Question: Me and my wife go out to the market to buy necessary items for her or the house, and she comes out with me completely covered, and all praise is due to Allaah (alone), and she does not speak to any of the traders (shop owners and assistants). So is there any sin in her coming out (like this) or not? (Please) advise me.
Response: There is no harm in a woman going out to buy necessary items from the market if she has no-one who is able to do this on her behalf, so long as she is completely covered and remains away from mixing with the men and unnecessarily talking to them. And if she has a man from amongst her mahrams with her, then that is more complete and better.
However, if there is someone who can buy these necessary items on her behalf, then there is no need for her to go out for that which exists therein of fitnah and danger, especially in this day and age in which fitnah has increased and humility and mutual respect has decreased - except upon those whom Allaah has shown Mercy to. So it is obligatory for a woman to remain in her home as much as she is able to, as He (Subhaanahu wa Ta'aala) says:
{And stay in your houses, and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance…}, Soorah al-Ahzaab, Aayah 33
Shaykh Ibn Fowzaan
al-Muntaqaa min Fataawa Shaykh Saalih al-Fowzaan - Volume 3, Page 294, Fatwa No.430
In the Name of Allaah, the Most Merciful, the Bestower of Mercy. By the time! Verily mankind is at loss – except for those who believe and perform righteous deeds, and advise one another towards the truth and advise one another towards patience.’
My mother never goes shopping alone, even if it's during the day and at night, she only goes when my dad comes home. A teenaged woman was raped at a tourist hotspot in the city [she was alone] so there are some sick guys out there. Usually, my mother takes me with her [now that I'm not at uni as frequently as I was in school]. Even if I need to go to the toilets, my mum comes with me and waits outside. You never know what's going to happen [there was a girl who was murdered in the toilets as well while her father and her brother went to the men's. They waited for her, thought she may have already come out, searched around the shopping area finally her brother, around 10 I think, went in the toilet (one of those single ones) and found her] =(
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My mother never goes shopping alone, even if it's during the day and at night, she only goes when my dad comes home. A teenaged woman was raped at a tourist hotspot in the city [she was alone] so there are some sick guys out there. Usually, my mother takes me with her [now that I'm not at uni as frequently as I was in school]. Even if I need to go to the toilets, my mum comes with me and waits outside. You never know what's going to happen [there was a girl who was murdered in the toilets as well while her father and her brother went to the men's. They waited for her, thought she may have already come out, searched around the shopping area finally her brother, around 10 I think, went in the toilet (one of those single ones) and found her] =(
However, these situations aren't as likely to occur as the media would like you to believe. I know the probability of those sorts of things happening are low, so I am not paranoid about them-but I do watch out for myself.
^^ that's true.. but it's still shockign stuff... and i guess Islam's reasons for what was said wasn't based on the existence of them sorta undesired elements in society... because in Islamic society i don't think you'd have rapists or women murderers lurking around in toilets....
^^ that's true.. but it's still shockign stuff... and i guess Islam's reasons for what was said wasn't based on the existence of them sorta undesired elements in society... because in Islamic society i don't think you'd have rapists or women murderers lurking around in toilets....
Those sort of people would not be in any good society, not just an Islamic one.
However, these situations aren't as likely to occur as the media would like you to believe. I know the probability of those sorts of things happening are low, so I am not paranoid about them-but I do watch out for myself.
They may not occur as much as the media makes it out to be but you still have to be aware and safe considering the society we live in. Especially as a Hijabi, you are more vulnerable.
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They may not occur as much as the media makes it out to be but you still have to be aware and safe considering the society we live in. Especially as a Hijabi, you are more vulnerable.
Actually the most vulnerable women are those with a certain body proportion..I don't remember what it is, but I learned in a psych. class a study that had been done on rape victims & the majority of victims had this body proportion.
Actually the most vulnerable women are those with a certain body proportion..I don't remember what it is, but I learned in a psych. class a study that had been done on rape victims & the majority of victims had this body proportion.
I wasn't only specifically referring to rape, just to insults and discrimination in general especially after the September 11 attacks [and so on...]. But I do understand what you're trying to say there.
edit: Even with what some Muslimah's wear today, you can still tell what their body shape looks like....so it really doesn't make a difference for them
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So women should be locked up inside their homes UNLESS it's for something they need.....Never go to have a bit of leisure time [in limits] or something like that.....perhaps that's how it is in Saudi, but there is no harm if a woman covers herself and walks the streets with modesty to go somewhere nice......That should be suspected over??
All I can say is some people are shadeed to the point where there are no limits....
A woman is a human being for God's sake! Islam is the liberator of women...By keeping them locked up in their homes is no liberation.....And I KNOW islam is definately not unreasonable......
Glad you don't all think as some do!
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Kal Meh Bėḏ Atharbaṇ Hū Nā Kẖuḏā Alhu Bẖa.
In the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the Atharva Veda became prominent; Allah became the Name of God.
Personally, I prefer to grocery shop with my husband because I get bored when I go alone. However, clothes shopping or any other shopping I love to do without him because he hates to wait around while I look through all the stores and so forth. Also, I don't get the whole having to travel with a mahram. Often, I don't have the option, and my career will probably not allow such either.
However, clothes shopping or any other shopping I love to do without him because he hates to wait around while I look through all the stores and so forth
man thats sooo true!! men always ruin the any great clothe shopping experience!
Also, I don't get the whole having to travel with a mahram. Often, I don't have the option, and my career will probably not allow such either.
its only long distance anyway, and for your own protection. it was just on the news yesterday that a 19 year old girl was gang raped when she was out in the city.. if that isnt proof that we need protection i dont know what is..
I dunno but isn't shopping and all that suppose to be part of teh husband's job under "fetching the rizq for the family"? The wife shouldn't be forced into doing his job as far as that's concerned...
thats interesting.. even if the wife goes shopping the husband is still the one who pays for it.. the wife just gets to pick what she wants
Ukhayy Iqram you talk a lot of sense mashaAllah...
come on guys...its by the will of Allah those things happened to those poor girls, but if the wives of the rpophet may Allah be pleased with then didn't need escortation every time they stepped out the house then neither do we, we put our trust in Allah say our adhkaar for going out and inshaAllah Allah will protect us,
dunno bout you guys but i don't want to ask someone to come with me eeevery time i want to go out, if they wanna come sure tafaddhal but, otherwise its a bit of a burden...
Since its permissable don't see whats wrong with it....
As for travelling with a mahram.....thats mercy Allah sent down to women...cos it is hard in a foreign country on your own, trust me....
Allah gave these rulings for a reason , and his the all wise...
come on guys...its by the will of Allah those things happened to those poor girls, but if the wives of the rpophet may Allah be pleased with then didn't need escortation every time they stepped out the house then neither do we, we put our trust in Allah say our adhkaar for going out and inshaAllah Allah will protect us,
but it doesnt always work like that sis.. would you put your hands into boiling water and put your faith in allah swt that you wont get burnt?
you have to take precautions, especially in some societies...
Of course we need to take precautions sis, i'm not saying we don't but realistically, who is gonna take the female of the house out eeevrytime she wants to go out...?
And by reading your adhkaar thats one of the biggest precautions sis, the guy accompanying you can only help you if Allah has written that down, his only a reason for your safety...but you can't guarnatee it even then ukhtee,
but with your du'aa in Allah, his the answerer of all paryers...
and besides not every female in this world of ours has someone to protect her...
I'm glad its permissable alhamdullllah...deen yusr
wassalaam
by your logic we can derive that the laws of ifk don't apply when our sisters get slandered because it only applied to aysha because of her special status.
yes the wives of the prophet are extermely special because we consider them as our mothers etc... but as far as behaviour is concerned and etiquette, there's alot we can derive from the verses revealed to them.
salam,
when Allah wants to address ALL believing women in the Qur'an, Allah does not hesitate to do so, eg. in the famous women's dress verse:
"And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty..." - (24:31)
and in the following verse, Allah addresses the believing women alongside the wives of the Prophet:
"Oh Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters, and the believing women, that they should cast their outer garments over their persons: that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." - (33:59)
However, in certain other verses, Allah chooses ONLY to address the wives of the Prophet specifically, eg:
"Oh wives of the prophet! whoever of you commits an open indecency, the punishment shall be doubled for her; and that is easy for Allah." - (33:30)
There may be a reason why the 'remain in houses' verse was addressed only to the wives of the Prophet in the Qur'an, while 'believing women' are not mentioned here. In-fact, the very previous verse is the verse which tells us that the Prophet's wives are different from other believing women.
 
 
Ameen, you are constantly attacking the Hadith, I want you to reply to this point. Last time I asked you, you backed away and never replied.
The Quran was told to us by the same mouth that told us the hadiths. You have the Quran today, how can you differentiate between the Quran and hadith when it came from the same mouth?
“Do not argue with your Lord on behalf of your soul, rather argue with your soul on behalf of your Lord.” - Dhul-Nun
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if that isnt proof that we need protection i dont know what is..
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