This just came to mind considering the next HP book is coming out. One of my teachers at this little Islamic School I used to go to said HP was haram. I asked her why and she told me it was because of the witchcraft in the book. Now I don't read HP for that, but for the actual reading. I really enjoy the work J.K. Rowling has put into her books and don't plan on practicing witch craft any time soon . Your thoughts?
Isn't the verse plain enough? Don't forbid ourself things that ALLAH haven't forbidden unto us... Is there any verse or Hadith which specifically forbid muslims from reading fairy tales?
what about the famous 1001 Arabian tales (Kitāb 'Alf Layla wa-Layla)? Is it forbidden too?
Isn't the verse plain enough? Don't forbid ourself things that ALLAH haven't forbidden unto us... Is there any verse or Hadith which specifically forbid muslims from reading fairy tales?
what about the famous 1001 Arabian tales (Kitāb 'Alf Layla wa-Layla)? Is it forbidden too?
how many hadiths do u know?
100, 200 , 300??
do u know enough hadiths or verse, are they abrogated, the state of hadiths, etc. to say "this is halal or haram" ????
bro fear Allah swt, don't try to make things halal haram, and try to use verses to serve your opinions, remember we (who are not scholars) whether we are right or not on an issue, trying to comment on verses, we get a great sin. So please don't try to make things halal haram.
simply, let's ask a scholar and see what he says. without trying to quote verses here.
Can I just point out that the type of magic that goes on in Harry Potter isn't the type of magic that is shirk in Islam.
Magic is haram in Islam, yes, but at the same when we say magic, we aren't talking about fantasy worlds where wizards and witches wave a wand to cast spells and stuff like that.
Magic refers to using the jinns to do stuff for you, such as possess other people. This is shirk, because it involves worshipping the jinns before they will help you.
I'm not saying that that books are haram or not. I am just pointing out that the type of magic talked about in Harry Potter isn't the same as the magic referred to in Islam.
Question:
Is it OK to read books on Science fiction where a mad scientist creates a human being or a hybrid between a human and an animal?
Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.
If these stories include lies, such as Darwin’s theory (evolution), and other things that are contrary to the facts stated by Islam and the facts of natural science, then the Muslim should avoid them, and keep himself busy with something that will be of use to him, such as learning good things or doing righteous deeds or reading true stories and historical accounts and so on. Many of the movies and novels that are known as “Science Fiction” include a lot of kufr, such as putting life and death in the hands of some created being, giving creatures the ability to create from nothing, saying that scientists in laboratories can create from nothing, making inanimate things come alive, creating life from a fossil that has been dead for many millenia, or travelling to the future then coming back to the present. All of this is impossible, and no one knows the unseen except for Allaah. Some of these novels and movies also include clear contradictions of historical facts that are mentioned in the Qur’aan and Sunnah, such as man’s creation and his life on earth. When the Muslim indulges in reading these books or watching these movies, it shakes his belief or at the very least wastes his time and keeps him busy with something that is of no benefit to him. Some people claim that this is just entertainment and a way of passing time, but entertainment is not permitted if it is haraam, and the Muslim’s time is too precious to be wasted on such trivial things. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “One of the signs of a person being properly committed to Islam is that he leaves alone that which does not concern him.” (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, 2239, and others. Also in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 5911). And Allaah knows best.
Are we talking about Jurassic Park now? Cracking book. It's science fiction, so I don't know if certain crazy people will say it's haraam, but all I know is it's enjoyable.
As for Harry Potter, having read them (apart from the previous two), I don't think they're preaching witchcraft. If that were the case, Star Wars and Lord of the Rings... heck, anything with magic in it would be haraam. But it's fiction. It's not real, and it's not indoctrinating kiddies with its fake latin-lite magic 'spells'.
Of course, if you believe that it wastes time that could be better spent in the pursuit of Islamic teachings, that's fine and your prerogative. But it's quite a jump to go from that to declaring it haraam.
I wonder if half of Roald Dahl's stuff is considered haraam. I can see how Alice in Wonderland might, considering that Mr Carol appeared to have been smoking illegal substances while writing it, but meh, it's a cool book.
bro VPB utmost respect to you for taking your islam before your own desires. may Allah reward you, subhanAllah
everyone else, stop taking your own whims/thoughts and desires to be your deciding factor. So you think harry potter is for kids and is perfectly allright, big deal, theres many who think violence is allright, theres many who think swearing is allright, theres many who think exposing is allright, but the hidden gradual effects of everything takes time to become exposed. When scholars give a verdict we DO NOT call it BS!!!! and i HAVE seen scholars encourage us to stay away from harry potter.
people are becoming too ignorant these days... they think they know everything thats best for them..
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My tears testify that i have a heart
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lol wat about the first post? but i suppose that teacher of the poster isnt here so technically
yes, that's what I meant . bc the person who told the person on the first/second post is not here, so we don't count him. the person was just narrating
lol i wudnt say its haram, i'd say its something the scholars encourage us to refrain from...
why do we always ask "is it haram? is it makruh"??
i mean why would we want to do something which doesn't please Allah swt?? we can't be perfect, but at least try to go away from such things, at the very least say "i know HP is not good for muslims, it's loss of time, but I watch it", just being honest. our main objective is to get as closer to Allah as possible, but not with HP or stuff like that. but I can't understand muslims defending their wish to watch/read HP
why do we always ask "is it haram? is it makruh"??
to understand the level of disobedience we'll be indulging in when we take ourselves into account. Also i dont think makhruh is haram... if the scholars put it on different terms then we shouldnt equate it right?
i heard only makhruh-tahrimah is CLOSE to haram but not makhruh it self. even makhruh has its different levels, so questioning "is it makhruh or haram?" is worth it, we'll know the severity we put ourselves into....
i mean why would we want to do something which doesn't please Allah swt??
no muslim wants to do this, but some muslims simply slip...
we can't be perfect, but at least try to go away from such things, at the very least say "i know HP is not good for muslims, it's loss of time, but I watch it", just being honest. our main objective is to get as closer to Allah as possible, but not with HP or stuff like that. but I can't understand muslims defending their wish to watch/read HP
yeah
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My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
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to understand the level of disobedience we'll be indulging in when we take ourselves into account. Also i dont think makhruh is haram... if the scholars put it on different terms then we shouldnt equate it right?
i heard only makhruh-tahrimah is CLOSE to haram but not makhruh it self. even makhruh has its different levels, so questioning "is it makhruh or haram?" is worth it, we'll know the severity we put ourselves into....
lolll bro ,
I didn't mean to say that haram and makruh are equal, what I meant to say is that, most muslims always seek just "is it haram?" ..bc basically, when we see something that is not haram, we just free our selves to do it, but we don't take on account that it might be makruh (which Allah didn't forbid, but HE hates it). do you get what I mean?
we always take just the minimum.
like some muslims never avoid going in places where alchool is sold, they just know it's not haram, and they go , with or without a reason. but they don't take into account that they are doing some that Allah swt hates.
so I mean, we should also try to get away from things which are makruh.
just bc Allah swt didn't make it haram, it's not very good to do it, while we know Allah doesn't like that deed.
just bc now Harry potter is not haram? but is something which is not prefered in Islam, should we go ahead and do it? our objective is to get closer to Allah, trying to do as much as possible deeds which please Allah swt, and avoid those that don't.
I know we can't do that 100%, but at least agree with the fact that Harry potter is not a good thing for muslims. there are other way for entartainment
why do we always ask "is it haram? is it makruh"??
i mean why would we want to do something which doesn't please Allah swt?? we can't be perfect, but at least try to go away from such things, at the very least say
That is true but at the same time we shouldn't overwhelm people, not every one is at the level that they are able enough to give up makruh things as well as haram.
but I can't understand muslims defending their wish to watch/read HP
Watching is a whole different story... that filled with haram stuff, like music, inappropriate dress etc. :blind:
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(peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “One of the signs of a person being properly committed to Islam is that he leaves alone that which does not concern him.” (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, 2239, and others. Also in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 5911). And Allaah knows best.
lollll
but i suppose that teacher of the poster isnt here so technically
but i suppose that teacher of the poster isnt here so technically
. bc the person who told the person on the first/second post is not here, so we don't count him. the person was just narrating
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