ahhhah frustrating simple Arabic sentence ...or is it?????

**Andaraawus** · 01-24-2006

As-Salamu alaykum

i am having difficulty on which seems to be a simple sentence

ضرباً غير مبرح ولا شائن

i got the first part ....a beating that is not violent

and not somrthing, i know its not a verb in the past tense as it would have a maa before it but what confuses me is it looks like an Ismu fa'il but because it has the laa before it, i dont understand why its not monsoob having the extra alif....

ok whos lost???

anyways i would like to know what shaainu means ... its quite a simple word on the outlook, i have certainly had the dictionary out...

oh yes i am also looking for Arabic dictionarys online to help me with my studys ....wasalams

**amirah_87** · 03-31-2006

salaams akhee,
"shaa'in" its roots comes from the verb :"shaana" which is the past tense, "yasheenu" is the present it means :to disfigure or disfeature (there's also more meanings to it but i find that these two suit the sntence better).
shaa'in : means dishonourable , scandulous
shayn:means disfigurement.

so the meaning to your whole sentence akhee will be : a beating that is not violent nor scandulous.........allah knows best.

you askied about an online dictionary !!! go to www.babel.com , i havent tried it bet a freind of mine uses it .

wassalaam!!!!!!!!!

**- Qatada -** · 03-31-2006

http://babelfish.altavista.com/ i think its this site, but it doesn't support arabic. Allaahu a'lam.

**amirah_87** · 03-31-2006

salaams akhee,
i pretty sure thats its babel only , a freind of mine teaches and she uses that to help her on the words she doesnt know ..... give it a try
salaamz

**Andaraawus** · 03-31-2006

thank you ... i left a little note on your rep which you can find in the user c.p wasalams

**amirah_87** · 04-01-2006

salaams akhee , i'm kinda new to this 3rd day can you just spell out to me how to get there????????????

thanx

**amirah_87** · 04-01-2006

salaams ,
no worries found it!!!!!!!!!

**extinction** · 04-07-2006

wow you guys can speak fushaa I know a little but its hard!!!!

**amirah_87** · 04-25-2006

Originally Posted by Andaraawus

As-Salamu alaykum

i am having difficulty on which seems to be a simple sentence

ضرباً غير مبرح ولا شائن

, i dont understand why its not monsoob having the extra alif....

hey akhee i forgot ot answer this bit sorry about that....................

well the reasons shaa'in is not mansuub is because the laa' before is called laa' un-naafiyah.....every noun that comes after has to be mar'fuu

**Muslimaatan** · 04-27-2006

Originally Posted by amirah_87

hey akhee i forgot ot answer this bit sorry about that....................

well the reasons shaa'in is not mansuub is because the laa' before is called laa' un-naafiyah.....every noun that comes after has to be mar'fuu

heyyyyyyyyyy!! i just took the lesson of i3rab about laa annafiya 2day!! and how it works in i3rab..that was sooooo easy!! same time borin..cuz i took these stuff wen i was in palestine, wen i was like in 4th grade, but then i came bakk here.....n stayed here...2 bad 4 me..

**extinction** · 04-27-2006

no but then wouldnt a punishment that doesnt disfigure be more in context with the content? I'm sure thats the proper meaning? I think it refers to the husband punishing the wife

**Muslimaatan** · 04-28-2006

yeah i think it refers 2 that too...

**extinction** · 04-28-2006

Originally Posted by Muslimaatan

yeah i think it refers 2 that too...

for the same reason that I do or for other reasons?

**Mawaddah** · 04-28-2006

Isn't that in the hadeeth when the Prophet tells about how the beating of a wife should be done

amirah_87.........mumkin uraaji' ma3aki al kutub an nahwiyyah? Because boyyyyyy after we left Dammaj all of my grammar taarat ma3a ar-reeh

**Muslimaatan** · 04-29-2006

Originally Posted by hafizmo

for the same reason that I do or for other reasons?

i dunno wat ur reason is...

**Hamba Allah** · 04-29-2006

I don't know where to write this but it's the closest thread to my problem

What does "Ad at Tatar" mean?

**amirah_87** · 04-29-2006

Originally Posted by AsilahRana

Isn't that in the hadeeth when the Prophet tells about how the beating of a wife should be done

amirah_87.........mumkin uraaji' ma3aki al kutub an nahwiyyah? Because boyyyyyy after we left Dammaj all of my grammar taarat ma3a ar-reeh

Salaaams Asilah

yeah thats a hadeeth, we it covered with Shiekha Aisha in Dharaary!!! hafidahaallah(kitab an-nikaah) ,
and yes mumkin nuraaji3 al-kutub an-nahawiyyah ma'an , i know how u can forget it soo quick without the muraa'aja'ah but alhamdulillah , a sister asked me to teach her the luqat , including the sarf which umm hayaat taught us , so i've started medina book 1 with her she wants me to go all the way to qadr aswell which i don't mind cause it'll be good muraaja'ah for me ......innit

wassalaams

**Silver** · 04-30-2006

Shae'n means

isgraceful.

**Silver** · 04-30-2006

Originally Posted by Lara

Shae'n means

isgraceful.

Sorry,I meant to say Disgraceful.

**Noora_z3** · 04-30-2006

Originally Posted by amirah_87

hey akhee i forgot ot answer this bit sorry about that....................

well the reasons shaa'in is not mansuub is because the laa' before is called laa' un-naafiyah.....every noun that comes after has to be mar'fuu

The first part is true, the laa' is called Laa' un-nafiay, but the second part is wrong, every noun that comes after has to be Majzoom, means (Sokoun) at the end. I am pretty sure of my answer..