To the Mods: We need a thread where we can share n put the news from Pakistan. If u want us to create one for every news, then we shall. But I think it would be more convieneint to have just one.
To the Users on the forum: We shall try our best not to backbite or "discuss" matters in such ways. We shall use this thread solely to update news on Pakistan to others interested.
COming back to the news:
Razak Bughti , the governments speaker for Baluchistan has been shot dead in his car.
I heard this news on Geo and haven't found it covered on net yet. I shall put a source as soon as I find one.
Violence has escalated in tribal regions of the country
Pakistan's government is considering imposing emergency rule, the country's information minister has said.
Violence has escalated in tribal regions of the country
Pakistan's government is considering imposing emergency rule, the country's information minister has said.
I just saw a news report like two minutes before I read this in which the Pakistani government stated no state of emergency would be called for.
Thank goodness.
Then again, the country's 'President' already has his hands in the judiciary anyway it seems.
And before anyone goes crazy, I'm of Pakistani descent. It's just sad that the country is always being messed around with by someone. That's life I suppose.
Karachi, other coastal areas of Sindh receive heavy rainfall
KARACHI: Karachi and coastal areas of Sindh received heavy rainfall with thunderstorm on Thursday under the influence of a strong monsoon weather system at the Arabian Sea.
The Meteorological Department has said a strong monsoon weather system persists over India’s Gujarat and Arabian Sea, under which coastal areas of Sindh including Karachi are receiving rainfall with thunderstorm.
The rainy spell in Karachi will be continued for next 24 hours, chief meteorologist at met department Naeem Shah said.
Karachi was receiving light drizzle in the morning, which later turned into heavy downpour. The rainfall caused traffic jams at several busy roads of the metropolis. Power outages have been reported in various parts of the city.
Then again, the country's 'President' already has his hands in the judiciary anyway it seems.
And before anyone goes crazy, I'm of Pakistani descent. It's just sad that the country is always being messed around with by someone. That's life I suppose.
Are you Balochi, Pashto (Afghan), Punjab, or a different ethnic group in Pakistan?
You can't really say Pakistani descent, since Pakistan was nothing more than a federation of muslim states from the British Raj of India.
Americans should stop calling themselves American because it is no more than federation of ..... Britons are no Brits bacause .... Indians are not indian because it is .................................................. ....................
Ive got a link of google about whether or not musharraf will call a state of emergency or not..i no youve already written that he wont but this is just another story from a different perspective.
Americans should stop calling themselves American because it is no more than federation of ..... Britons are no Brits bacause .... Indians are not indian because it is .................................................. ....................
sheesh!!!
Germans, not brits. More Americans are of German descent.
And actually we can say American, because most of us do have some Native American ancestory and we do have a different culture and dialect of english from that of the Brits.
format_quote Originally Posted by AmarFaisal
I am sorry but it's an ugly question (very racist)
LMFAO! Racist you say? Honestly, where is racism being implied? I mean you are insisting that Pakistanis are an actual race of people rather than a divergent group of tribes and states that were formally apart of a British colony that was conquered and oppressed by the westerners for hundreds years.
and the thinking that is taking Pakistan to it's downfall.
Well don't you recall than Bangladesh was once a part of Pakistan (formally known as East Pakistan). Does that make Bangladesh still a part of Pakistan after being seperated or does that mean after being split form Pakistan you are no longer Pakistani.
I mean the Punjab people live in both India and Pakistan. THey consider themselves to be Punjabs rather than as Indians or Pakistanis.
The administrator of this website is a sunni muslim of the Balochi region of Pakistan that highly advocates the independence of Balochistan from Pakistan and Iran. So honestly, what were you thinking of when you said that statement?
Pakistan is much more than a federation of muslims state from british raj
Read the history of the region ....
I have someone from that region that told me all about it which is much incite than just reading. However, I have read a great amount of the history of Balochistan and Pakistan.
Honestly, there is no true union of the people outside of religious boundaries. Balochis and Pashtuns are Iranic. In fact Pashtuns are called Afghans in Afghanistan, which makes it more clear to united those two regions together. The other two region of Pakistan are sindh and punjab, which are Indo-Aryan and therefore share more close ties to India than they do to the Iranic regions of Balochistan and Afghanistan/Pashtunistan.
In fact the only reason why the country is together rather than falling apart is in fact due to its militaristic government.
Ive got a link of google about whether or not musharraf will call a state of emergency or not..i no youve already written that he wont but this is just another story from a different perspective.
I hope that wretched fox Benazir doesn't win the elections, although apparently she is poised to become the next prime minister since she and her party are the only popular alternative to the PML which failed miserably. I never understood why the people of Pakistan, specifically Punjab and Sindh, are so afraid of Jamaat-e-Islami and the other religious parties. The religious parties believe in social justice which is badly needed, plus they are against the deadly globalization and immorality which is taking the country by storm. Even president musharraf once said women should wear shorts (Astaghfirullah), this is how immoral and unenlightened our present government is. However, Benazir, like her father, is a populist and always goes with the tide. She is trying to appease America by saying she will eradicate the Taliban and shut down the so called religious extremism. Her father in the late seventies, when Islam was popular among the masses and the former generation craved for Nizam-e-Mustapha, promised to make Pakistan an Islamic state, but unfortunately only instituted some token reforms in that regard. The Bhuttos and PPP are shrewd rats, most people know it deep down.
i don't know that much about the ins and outs of pakistani politics, but i am thinking that maybe it is time for a new party, new people....? (rather than recycling past leaders).
each man thinks of his own fleas as gazelles
question authority
i don't know that much about the ins and outs of pakistani politics, but i am thinking that maybe it is time for a new party, new people....? (rather than recycling past leaders).
The PML and PPP are like the republican and democratic parties of Pakistan respectively. It will be as likely for a new party to take over as the Green Party winning the elections in America.
As for recycling past leaders like Benazir, she is like a queen in the Peoples Party, and they can never imagine forming a government without her as long as she is alive.
The PML and PPP are like the republican and democratic parties of Pakistan respectively. It will be as likely for a new party to take over as the Green Party winning the elections in America.
As for recycling past leaders like Benazir, she is like a queen in the Peoples Party, and they can never imagine forming a government without her as long as she is alive.
oh, well - it was a nice idea.
so are pakistanis essentially given a choice that is no choice - like in the u.s.?
(there is little difference between democrats and republicans and they both serve the same interests).
i think the supreme court could block her return by refusing to allow president musharraf to drop the corruption charges?
each man thinks of his own fleas as gazelles
question authority
oh, well - it was a nice idea.
so are pakistanis essentially given a choice that is no choice - like in the u.s.?
(there is little difference between democrats and republicans and they both serve the same interests).
i think the supreme court could block her return by refusing to allow president musharraf to drop the corruption charges?
The Punjab, which is the dominant province of Pakistan with a population of 80 million, basically has to choose between the two powerhouses, peoples party or some faction of the muslim league. Other provinces occassionally establish governments with alternative parties, but they are usually nominal and form a coalition with one of the major parties. Only NWFP at the present time is dominated by the pro-taliban religious alliance MMA, but NWFP has a small population compared to Punjab.
The only obstacle that was in the way of benazir returning was the military government of Musharraf, but the Supreme Court is actually one of bhutto's allies, in particular the chief justice who launched a mass movement which ended quite recently to restore full democracy and remove musharraf.
oh - i thought it was the corruption charges that would prevent her return.
lately she is saying that she will only work with him if he takes off the uniform.
each man thinks of his own fleas as gazelles
question authority
oh - i thought it was the corruption charges that would prevent her return.
lately she is saying that she will only work with him if he takes off the uniform.
The Supreme Court will be only to glad to throw out the case against her, especially with the president's approval. Musharraf's days are numbered, he can at the most postpone the election for a year, after a new government is elected he will resign the presidency, or remove his uniform, either way his power will be immediately diminished.
since independence day is coming up, i thought it might be appropriate to post the preamble to pakistan's constitution (1973)
in the name of Allah, the most
Beneficent, the most Merciful
*THE CONSTTITUTION OF THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF
PAKISTAN
Preamble
Whereas sovereignty over the entire universe belongs to Almighty Allah alone, and the authority to be exercised by the people of Pakistan within the limits prescribed by Him is a sacred trust,
And whereas it is the will of the people of Pakistan to establish an order-
Wherein the State shall exercise its powers and authority through the chosen representatives of the people;
Wherein the principles of democracy, freedom, equality, tolerance and social justice, as enunciated by Islam, shall be fully observed;
Wherein the Muslims shall be enabled to order their lives in the individual and collective spheres in accordance with the teachings and requirements of Islam as set out in the Holy Quran and Sunnah;
Wherein adequate provision shall be made for the minorities freely to profess and practise their religions and develop their cultures;
Wherein the territories now included in or in accession with Pakistan and such other territories as may hereafter be included in or accede to Pakistan shall form a Federation wherein the units will be autonomous with such boundaries and limitations on their powers and authority as may be prescribed;
Wherein shall be guaranteed fundamental rights, including equality of status, of opportunity and before law, social, economic and political justice, and freedom of thought, expression, belief, faith, worship and association, subject to law and public morality;
Wherein adequate provision shall be made to safeguard the legitimate interests of minorities and backward and depressed classes;
Wherein the independence of the judiciary shall be fully secured;
Wherein the integrity of the territories of the Federation, its independence and all its rights, including its sovereign rights on land, sea and air, shall be safeguarded;
So that the people of Pakistan may prosper and attain their rightful and honoured place amongst the nations of the World and make their full contribution towards international peace and progress and happiness of humanity:
Now, therefore, we, the people of Pakistan,
Conscious of our responsibility before Almighty Allah and men;
Cognisant of the sacrifices made by the people in the cause of Pakistan;
Faithful to the declaration made by the Founder of Pakistan, Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah, that Pakistan would be a democratic State based on Islamic Principles of social justice;
Dedicated to the preservation of democracy achieved by the unremitting struggle of the people against oppression and tyranny;
Inspired by the resolve to protect our national and political unity and solidarity by creating an egalitarian society through a new order;
Do hereby, through our representatives in the National Assembly, adopt, enact and give to ourselves, this Constitution.
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