Government ready for Wilders' film fall-out

[Muezzin]

The people who react violently are being idiotic.

The people who deliberately set out solely to provoke such people are being equally idiotic.

I went to an all boys school - a lot of fights resulted from this sort of stupidity. The rights and wrongs of people's positions cease to mean anything when both sides are being foolish. But hey, they're teenage boys - we give them detention for such behaviour. When adults act the same way we give them... therapy. Hmm.

Anyway, if you're saying something you feel needs to be said, and making what you deem a valid criticism (as opposed to sensationalist, strawman garbage calculated solely to cause controversy), that's fine in my eyes.

 

[MTAFFI]

The rights and wrongs of people's positions cease to mean anything when both sides are being foolish.

that statement couldnt be more true, and could probably be used on nearly every thread in world affairs.. Good statement

Peace

 

[crayon]

I seriously have a feeling this is just going to be another Theo Van Gogh episode.. Benefiting no one.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

I seriously have a feeling this is just going to be another Theo Van Gogh episode.. Benefiting no one.

Noone, except for anti-islamists!

 

[crayon]

I suppose it expresses their opinion, but that's about it, right?

Like, if I call a kid at school names or make fun of him, it doesn't do anyone any good.

 

[minaz]

I suppose it expresses their opinion, but that's about it, right?

People tend to forget opinions they have heard and spoken opinions don't have the same impact as does a visual media source. When this film is released, the main audience would be Islamaphobes and this distorted film will just heighten their mentality.

I aint against freedom of speech/opinion, however in my view, the creation of films and other media tools do far more damage, and exceed the freedom of speech.

 

[crayon]

People tend to forget opinions they have heard and spoken opinions don't have the same impact as does a visual media source. When this film is released, the main audience would be Islamaphobes and this distorted film will just heighten their mentality.

Ahh, true that. Hadn't thought of it that way..

 

[Whatsthepoint]

I suppose it expresses their opinion, but that's about it, right?

Like, if I call a kid at school names or make fun of him, it doesn't do anyone any good.

If you called the kid " a bad-tempered menace " and he ends up burning your house, you can always say "I told you so, I was telling the truth etc" which can eventually benefit your cause.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

People tend to forget opinions they have heard and spoken opinions don't have the same impact as does a visual media source. When this film is released, the main audience would be Islamaphobes and this distorted film will just heighten their mentality.

I aint against freedom of speech/opinion, however in my view, the creation of films and other media tools do far more damage, and exceed the freedom of speech.

http://www.islamicboard.com/exchange-links/56515-turning-west-into-muslim-majority.html
http://masjidi.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=27&func=view&catid=3&id=237#237

Summary

To do dawah to the UK's non muslim population. And help them understand Islam.

We will do this by doing a mass dawah project, once we have the masjidi projected completed, for development of 1000 masjid sites, we will have a very large mailing list, we will be collecting funds for this project.

We will be doing a mail shot to 27 million households in the UK with a booklet on Islam, removing misconceptions, helping non muslims learn about Islam and will also put a DVD filled with audio, video and interactive learning.

What are your thoughts on this?

Mods, this is not off topic..

 

[Mikayeel]

Aha, zo.

Geen idee. Er is wel veel ophef over maar of de film daadwerkelijk zoveel aandacht toekomt; geen idee. We shall see, of helemaal niet. Misschien is er helemaal geen film, who knows.

Dat hoop ik maar, dat er helemaal geen film komt!, dan hoeft er niemand dood te gaan

 

[truemuslim]

^ sorry to get of topic here...but..what language is that? jw

 

[Whatsthepoint]

^ sorry to get of topic here...but..what language is that? jw

It's dutch. Yous should be able to understand some of it, as it has some similarities to English.

 

[snakelegs]

i watched the video.
i think he is probably voicing opinions and fears held by a number of europeans as they come to terms with a different culture in their midst. he is certainly entitled to his opinion, but i can see no reason to attack and label the qur'an and that strikes me as deliberately provoking for political gain, hoping some muslims will "go off" and make good tv in order to scare some more europeans some more and drive up support for right wing parties.

 

[minaz]

http://www.islamicboard.com/exchange-links/56515-turning-west-into-muslim-majority.html
http://masjidi.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=27&func=view&catid=3&id=237#237


What are your thoughts on this?

Mods, this is not off topic..

I saw the thread on the main page but didn't click on it a few days back, sounds rather interesting. In Britain, we have always had Jehovah Witnesses post literature door to door and even come round for a chat (i guess its the same in some other countries- especially the US), I have also encountered mormons (many who come to spread their word from Utah) and they always give me the book of mormon (i think i've had 3 in my time!).
Anywho I don't know the content of the material on the DVD, but I suspect it does not have 'propaganda' or 'jihadi music' in the background If they do circulate 27million of these DVDs, the content would have to be basic- through the basics of islam, misconceptions can be ridden.

I see nothing wrong with the DVD if its content is truthful, something no doubt Wilders motion will lack.