, if you dont like it you can leave Iraq and afghanistan, two countries you were never invited to go to in the the first place.

how funny these christians are, they are bombing these 2 muslim countries, illegaly invaded them, raping their women, torturing, blowing houses up and doing every other crime then they complain oh we cant get a bible inside! oh these bad muzlims! their double standards never seem to end, instead of worrying about getting a bible which has several parts of it banned in south africa and hong kong you should be more concerned about ending your illegal war against muslims.

if it was up to me all christian material would be banned from Islamic society's since i dont want your trash comming in here, hey that may sound offensive but no different to what that pastor said about Islam, i didnt see you christian folks complaining when your pastors and missionaries call Islam evil and several other insulting names. this is our country, our land, we dont want your soldiers, and we dont want your faith, you dont like that? again too bad, you dont rule the world, i repeat we dontttttttttt want your bibles and christian works in our countries. now you may object saying hey but we let yours in our countries, well i dont live in your countries and the vast majority of muslims dont neither, hence that would simply be futile plus your society is secular not christian right? so it wouldnt be a problem if we banned all christian material while you didnt since our society are partially Islamic while yours have nothing to do with christianity its all about secularism

secondly your US constituion which you quoted only applies to your country, not ours, so thats another straw man right there, lol you see folks didnt you get that part? these christians are now trying to force their americanizm on us! their trying to apply their own laws and rules abroad on muslim countries! again all your american rules ammendments constitution only apply to your own borders, so if you wanna mail christian material to a muslim country but that muslim country doesnt want none of your evil blasphemy then thats the way it is and thats the rule of law in the muslim country, hence your constitution means nothing in this case since you dont rule our countries with your rule of law.

and i agree with the title of the thread, indeed shut up you christian soldier! you whine about not being able to get your porn into the country while your killing civillians on a daily basis and occupying a country that doesnt even want you there!

christians will never learn....

actually i take back what i said, i wouldnt ban bibles here, since i know good arab christians who arent idiots and racists like the western ones, you would be amazed at how different they are then those fake christians in the west.

you know i find it really interesting, how do those missionaries expect to convert people when they have attacked their way of life so badly, calling it evil, satanic and insulting their prophet, seriously how can they later sit down in their homes with these people looking them eye to eye.

this really does tell you something more about these people's character and their mental state, which isnt too good. disgusting and having no honor is what comes to my mind when i think of it.

you christians should start sorting your missionary boys out before you wanna nag about your bibles not being able to be sent, start learning something called respect since its obvious you dont have any, ah yes Jesus loves us yes yes.......

format_quote Originally Posted by The_Prince

too bad too sad, if you dont like it you can leave Iraq and afghanistan, two countries you were never invited to go to in the the first place.

how funny these christians are, they are bombing these 2 muslim countries, illegaly invaded them, raping their women, torturing, blowing houses up and doing every other crime then they complain oh we cant get a bible inside! oh these bad muzlims! their double standards never seem to end, instead of worrying about getting a bible which has several parts of it banned in south africa and hong kong you should be more concerned about ending your illegal war against muslims.

if it was up to me all christian material would be banned from Islamic society's since i dont want your trash comming in here, hey that may sound offensive but no different to what that pastor said about Islam, i didnt see you christian folks complaining when your pastors and missionaries call Islam evil and several other insulting names. this is our country, our land, we dont want your soldiers, and we dont want your faith, you dont like that? again too bad, you dont rule the world, i repeat we dontttttttttt want your bibles and christian works in our countries. now you may object saying hey but we let yours in our countries, well i dont live in your countries and the vast majority of muslims dont neither, hence that would simply be futile plus your society is secular not christian right? so it wouldnt be a problem if we banned all christian material while you didnt since our society are partially Islamic while yours have nothing to do with christianity its all about secularism

secondly your US constituion which you quoted only applies to your country, not ours, so thats another straw man right there, lol you see folks didnt you get that part? these christians are now trying to force their americanizm on us! their trying to apply their own laws and rules abroad on muslim countries! again all your american rules ammendments constitution only apply to your own borders, so if you wanna mail christian material to a muslim country but that muslim country doesnt want none of your evil blasphemy then thats the way it is and thats the rule of law in the muslim country, hence your constitution means nothing in this case since you dont rule our countries with your rule of law.

and i agree with the title of the thread, indeed shut up you christian soldier! you whine about not being able to get your porn into the country while your killing civillians on a daily basis and occupying a country that doesnt even want you there!

christians will never learn....

My, my, my. The poster boy for Isalmic tolerance. Of course, let the Brits raise the issue of a chador in court or the French the hijab in a public school and the fit really hits the Shan.


Could someone explain to me again the benevolent garden spot of Quran-inspired tolerance and empathy that Christians and Jews are to expect when living in an Islamic state? Or perhaps one of the elders could explain it to some of the younger Muslim members of the forum. There seems to be a generational roadblock of some sort.

format_quote Originally Posted by The_Prince

you know i find it really interesting, how do those missionaries expect to convert people when they have attacked their way of life so badly, calling it evil, satanic and insulting their prophet, seriously how can they later sit down in their homes with these people looking them eye to eye.

this really does tell you something more about these people's character and their mental state, which isnt too good. disgusting and having no honor is what comes to my mind when i think of it.

you christians should start sorting your missionary boys out before you wanna nag about your bibles not being able to be sent, start learning something called respect since its obvious you dont have any, ah yes Jesus loves us yes yes.......

Dood....there is no United States Dept. of Missionaries. They don't ask permission. Do get back to us when they start hijacking airliners or sawing peoples heads off, won't you?

format_quote Originally Posted by Janaan

Man, the article in the OP is old. Is there anything more recent on this topic?

I can say for certain that there definately is something more recent about Br. James Yee. Hmm, all criminal charges dropped. Check out his book if you have a chance, it's a pretty easy read, very eye opening.

I have to admit, it does look like the guy was treated very shabily. I wonder how many other officers could be charged with adultery if they were scrutinized that thoroughly?

They turned an entire country into a living hell

Right :confused: Each and every service man enlisted so he could turn an entire country into a living hell.
All Americans are so Evil. :confused: :confused: