Right Ho! Paradise...Now what?

Ok. The last day has come and gone, everyone is either away in paradise or hell.

Now what?
My question's are.
1)Can we bear it?
We are in paradise for eternity...thats going to be utterly unbearable.Imagine living in a place where there is no hardship, no challenge, no anger, no future, no hope, no sleep, no change..for ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever...without cease.
2) Whats the point?
God created us to pass his test so that we can live forever in bliss if we do his will. well here we are , his will has been done and he's pleased with us. Now what do we do. Whats our purpose, whats the point of anything. Are we in paradise to eternally praise him still, if so whats the point in that? It's like creating your own eternal-self cheering show. The whole of creation was made for us,just so that we could praise god and pass the test. Do we have any other use?
3) Might as well throw away reality now?
God has whipped up in 6 days a pretty infinate universe with Trillions of stars with Gigaparsecs of space. Lets say that he set up a few other planets as well with humans on it to pass his tests. The day has come and gone. Everything that he's created, is it all going to fizzle out now? It's of no use anymore.

since it eid probably not many people who can answer are around. anyway, I've actually thought much along your first point myaalef in the past,and it seems to me that first of all the interpretation of paradise and hell have somewhat deviated from what they originally meant. it does seem so boring if how you describe it is actually how it is, I'm not the best person to answer this but atleast consider that if the creator exists then he would know more than you would, and hell set things according to that.

spelling mistakes,,,,sorry, I was writing too quickly

i love life and am thankful to god for my life.
that said, i never found the concept of eternal life (be it in heaven or hell) in the least bit appealing.

Eternal life sounds more like a curse than a blessing. Long life sounds nice, but eternal? I think you should be careful what you wish for. I'd go stir crazy after a century or two.

Paradise is whatever you want it to be. So if you became bored with it, you'd simply change it to your liking. And working hard in your life so that you achieve eternal enlightenment? Surely that would be blissful. Most of the times, rewards are only truly pleasurable if the mountain you had to climb to get them were huge. So the harder you work in your life to be a good person, the more rewarding it will be, both in this physical life, and in the spiritual hereafter, if you believe in it.

barney said:

1)Can we bear it?
We are in paradise for eternity...thats going to be utterly unbearable.Imagine living in a place where there is no hardship, no challenge, no anger, no future, no hope, no sleep, no change..for ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever...without cease.

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THE HORROR OF IT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ..... lol are you serious?!

you do know boredome- growing weary - getting tired - lack of excitement interest - DULLNESS are all worldly feelings and emotions and in heaven they will have no part. Pure peace and contentment, purest desires always fulfilled, each experience better then the last... this is heaven.

May Allaah grant all of us (muslims) jannah !

2) Whats the point?
God created us to pass his test so that we can live forever in bliss if we do his will. well here we are , his will has been done and he's pleased with us. Now what do we do. Whats our purpose, whats the point of anything. Are we in paradise to eternally praise him still, if so whats the point in that? It's like creating your own eternal-self cheering show. The whole of creation was made for us,just so that we could praise god and pass the test. Do we have any other use?

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you chill , refer to my post above

3) Might as well throw away reality now?
God has whipped up in 6 days a pretty infinate universe with Trillions of stars with Gigaparsecs of space. Lets say that he set up a few other planets as well with humans on it to pass his tests. The day has come and gone. Everything that he's created, is it all going to fizzle out now? It's of no use anymore.

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does it matter?! if God wants to finish with something that is up to him !


Peace

Pygoscelis said:

Eternal life sounds more like a curse than a blessing. Long life sounds nice, but eternal? I think you should be careful what you wish for. I'd go stir crazy after a century or two.

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Depends entirely on the way you live.

silly example but i'll use it, people who fall in love talk about eternity etc and they "mean it !" but the thing is, its due to that strong spark they get inside during those moments they are near to one another. So imagine this feeling but it never fades and only gets stronger and purer.

If you can understand that even slightly, then know heaven has unimaginable times stronger feelings and emotions, which always grow stronger.

Whats your thought now?!

'Only boring people get bored'

Though I defy people to believe that statement while watching paint dry. No sniffing allowed!

I dont think the paradise is made for faithfuls to be bored....

[BANANA]God is the Most Creative!!![/BANANA]

snakelegs said:

i love life and am thankful to god for my life.
that said, i never found the concept of eternal life (be it in heaven or hell) in the least bit appealing.

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I am glad to see that you have a thankful heart and belief in God. The concept of Paradise has value only if one believes in a resurrection from the dead and eternal life in basically one of two places. Without that belief neither Heaven nor Hell have any value whatsoever - at least this side of Judgement Day (another belief). However, if there is in fact a life after death, I am certain that one's perspective will change instantly with that realization, albeit too late to do any good. Peace.

Is there any TV?

Gator said:

Is there any TV?

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If you want there to be.

But dude come on, who would watch TV in PARADISE??:giggling:

Depends whats on.

Well technically, whatever you please...

Does anyone else think this debate is fundamentally too metaphysical to be taken seriously for any substantial length of time? I mean no disrespect to any participants, it's just the topic is becoming understandably farcical.

Next up: Angels. How do they get their wings so fluffy?

Yeah, you're right. I'm done.
(I just learned a new word. Farcical.)

I agree the discussion is farcical, but another thought occurred to me. We don't really know what our existence will consist of, how we will percieve it, or how conscious we will be of the concept of time.

Keltoi said:

I agree the discussion is farcical, but another thought occurred to me. We don't really know what our existence will consist of, how we will percieve it, or how conscious we will be of the concept of time.

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I’d submit that you already know the answer to that question. What does anyone remember before they were born, anything?

No, of course not. It’s pretty self evident. Pre-natal and post-mortem are indistinguishable from one another.

I will try my best to answer the three questions using Quran as my backup:

Ok. The last day has come and gone, everyone is either away in paradise or hell.
Now what?
My question's are.
1)Can we bear it?
We are in paradise for eternity...thats going to be utterly unbearable.Imagine living in a place where there is no hardship, no challenge, no anger, no future, no hope, no sleep, no change..for ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever...without cease.

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The Quran says:

So in Paradise the delights and happiness of its inmates will endure forever. The people of Paradise will find absolutely nothing to complain about:


So this is the promise of Allah that the Believers will be content and have nothing to fear or grieve, theirs will only be eternal happiness.


The problem you are having is that you are comparing the temporal pleasures of this life. It is true there are many things in this world which people desire and think will bring them lasting happiness, but when they achieve what they desire they soon lose their happiness and want more and more. So in this world man is never truly content and at peace. But the reality and nature of Paradise is altogether different:

2) Whats the point?
God created us to pass his test so that we can live forever in bliss if we do his will. well here we are , his will has been done and he's pleased with us. Now what do we do. Whats our purpose, whats the point of anything. Are we in paradise to eternally praise him still, if so whats the point in that? It's like creating your own eternal-self cheering show. The whole of creation was made for us,just so that we could praise god and pass the test. Do we have any other use?

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The point of human existence is to worship Allah:


And so worship of Allah never ceases as long as men and jinn exist because that is our sole function and purpose. In Paradise the reality of worship may be different from in this world, but the definition of worship remains the same, submitting to and obeying Allah.

So the important thing to know is Allah has promised us a reward if we obey and submit to Him in this world, and that reward is the best of rewards. No one can dispute that the best of rewards endures forever. Allah is not in need of our prayers and our worship of Him so to Him it makes no difference, so this should answer your question "do we have any other use?", since we never have any use in the first place. Allah is in no need to use anything.

3) Might as well throw away reality now?
God has whipped up in 6 days a pretty infinate universe with Trillions of stars with Gigaparsecs of space. Lets say that he set up a few other planets as well with humans on it to pass his tests. The day has come and gone. Everything that he's created, is it all going to fizzle out now? It's of no use anymore.

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Again Allah has no need for a "use". He created this vast universe with its millions of stars, planets, multitude of galaxies etc. Indeed it is a sign of His greatness and His Power and a sign that it is He alone that is to be worshipped and submitted to, and not any of His creation. Allah says "be" and it is, there is no such thing as "hard work" for Him.

Do they seek for other than the Religion of Allah.-while all creatures in the heavens and on earth have, willing or unwilling, bowed to His Will (Accepted Islam), and to Him shall they all be brought back.
(Al Imran 3:83)​