وى نعيم بن حماد شيخ البخارى بسنده عن عبد الله بن مسعود رضى الله عنه عن النبى صلى الله عليه وسلم قال : " .. و يثب الروم على ما بقى فى بلادهم من العرب فيقتلونهم حتى لا يبقى بأرض الروم عربى و لا عربية ولا ولد عربى إلا قتل …. " كتاب الفتن ، باب : الاعماق رفتح القسطنطينية ( ص 260)
و انظروا إلى قول الحبيب صلى الله عليه وسلم : " عربى ولا عربية ولا ولد عربي " ، لم يقل مسلم و مسلمة و إنما قال عربى و عربية ، إذ إن الروم سيئبون على كل من له ملامح عربية و إن كان نصرانيأ و إن كان لا يصلي فيقتلونهم بغير تمييز ، و جاء التعبير فى صورة النكرة فى سياق النفى ( لا يبقى عربى ) فافاد العموم ، بمعنى أنه لن ينجو أحد ممن " بقى فى بلادهم " و رفض العودة إلى بلده .
فما أن تنشب " الملحمة الكبرى " و هى فى أعقاب " هر مجدون " حتى يكون العرب بأرض الروم ( أمريكا و أوربا ) فى خطر عظيم ، فاعتبروا يا أولى الألباب .
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
it means there will come a time where the "Romans" denotes America/Europe.. will attack all those of Arabic features/descent/ man/woman and child, and will not discriminate even if you are a non-Muslim but of eastern descent and will slaughter you.. from the book of tribulations page 260
until there is none of you left.. further will happen around the "mal7ama alkobra" which is the great war.. "Mal7ama" really comes from torn flesh if we are going to go literal in at end of haar majdoon... I am not sure if that is a place or part of war or what exactly haar majdoon means? if someone wishes to shed light on the term I'd be much obliged... but basically they will slaughter us from their lands...
this whole "war on terrorism" thing is just a beginning, as you can see the people they have arrested recently are doctors, they want to create the allusion that Muslims from all walks of life who subscribe to this religion of Islam are terrorists and deserve death because there is no such thing as a Muslim non-terrorist-- this is another crusade and this is their media.. and blatantly obvious what they are working themselves up to.. the great crescendo, I should like to call it...
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
this whole "war on terrorism" thing is just a beginning, as you can see the people they have arrested recently are doctors, they want to create the allusion that Muslims from all walks of life who subscribe to this religion of Islam are terrorists and deserve death because there is no such thing as a Muslim non-terrorist-- this is another crusade and this is their media.. and blatantly obvious what they are working themselves up to.. the great crescendo, I should like to call it...
just imagine, the two cars, one parked not straight, the other one parked on yellow line, and smelling of gas.
it's just that they didn't put a paper saying "This car is a bomb". lollll
it's just silly when u hear these things.
but inshaAllah, if we do dawah as much as we can, we will show ppl that Islam does not preach terrorism. Allah with destroy their plots. They didn't do anything with their plots, except raise the number of ppl coming to Islam
it means there will come a time where the "Romans" denotes America/Europe.. will attack all those of Arabic features/descent/ man/woman and child, and will not discriminate even if you are a non-Muslim but of eastern descent and will slaughter you.. from the book of tribulations page 260
until there is none of you left.. further will happen around the "mal7ama alkobra" which is the great war.. "Mal7ama" really comes from torn flesh if we are going to go literal in at end of haar majdoon... I am not sure if that is a place or part of war or what exactly haar majdoon means? if someone wishes to shed light on the term I'd be much obliged... but basically they will slaughter us from their lands...
this whole "war on terrorism" thing is just a beginning, as you can see the people they have arrested recently are doctors, they want to create the allusion that Muslims from all walks of life who subscribe to this religion of Islam are terrorists and deserve death because there is no such thing as a Muslim non-terrorist-- this is another crusade and this is their media.. and blatantly obvious what they are working themselves up to.. the great crescendo, I should like to call it...
Are you sure you want to open up this can of worms ?By the way whos the author of that? Just curious too ...
Yes shes sure. Because there will be no debate about this InshaaAllah. As i keep saying, you don't have to agree with what you read, but if you want to reply speak good or remain silent. If you think youre going to start a debate then dont even bother. Because any and all post even hinting at a debate will be deleted inshaaAllah.
This is an islamic board to seek knowlegde of Islam. Not to debate everything you dont agree with board. If you agreed with everything that was posted you'll would be Muslim innit?
read, learn, become enlighten, or at the very least, read and then remain silent.
The Creator الْخَالِقُ The Makerالْبَارِئُ The Fashionerالْمُصَوِّرُ
:enough!: Getting entirely fed up with the foolishness :enough!:
Are you sure you want to open up this can of worms ?By the way whos the author of that? Just curious too ...
This can has been open for almost 6 years now, with no sign of a close. InshaAllah with our unity and unanimous prayers, we can strive to make a change as one. "United we stand, Divided we fall"
Yes shes sure. Because there will be no debate about this InshaaAllah. As i keep saying, you don't have to agree with what you read, but if you want to reply speak good or remain silent. If you think youre going to start a debate then dont even bother. Because any and all post even hinting at a debate will be deleted inshaaAllah.
This is an islamic board to seek knowlegde of Islam. Not to debate everything you dont agree with board. If you agreed with everything that was posted you'll would be Muslim innit?
read, learn, become enlighten, or at the very least, read and then remain silent.
One question does her post pertain Knowledge , Or is it the only type of knowldge you rather here ???
read, learn, become enlighten, or at the very least, read and then remain silent.
Ok I hate to disagree, but thats just slightly narrow minded, if people don't understand or agree with something, they should by all means and measures have the right to question your claims and information. Think about it in terms of a broader picture, the whole world thinks muslims are something they aren't so when we read the papers stating horrendous correlations like Islamic Extremists.... we are supposed to read, learn, become enlighten[ed], or at the very least, read and then remain silent? "To question (ask) is the cure... not the problem"
You can disagree, i think i just told balthasar up there that.
The problem isnt asking questions, I think i deserve a little mroe credit than that. The PROBLEM is the way people like to push their points across, no one seems to know how to 'ask' anything anymore, everything is about " thats not true, yada yada yada.....im right, youre wrong....yada yada yada"
That ^^ is what i dont need. Its called debating. Everytime an article gets put up along the lines of this one, or anything else someone doesnt agree with from an Islamic point of view, they start debating and bashing and all that, dont know where youre from, but where im from thats not asking, and trying to learn, thats being ignorant and causing problems.
No matter how much correct NON extreme information we post, theres always those who debate an bash it, some people dont want to hear the truth for their own good sake, they want to hear what we have to say so they can debate it and degrade it.
Besides, this is NOT the comparative religion section, its the general section.
Also, the Prophet sallallahu alaihi wa salaam said:
Let you who believe in Allah and the last day, speak good OR REMAIN SILENT!
format_quote Originally Posted by hafizmo
Ok I hate to disagree, but thats just slightly narrow minded, if people don't understand or agree with something, they should by all means and measures have the right to question your claims and information. Think about it in terms of a broader picture, the whole world thinks muslims are something they aren't so when we read the papers stating horrendous correlations like Islamic Extremists.... we are supposed to read, learn, become enlighten[ed], or at the very least, read and then remain silent? "To question (ask) is the cure... not the problem"
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The Creator الْخَالِقُ The Makerالْبَارِئُ The Fashionerالْمُصَوِّرُ
:enough!: Getting entirely fed up with the foolishness :enough!:
umniyah isn't mistken. In saheeh bukhari it's liyasmut, perhaps it came as liyaskut in another narration Allaahu a'lam, but they mean the same thing alhamdulilaah
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Getting entirely fed up with the foolishness
it means there will come a time where the "Romans" denotes America/Europe.. will attack all those of Arabic features/descent/ man/woman and child, and will not discriminate even if you are a non-Muslim but of eastern descent and will slaughter you.. from the book of tribulations page 260
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