Government ready for Wilders' film fall-out

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Government ready for Wilders' film fall-out
Friday 18 January 2008

Government security experts have drawn up a 20-page document detailing how to deal with the expected fall-out of the anti-Koran film being made by MP Geert Wilders, the Volkskrant reports on Friday.

The paper says the document, marked 'state secret' has been circulated to need-to-know ministers only.

There are also instructions for diplomatic staff so that they will be ready to deal with protests and embassy evacuation plans have been drawn up, the paper says.

Ambassadors in Islamic countries are currently talking to their contacts about the film. While stressing that freedom of speech is an important in the Netherlands, they are also making it clear that Wilders’ opinions are not shared by the government, the paper says.

The film is due to be screened at the end of the month.
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http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2008/01/government_prepares_for_wilder.php
 
While I am a proponent of free speech, I have to wonder if this director should think long and hard how he is going to feel if people are murdered because of his movie.

...actually, maybe he will consider that justification for his views.
 
Salam 3alekum lina, r u from holland aswell:)? cuz i had similiar thread a while ago:) salam
 
who cares, let him make his silly movie, it aint gonna affect us, ill tell you from now 99% of Muslims dont even know about this film, the only way Muslims are going to find out is when Muslim politicians and groups start bringing it up, then it gives it popularity amongst non-Muslims, and it makes Muslims go watch it or read about it and it then ticks the Muslims off.

let the dogs bark.
 
quite frankly who really cares what the dutch think? i dont want to sound rude but i find the dutch to be the most backward people on this earth, with their red light districts and wide legal prostitution, and all those bars and clubs where drugs are legal......its like satan's playground, so who really cares for the opinions of such ppl? i sure as heck wouldnt want their support! having them hate my religion and myself actually makes me feel good, cause i hate their ways and them as well! so were even.
 
Hamada said:
Salam 3alekum lina, r u from holland aswell:)? cuz i had similiar thread a while ago:) salam
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:w:

Yes, I am.

The_Prince said:
quite frankly who really cares what the dutch think? i dont want to sound rude but i find the dutch to be the most backward people on this earth, with their red light districts and wide legal prostitution, and all those bars and clubs where drugs are legal......its like satan's playground, so who really cares for the opinions of such ppl? i sure as heck wouldnt want their support! having them hate my religion and myself actually makes me feel good, cause i hate their ways and them as well! so were even.
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What about Dutch people who are Muslim, like myself?

''Who cares about their opinions?'' So we should just let them say what they want about our deen and our Prophet sallah Allah alayhi wa sallam?
 
ik leef inmiddels niet meer in nedeland, maar toen in in nederland woonde was het erg.. :) effe wat nederlands prate al lang niet gedaan, en ik heb men exames in nederlands in en maandje...(ben nederlands al aardig vergeten)

How are things in holland now then? Are people bothered about this?(none muslims)
 
European politics act in two extremes.Either they ban cartoons with 3 pigs not to offend "minoritis" either they do things like this Wilder.I just wonder what he wants to achieve by this.Doesnt he see that he wants to fight with the effects of the holland's crisis and not the cause.Because muslims didnt appear in Holland unwanted, they came there because native Dutches had better things to do than having more children to work for their country.
 
There is a sometimes a fine line between "freedom of speech" and "complete idiocy with totally predictable unpleasant consequences". This is the latter.

However;

The_Prince said:
who cares, let him make his silly movie, it aint gonna affect us, ill tell you from now 99% of Muslims dont even know about this film, the only way Muslims are going to find out is when Muslim politicians and groups start bringing it up, then it gives it popularity amongst non-Muslims, and it makes Muslims go watch it or read about it and it then ticks the Muslims off.
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is an excellent point. If those who do know about it just ignore it, the muslims who don't know about it won't be offended and the non-muslims who don't know about it (and let's face it, the great majority of those who do) won't go and see it and the whole thing will quietly slip back into the obscurity from which it emerged.
 
http://martinstanford.typepad.com/foreign_matters/2008/01/dutch-braced-fo.html

I have to wonder what his goal is with this video... Is it for entertainment value for bigots and a******s, or is it to provoke Muslims into reacting irrationally to be able to say "See I told ya so".... I wont hate the Dutch for this, but I would like to jack this guy up a bit for being such a prick. I wonder if it would be OK for me to make a video that promoted distaste for blacks and showed someone ripping up the civil rights, etc. I agree with free speech but being disrespectful to the point of making a video and tearing up something that means something to a different people just isnt right. I wouldnt go into a riot about it, but if I ran into this guy I would take the opportunity to make him into a chew toy.

Anyways, I hope Muslims dont go crazy about it, it would be just playing right into the guys hand
 
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The_Prince said:
who cares, let him make his silly movie, it aint gonna affect us, ill tell you from now 99% of Muslims dont even know about this film, the only way Muslims are going to find out is when Muslim politicians and groups start bringing it up, then it gives it popularity amongst non-Muslims, and it makes Muslims go watch it or read about it and it then ticks the Muslims off.

let the dogs bark.
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i agree.
as i said on the other thread - it is a trap hoping to provoke enough muslims that a handful will go beserk and make good television plus increase support for conservative, anti-immigrant parties across europe.
i really hope that no one takes the bait - wouldn't that be a disappointment?
 
minaz said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders

This guy sounds and definitly looks like a prick.

I guess I shall start boycotting Dutch products soon, I shall start with the national team at Euro '08 :D
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OMG...what a total flamer Geert is. Not that there is anything wrong with that, of course :D

It seems like the Dutch government is trying to distance themselves already.

Prior to this thread, I thought Nordoeurophobia only extended to the Swedes and Danes. I appears I was mistaken.
 
The whole situation is so bizarre. Nobody knows what is actually going to happen in the movie, yet there is so much controversy and debate about it.
 
Trumble said:
There is a sometimes a fine line between "freedom of speech" and "complete idiocy with totally predictable unpleasant consequences". This is the latter.

However;

is an excellent point. If those who do know about it just ignore it, the muslims who don't know about it won't be offended and the non-muslims who don't know about it (and let's face it, the great majority of those who do) won't go and see it and the whole thing will quietly slip back into the obscurity from which it emerged.
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Lets hope so. But virtually nobody in the Muslim world saw the Muhammed cartoons either, yet that caused plenty of problems.

Local Muslim groups are all acting very mature and responsible on this matter. Nobody expects serious problems in Holland itself, but how Muslims abroad will respond remains to be seen. The Iranian parliament has already threatened to break ties with the Netherlands for example. There might be 'spontaneous agitation' on the 'Muslim street'.
 
You may be right. For some bored youths every occassion is good to make some chaos.
 
Hamada said:
ik leef inmiddels niet meer in nedeland, maar toen in in nederland woonde was het erg.. :) effe wat nederlands prate al lang niet gedaan, en ik heb men exames in nederlands in en maandje...(ben nederlands al aardig vergeten)

How are things in holland now then? Are people bothered about this?(none muslims)
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Aha, zo.

Geen idee. Er is wel veel ophef over maar of de film daadwerkelijk zoveel aandacht toekomt; geen idee. We shall see, of helemaal niet. Misschien is er helemaal geen film, who knows.

minaz said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders

This guy sounds and definitly looks like a prick.

I guess I shall start boycotting Dutch products soon, I shall start with the national team at Euro '08 :D
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Googled him ay? Smart move.
I think the looks are part of his one man show. Pretty cool ha?
 
If this turns out anti-islamic I dont care, but if he lies about Islam in this film, people should not be suprised if he ends up being killed, I hope he does if so..
 

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