A Jew defends the Taliban, by telling the Truth (OP)
[PIE]Following is an excerpt from a book by a Jewish American author, A.S. Adler, regarding his research into the Taliban and the media coverage they received. Unlike professional Zionist Islamophobes, such as Daniel Pipes, Adler deflates the media hysteria surrounding the 'evil Taliban' with cool, calm research. He even comes from a religiously Jewish perspective.
I think the decline of the Taliban is well explained by a Brother from another forum here:
[PIE]from what i understand, the original taliban had noble goals which they were trying to aim for ie to establish the law of Allah in afghanistan. and indeed in the beginning they had the help of Allah with them and had the support of the people.
however as time went by, and more people joined the taliban, not everyone was as sincere as the original organisers of the movement. according to the taliban themselves, only 10% of the original taliban are left. the others had been shaheed. this statement was made about 7 years ago.
as taliban conquered more and more land, more and more people from the conquered areas and armies grew their beards and tied the black turbans around their heads and proclaimed themselves to be taliban. these were the same people who seeked refuge in the communist and shia controlled lands of the north.
as these soldiers grew in numbers and power, they started slowly reverting back to their old ways but under the guise of the taliban. hence the reports of abuse and theft and unjust killing carried out by the taliban were actually being commited by those who only posed as taliban.
but people did not know the difference. they thought these acts were being carried out by the same people who were professing to be their saviours. that is why the people started to turn against the taliban.
this disease was most rampant in the northern areas of taliban controlled afghanistan. two parties had been formed with each of them vieing for control. kabul versus kandahar.
this problem was known to Ameerul mumineen, but as the war had escalated along 4 different fronts, it would have been suicide to tackle the new problem of the munafiqs. but it was also suicide to ignore the new problem as well.
while Mulla Umar was in kandahar, eating from the floor, wearing rags, the munafiqs in kabul were entertaining foreign government officials and forming alliances with them that were not sanctioned by kabul. these munafiq had become so strong that there was no way of tackling the problem without weakening the troops and supply lines for the mujahideen on the frontlines.
aaaaaannyyyyyway.......this explains why most of the so called taliban abandoned the jihad and defected to the kuffar when the american attacked. this is why there is only a small number of mujahideen who are waging a guerilla war from the mountains. inshallah victory will come, the same way victory came against the russians. that took 25 years. maybe this will take as long......... but Allah will test and Allah will give victory.
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Alhamdulillah they are gaining strength, they are on the truth and some people are too ignorant to know what the ummah is going through.Why would Allah give them such victory if they were " evil '?
They are our brothers fillah( for Allah) and we indeed shall support them not with our mouths but wallahi inshallah with our blood and bodies.
" Watch out we have come out for Allah's sake and have declared jihad."
Re: A Jew defends the Taliban, by telling the Truth
just aint far, i want to give people reps for some good points made in support of our mujahadeen bros and keeps saying i got to give reps to others first, why?
if a few people are making all the good points then let em get all the reps.
Re: A Jew defends the Taliban, by telling the Truth
format_quote Originally Posted by Dawud_uk
just aint far, i want to give people reps for some good points made in support of our mujahadeen bros and keeps saying i got to give reps to others first, why?
if a few people are making all the good points then let em get all the reps.
Re: A Jew defends the Taliban, by telling the Truth
You know what Wilber compared to what the Taliban have done.....the western Guv and Some Dictators in the Muslim lands have done far more. How many times are we going to bang on about it. The crimes of the west is ligitimised and shown as acts of heroism. You know what I am sick of seeing the CNN and Fox pump the same crap about the Taliban.....when you have US Soldiers committing rape in Iraq. You know that some of these sexualy frastrated males see Iraq as a place go and let off some steam. This mentality stems from Emperial times where western nations have been portrayed as the dominant "man". They used everything science, media etc. So dont talk to me about being noble and dont talk to me about double standards...........the American Guv and Western Guv dont have any standards.
Our preperation continued, with our efforts and the efforts of our brothers, for years and years. Through out that time we gathered, observed and waited until the moment to move arrived.
Re: A Jew defends the Taliban, by telling the Truth
format_quote Originally Posted by SATalha
You know what Wilber compared to what the Taliban have done Where did I compare?
.....the western Guv and Some Dictators in the Muslim lands have done far more. So does that make it OK?
How many times are we going to bang on about it. The crimes of the west is ligitimised and shown as acts of heroism. I guess that is why we put some on trial and put them in prison.
You know what I am sick of seeing the CNN and Fox pump the same crap about the Taliban Well they report the news. So don't blame CNN, blame the ones who commit the acts.
.....when you have US Soldiers committing rape in Iraq. You know that some of these sexualy frastrated males see Iraq as a place go and let off some steam. Different than Muslims, not all US Soldiers are perfict.
This mentality stems from Emperial times where western nations have been portrayed as the dominant "man". Just like Muslims use to do. Declair every neighbor country an enemy and invade them.
They used everything science, media etc. As do Muslims.
So dont talk to me about being noble and dont talk to me about double standards........... Again, will you point out where I did this?
the American Guv and Western Guv dont have any standards. Do you mean we don't do suicide operations?
But there is no double standard in what you say. You say all Muslims are good and all non-Muslims are bad. No double standards there.
Re: A Jew defends the Taliban, by telling the Truth
EVERYBODY READ THIS:
Taliban control half of Afghanistan
NOVEMBER 23,2007:
The Taliban has a permanent presence in most of Afghanistan and the country is in serious danger of falling into the group's hands, according to a report from an international think tank.
The Senlis Council claimed that the insurgents controlled "vast swathes of unchallenged territory" and were gaining "more and more political legitimacy in the minds of the Afghan people".
It said that the Nato force in the country needed to be doubled to 80,000 front-line soldiers who should be allowed to pursue militants into Pakistan.
The 110-page report said that its "exclusive" research found the Taliban controlled 54 per cent of Afghanistan.
It calculated that Nato countries should contribute 2.3 soldiers per £500 million of their GDP to provide 71,000 soldiers, with 9,000 additional troops coming from Muslim nations.
If the plan were adopted, Britain would need to send 4,500 troops, significantly fewer than are deployed now.
British and American military leaders say the mission in Afghanistan has been hamstrung by Nato members refusing to send reinforcements or placing "caveats" on their duties when there.
There is no sign, despite pressure from the US and Britain, of any move within Nato to send reinforcements to Afghanistan.
The report said: "It is a sad indictment of the current state of Afghanistan that the question now appears to be not if the Taliban will return to Kabul, but when this will happen and in what form.
The oft-stated aim of reaching the city in 2008 appears more viable than ever and it is incumbent upon the international community to implement a new strategic paradigm for Afghanistan before time runs out".
The puppet Ministry of Defence dismissed the report, saying its conclusion that the Taliban would take Kabul was not credible. "The Taliban does not pose a credible threat to the democratic Afghan government," a spokesman said.
The report coincides with a study from Oxfam for the House of Commons international development committee, which gives warning that the security situation in Afghanistan is deteriorating.
Oxfam said that Afghans faced "severe hardship comparable with sub-Saharan Africa" and that aid was not getting to the most needy.
Re: A Jew defends the Taliban, by telling the Truth
As-Salaamu 'Alaykum,
Reading through this post just really made me think of how gullible the people of our Ummah have become. We either take what the media of the West feeds us or what we want to believe. Have we visited the Taliban to see their state? Have we even met ONE of them? Have we set foot in the land that went through war for 20 years and then supposedly had the Law of Allaah imposed?
I see many faults in the speech of several posters in this thread and SubHana-Allaah, I think for your own good, it is better for you to remain silent rather than speaking ill of that which you do not know about. Why has it become so hard for us to refrain from that which we are ignorant about? Why do we have to claim to know everything?
SubHana-Allaah, perhaps you should refrain from studying wikipedia and go to the sources to find the truth.
(This post was made in general to all the posters and no one in particular. If I have offended any of you please forgive me but sometimes, when something hits home...I must voice myself in order to be heard.)
Jezaakuma-Allaahu Khayren.
Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuh
Re: A Jew defends the Taliban, by telling the Truth
format_quote Originally Posted by Umm_Qaylah
As-Salaamu 'Alaykum,
Reading through this post just really made me think of how gullible the people of our Ummah have become. We either take what the media of the West feeds us or what we want to believe. Have we visited the Taliban to see their state? Have we even met ONE of them? Have we set foot in the land that went through war for 20 years and then supposedly had the Law of Allaah imposed?
I see many faults in the speech of several posters in this thread and SubHana-Allaah, I think for your own good, it is better for you to remain silent rather than speaking ill of that which you do not know about. Why has it become so hard for us to refrain from that which we are ignorant about? Why do we have to claim to know everything?
SubHana-Allaah, perhaps you should refrain from studying wikipedia and go to the sources to find the truth.
(This post was made in general to all the posters and no one in particular. If I have offended any of you please forgive me but sometimes, when something hits home...I must voice myself in order to be heard.)
Jezaakuma-Allaahu Khayren.
Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuh
We either take what the media of the West feeds us? What about what the press that is from Muslim countries and ran by Muslims?
Or do you just reject everything that does not suite you? Have we visited the Taliban to see their state?
Have you visited the US? Do you think going someplace is better that seeing what the hundreds of professional reporters see?
Are you sure the mood is not made of green cheese? Why do we have to claim to know everything? There many things I do not know. But when every news source from every part of the world says the same thing, I feel comfortable that is is correct.
Re: A Jew defends the Taliban, by telling the Truth
Wilber this is For you
7. The Word is proved true against the greater part of them: for they do not believe.
8. We have put yokes round their necks right up to their chins, so that their heads are forced up (and they cannot see).
9. And We have put a bar in front of them and a bar behind them, and further, We have covered them up; so that they cannot see.
10. The same is it to them whether thou admonish them or thou do not admonish them: they will not believe.
Surah Yaseen
Our preperation continued, with our efforts and the efforts of our brothers, for years and years. Through out that time we gathered, observed and waited until the moment to move arrived.
Occupation: The term of control of a territory by foreign military forces: Iraq 2003-2005 Liberation:when something or someone is freed: Operation Telic 2003
Re: A Jew defends the Taliban, by telling the Truth
I am sure the sister who is actually from Afghanistan is going to be more impressed bu your 'genuine' photos over her day to day living in their midst... lol that is fresh ...
cheerio
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
Re: A Jew defends the Taliban, by telling the Truth
format_quote Originally Posted by al-muslimah
Its called "Matyrdom operations" not suicide operations or bombing.Sheesh.There is a big difference.Huge!!
How does blowing up a marketplace full of Kids make them Matyers?
Sure the ones out on the front line getting blasted by airstikes and killed by Coalition gunfire, they could be "Freedom Fighters" if they werent trying to overthrow the elected Afgani government or trying to get back to the happy slaughter days of the 1990's. But nahh, easier to blow schoolkids to bits.
Occupation: The term of control of a territory by foreign military forces: Iraq 2003-2005 Liberation:when something or someone is freed: Operation Telic 2003
Re: A Jew defends the Taliban, by telling the Truth
You weirdos visit the worng resources on news its all lies. I hate the media such twisters and liers.
Originally Posted by Umm_Qaylah
As-Salaamu 'Alaykum,
Reading through this post just really made me think of how gullible the people of our Ummah have become. We either take what the media of the West feeds us or what we want to believe. Have we visited the Taliban to see their state? Have we even met ONE of them? Have we set foot in the land that went through war for 20 years and then supposedly had the Law of Allaah imposed?
I see many faults in the speech of several posters in this thread and SubHana-Allaah, I think for your own good, it is better for you to remain silent rather than speaking ill of that which you do not know about. Why has it become so hard for us to refrain from that which we are ignorant about? Why do we have to claim to know everything?
SubHana-Allaah, perhaps you should refrain from studying wikipedia and go to the sources to find the truth.
(This post was made in general to all the posters and no one in particular. If I have offended any of you please forgive me but sometimes, when something hits home...I must voice myself in order to be heard.)
Jezaakuma-Allaahu Khayren.
Was-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuh
Re: A Jew defends the Taliban, by telling the Truth
BY BARNEY---
How does blowing up a marketplace full of Kids make them Matyers?
Sure the ones out on the front line getting blasted by airstikes and killed by Coalition gunfire, they could be "Freedom Fighters" if they werent trying to overthrow the elected Afgani government or trying to get back to the happy slaughter days of the 1990's. But nahh, easier to blow schoolkids to bits.
----MAYBE THE COALITION OF INVADERS DO THAT, BUT OUR MUJAHIDEEEN DON'T.AFGHANI GOV.PLEASE!!!!!!!!11
Someone said to the Prophet, "Pray to God against the idolaters and curse them." The Prophet replied, "I have been sent to show mercy and have not been sent to curse." (Muslim)
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