i wrote to nestle after hearing so much about the cochineal ingredient in pink and purple smarties. from the reply i got im now under the impression its not only the pink and purple ones that are haraam.
1713148B 31 May 2006
Dear Miss X
Thank you for your recent enquiry via email concerning Cochineal.
Cochineal, otherwise known as carmine, is probably the best known of all food
colours. The raw material for cochineal manufacture is obtained from insects
native to Mexico, but a number of extraction and purification processes have to
be gone through to make the preparation used for food colouring. Most of our
products have been on the market for many years and a number have become
household names. It has only been by careful attention to what customers want
that their position has been maintained. It is not without considerable thought
and extensive research that any changes are made to such a product.
Thank you once again for taking the trouble to contact us. I hope that this
reply answers your questions and that you will continue to enjoy our products in
the future.
Kind regards
Karen Short
Consumer Services
Nestle UK Ltd
Freephone 00800 637 853 85
"So after the truth, what else can there be, save error?" [Quran 10:32]
yeah so teso, morisson, asda, sansbury, raghu's corner shop.. whatever the place.. i would be rllyyyy appreciative if u could check some sweets and get back to us. i would check myself but im house-bound until tomrrow. my last exam u c.
"So after the truth, what else can there be, save error?" [Quran 10:32]
why don't we right up a petition or something because she did say that the changing of the product needed consideration?
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Argh how about if we all jus eat dates, cos i am told one sweet is haram i move onto another finally get used to it after a month or so then i am told thats haram and its an never ending cycle
Sadly most of the stuff that is being found to be haraam, was not haraam until the brilliant advertising people decide it needs a pretty image for it to sell. So then what could have been halal goes through a beautification process to make it beautiful and appealing. Candies are just the product this is most noted in. The dyes and artificial flavorings are not needed except for the greed of the corporate owners and the gullibility of the public. The name of the game is to make more money. to make more money sell more of your product. To sell more of your product make it look prettier then every body elses and then have a big advertising campaign to show how pretty it is.
i did abit of research and if you're looking out for carmine/cochineal and you see the number E129, Then that is the code for the food colouring "Allura Red AC" which is NOTTTT derived from cochineal/carmine. so im guessing if the company has used E129 food dye, then you are OK to eat it
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Allura Red AC
Allura Red AC, also called Allura Red, Food Red 17, C.I. 16035, and FD&C Red 40, is a red azo dye. It is used as a food dye and its E number is E129. It has the appearance of a dark red powder. It usually comes as a sodium salt, but can be also in the form of calcium and potassium salt. It is soluble in water. In water solution, its maximum absorbance lies at about 504 nm.
Allura Red AC is FDA approved for use in Cosmetics It is used in some tatoo inks. It is used in many products, eg. orange soda
Despite the popular misconception, Allura Red AC is not derived from the cochineal insect.
well i just looked on smarties and it does have E120 in it!!!
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List of SOME haraam FOOD ADDITIVES QUOTED AS PER THEIR EUROPEAN CODES
E120
E140 E141 E252 E422 E422e E430
AND E431 E440 E470 E471 E472a,b,c,d
E473 E474 E475 476 (E476 NOT SURE SO WE ABSTAIN FROM IT)
E477 E478 E482 E483 E491 E492 E494 542 570 572 631 635
THE LIST GOES ON!
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er not to sound ignorant or anything... but why exactly are you saying tis haram?? is it becuase eating insects is haram? (btw is it haram? ive never thought about this before or ever heard of it)
er not to sound ignorant or anything... but why exactly are you saying tis haram?? is it becuase eating insects is haram? (btw is it haram? ive never thought about this before or ever heard of it)
I just sometimes wonder where these people get their ideas from - I mean, who thought of using some insect for colouring sweets
Probably came about accidentaly. Most foods will contain some insect products. A few cochineal beetles mixed in would have produced the color. Probably took the candy makers a little detective work to discover what turned the candy red. Then they started using it.
Insects are actually eaten as food in much of the world. Grubs, Ants, grasshoppers and honey bees being the most common.
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