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    Ruling on using the masbahah (prayer beads)

    Question:

    What is the ruling on using the masbahah (prayer beads)?

    Answer:

    Praise be to Allaah.

    Some scholars say that it is permissible to use the masbahah, but they say that it is preferable to do tasbeeh on one’s fingers; others say that it is bid’ah (reprehensible innovation).

    Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said in al-Fataawa (22/187): “Some of them might show off by putting their prayer-mats over their shoulders and carrying their masbahahs in their hands, making them symbols of religion and prayer. It is known from the mutawaatir reports that neither the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) nor his Companions used these as symbols. They used to recite tasbeeh and count on their fingers, as the hadeeth says: “Count on your fingers, for they will asked, and will be made to speak.” Some of them may count their tasbeeh with pebbles or date stones. Some people say that doing tasbeeh with the masbahah is makrooh, and some allow it, but no one says that tasbeeh with the masbahah is better than tasbeeh with the fingers.” Then he (may Allaah have mercy on him) goes on to discuss the issue of showing off with the masbahah, saying that it is showing off with regard to something that is not prescribed by Islam, which is worse than showing off with regard to something that is prescribed.

    Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-‘Uthaymeen (al-Liqa’ al-Maftooh, 3/30) was asked whether using the masbahah for tasbeeh is bid’ah, and his reply was: “It is better not to do tasbeeh with the masbahah, but it is not bid’ah, because there is a basis for it, which is the fact that some of the Sahaabah did tasbeeh with pebbles. But the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) taught that tasbeeh with the fingers is better, as he said, ‘Count with the fingertips, for they will be made to speak.’ Doing tasbeeh with the masbahah is not haraam or bid’ah, but it is better not to do it, because the one who does tasbeeh with the masbahah has shunned something better. Using the masbahah may also be contaminated with some element of showing off, because we see some people carrying masbahahs that contain a thousand beads, as if they are telling people, ‘Look at me, I do a thousand tasbeehs!’ Secondly, those who use the masbahah for tasbeeh are usually absent-minded and not focused, so you see them doing tasbeeh with the beads, but their gaze is wandering all over the place, which indicates that they are not really concentrating. It is better to do tasbeeh with one’s fingers, preferably using the right hand rather than the left, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to count his tasbeeh on his right hand. If a person counts his tasbeeh using both hands, there is nothing wrong with that, but it is better to use the right hand only.”

    Shaykh Muhammad Naasir al-Deen al-Albaani said in Al-Silsilat al-Da’eefah (1/110), where he quotes the (weak) hadeeth “What a good reminder is the subhah [masbahah],”

    “In my view, the meaning of this hadeeth is invalid for a number of reasons:

    Firstly, the subhah [masbahah] is bid’ah and was not known at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). It happened after that, so how could he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) have encouraged his Sahaabah to do something that was unknown to them? The evidence for what I have said is the report narrated by Ibn Waddaah in Al-Bid’ wa’l-Nahy ‘anhaa from al-Salt ibn Bahraam, who said: ‘Ibn Mas’ood passed by a woman who had a [masbahah] with which she was making tasbeeh, and he broke it and threw it aside, then he passed by a man who was making tasbeeh with pebbles, and he kicked him then said, “You think you are better than the Sahaabah, but you are following unjustified bid’ah! You think you have more knowledge than the Companions of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)!”’ Its isnaad is saheeh to al-Salt, who is one of the trustworthy (thiqah) followers of the Taabi’een.

    Secondly, it goes against the guidance of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr said, ‘I saw the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) counting the tasbeeh on his right hand.’”

    He also said (1/117): “If there is only one bad thing about the masbahah, which it is that it takes the place of the Sunnah of counting on the fingers, even though all are agreed that counting on the fingers is preferable, then that is bad enough. How rarely I see people counting their tasbeeh on their fingers!

    Moreover, people have invented so many sophisticated ways of following this bid’ah, so you see the followers of one of the [Sufi] tareeqahs wearing the masbahah around their necks! Or some of them counting with the beads whilst talking or listening to you! Or another one – the like of whom I have not seen for some time – riding his bicycle through a street crowded with people, with the masbahah in one of his hands! They are showing the people that they are not distracted from the remembrance of Allaah for even an instant, but in many cases this bid’ah is a cause of their neglecting what is obligatory (waajib). It has happened many times – to others as well as myself – that when I greet one of these people with salaam, they answer only by waving and not by saying the words of the greeting. The bad results of this bid’ah are innumerable, and no one can say it better than the poet:

    ‘All goodness is in following that which went before (the salaf)

    All badness is in the innovations of those who came later.’”

    And Allaah knows best.


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    Re: Use Your Fingers!

    Salam, thanks brother for clearing this up, have used beads, and now I will not I belive.

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    Re: Use Your Fingers!

    Some of them might show off by putting their prayer-mats over their shoulders and carrying their masbahahs in their hands, making them symbols of religion and prayer.
    It should be noted, this case is like nonexistant, no one ever claims it as a symbol or proclaims it, in the great great great majority of cases.

    people have invented so many sophisticated ways of following this bid’ah
    It is crazy to believe, people call this act bid'ah. This is the minority opinion and it is the WRONG opinion. Our prophet did not watch TV - doesnt make TV bid'ah, our Prophet may have not worn the clothe we do - doesn't make those clothes bid'ah.

    You don't call somthing like using beads bid'ah because our Prophet :saw: didn't use them, subhannallah!

    It is used as a counting aid, those who can count with their fingers do so and yes it is advisable - but to say its haram to use beads (bid'a = haram) is just crazy and the minority of opinions of scholars.
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    Re: Use Your Fingers!



    Jazakallaah khayr.

    Certainly using the fingers to do tasbeeh is much better for it testifies on the day of judgment as the sheikh stated. However, the companions (may Allaah be pleased with them) certainly used pebbles, some used knots to make tasbih. There is a hadeeth in Saheeh Bukhari where Sa'd Ibn Abi waqqas (rahimullaah) mentions that the prophet (peace be upon him) saw a woman using pebbles to glorify Allaah and the prophet (peace be upon him) said "Let me tell you something which would be easier or more excellent for you than that."....and so this is evidence that it is permissible and certainly not something that is deemed to be an innovation or we would be accusing of our companions of being Ahlul Bid'ah, astagfirullaah. The messenger of Allaah (peace be upon him) did not shun the woman for what she was doing. Many companions used to use beads, including the wife's prophet (peace be upon her).

    In addition the hadeeth quoted proves that using your right hand fingers is better (and there is no dispute on this) rather than refutating the claim that using beads is permissible.

    Allaah knows best.
    Use Your Fingers!

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