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    Hi, I am a strong believer in British culture and democracy, and am relatively new to politics and religion in general. I keep coming across statistics that shows Islam to be the fastest growing religion on Earth as well as in humble old Britain. What concerns me is I keep discovering references that Muslims believe they will one day rule the world, or are at least are inclined to promote and educate Islam to the Western world.

    I am not one for jumping to conclusions and I understand that there are many facets of Islam as well as many misconceptions and 'outliers'. So I thought best to ask here what is the general consensus on this statement with moderate and "extremist" Muslims?

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    There's no such thing as 'British Culture' anymore. It is more or less the same as general western commericalism in general.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    What about the guy who has his heart broken by the girl not being loyal? This does happen, but you recover and move on. You are not bound to stay with your first love your entire life, although you'd be lucky to find Mr/Ms Right. The belief is love after love
    Well thankfully I have my love and intend to keep him. That heartache and process of moving on is soul-destroying. Take my word for it I've been though it. Then i tried th Islamic way and married a practicing Muslim guy -Never been happier!
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by mystical_moon View Post
    No I wasn't talking about the EDL assumption. Right so let me understand this. Apart of British Culture is Christianity which you don't follow because you don't have to follow every aspect of it (according to you) but you can be an atheist but not Muslim? But neither of those is apart of British Culture. So why is it ok to be atheist but not muslim according to you?

    And you didn't answer my question.
    Because Islam has no place in British culture, the British religion is Christianity, if you follow something else you cannot be British as it undermines.

    Sorry, which question? I am having to reply to many lines of argument here it's quite difficult not to miss something.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    Because Islam has no place in British culture, the British religion is Christianity, if you follow something else you cannot be British as it undermines.
    So being atheist then... suggests you are calling yourself not British, based on that line which you wrote above.
    You're going around in circles pal.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    It is the culture that you identify with, I for instance with British, a wearer of a hijab is Muslim, and they have a very different culture coming by way of their religion. If you associate with British culture, you cannot be a Muslim, you would be Christian or an Atheist.
    Essentially what you are saying is that Muslims cannot be part of British culture because they are not promiscuous enough. I doubt many Brits subscribe to your version of British culture.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by Alpha Dude View Post
    But it's not particularly historically British behaviour either is it? Something alien is thrown upon you and you don't challenge it, nor see it as an erosion of what British culture really stands for? Why the double standards?
    Actually, you are wrong. Brothels and prostitutes are very common in British heritage despite what the ideals of the times would want you to believe. Modern British culture is far more tolerant, and it fit's more closely with my humanistic beliefs. Equally incest was relatively common and accepted in traditional British culture, highly highly frowned upon today. The Royal family were highly interbred until of late in British history.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by mystical_moon View Post
    So being atheist then... suggests you are calling yourself not British, based on that line which you wrote above.
    You're going around in circles pal.
    If you follow my posts observably without false heuristics you will see no circles. I see a number of attempts now to claim my beliefs fallacious, a blatant attempt at certifying a victory of some sort on your part as well as showing your true nature that you are in fact just arguing tit for tat.
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    Actually, you are wrong. Brothels and prostitutes are very common in British heritage despite what the ideals of the times would want you to believe. Modern British culture is far more tolerant, and it fit's more closely with my humanistic beliefs.
    Lol. Wow. You're comparing women of today to prostitutes of the past? I can't say these women would be pleased. Haha.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    If you follow my posts observably without false heuristics you will see no circles. I see a number of attempts now to claim my beliefs fallacious, a blatant attempt at certifying a victory of some sort on your part as well as showing your true nature that you are in fact just arguing tit for tat.
    I don't think that was her point. More you saying British Culture is Christianity, yet you are an atheist who is worried about British culture being taken over by Islam
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    If you associate with British culture, you cannot be a Muslim, you would be Christian or an Atheist.
    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    Because Islam has no place in British culture, the British religion is Christianity, if you follow something else you cannot be British as it undermines.
    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    Actually, you are wrong. Brothels and prostitutes are very common in British heritage despite what the ideals of the times would want you to believe. Modern British culture is far more tolerant, and it fit's more closely with my humanistic beliefs. Equally incest was relatively common and accepted in traditional British culture, highly highly frowned upon today. The Royal family were highly interbred until of late in British history.
    These are all contradictions. You first say you can be athiest and then you say only Christianity is British. Now you are saying that British culture is tolerant when it comes to brothels and being promiscuous. You do know that this is against what Christianity teaches right? So, seriously, make up your mind.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    If you follow my posts observably without false heuristics you will see no circles. I see a number of attempts now to claim my beliefs fallacious, a blatant attempt at certifying a victory of some sort on your part as well as showing your true nature that you are in fact just arguing tit for tat.
    Well I just quoted your post, there are no false heuristics. I see you avoid another question. If you can't answer my questions or admit you said something incorrect,then that is fine.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by Dagless View Post
    These are all contradictions. You first say you can be athiest and then you say only Christianity is British. Now you are saying that British culture is tolerant when it comes to brothels and being promiscuous. You do know that this is against what Christianity teaches right? So, seriously, make up your mind.
    Thank you Dagless, my point exactly.

    Lets not feed the EDL troll.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by mystical_moon View Post
    Thank you Dagless, my point exactly.

    Lets not feed the EDL troll.
    Sis there is no need for that.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    Because Islam has no place in British culture, the British religion is Christianity, if you follow something else you cannot be British as it undermines.
    Let me break it to you in simpler terms so you can understand.

    Christanity is not a mandated religion of the state, it is a dominate religion as for now. Islam is the fastest growing religion and tomorrow it may be the dominate religion in Britian. All this means for you is less drinking buddies and girls for fornication, less crime, teen pregnancies, gangs and a better society over all. No, Muslims are going to come over and take over, when your own people find the truth in Islam and adopt it as their way of life then your "culture" will change on its own as the society's norms and values change over time. Back in the 30s/40s young college age girls used to do social dating as way of finding a mate, today we see 11yr olds spreading their legs for you. Is this the culture you value? Don't hold onto your culture so blindly, change can be for good or bad and so far it is has been bad, maybe it'll be good once more of your British folks find islam as their way of life and adopt new values and norms, freeing your society of the ills prevalent today in the name of "liberalism".

    As for the hijab thing, I suggest you stop feeling sorry for them and thinking they are deprived unless you plan to take all the nuns out on the street and strip them naked and have them start fornicating for the pleasure of life and living free. What a person wears is their personal choice and if they are doing it out of their faith and commitment to their Lord then it would be hypocritical of you to see them as deprived while viewing your christian nuns as "devoted".

    You started off good with this thread but now are heading down the path of ignorant and arrogant trolls we see here now and then...
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by AhlaamBella View Post
    Sis there is no need for that.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by mystical_moon View Post
    We shall see
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    There is the issue of The House of Islam , which is any countries under Muslim rule and The House of war (or strife?) which is Kuffaar lands.
    Some muslims as the bro's and sisters have said, think that the end times are happening right now, and thus its the duty to bring the house of war to the house of submission.
    Others think that this will happen AFTER the antichrist arrives, thus theres no need for action at present.

    The only other point to mention is many muslims adhere to the doctrine that any land that once was in the house of Islam is legally Islamic in perpetuity. Thus Spain and most of France fit this bill.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by British_Patriot View Post
    I do not associate with anything called EDL so your assumptions are highly unfounded.

    It is the culture that you identify with, I for instance with British, a wearer of a hijab is Muslim, and they have a very different culture coming by way of their religion. If you associate with British culture, you cannot be a Muslim, you would be Christian or an Atheist.
    Well of course you can't. British culture (by how you define it) is getting drunk, laid and pregnant. Everything in Islam is to protect the followers, not stop them from enjoying "Humanness". We can be human too, and we are.
    We can do everything you can do to survive. Humanness is enjoying what is given to you, and i don't think beer and wine was given to us when man first started. Similarly, there has always been the issue of prostitutes and you say that British culture makes women "free" how you put it, but i don't think working as a prostitute would be what i want. I'm pretty sure most of them do it because they are desperate for money, and because they are uneducated slags that dropped school at the age of 13 because they got pregnant every other week, they have no education and most likely don't care about having one, telling by their actions, so would resort to going so low as to selling your body for money. I think Muslims girls will not want to go so low. There probably are some Muslim people who do do stuff like this, but those are the ones who have been "Westerised" by your magnificant and glorious "culture". If we feel the need to protect ourselves and take precautions as well as embrace our religion and faith, we should be free to do so, just like you are free to say "There is no God." and do whatever you **** well please.

    Now before you post anymore, i suggest your read up some proper information on Islam, and not just get the information from Islamophobic websites. Have a nice day.
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    being british and being a muslim has nothing to do with each other, its ur emaan that counts, u can be british but its ur innerself that can control wat u believe.
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    Re: 'Muslims will rule the world'

    format_quote Originally Posted by UnhappyD: View Post

    Now before you post anymore, i suggest your read up some proper information on Islam, and not just get the information from Islamophobic websites. Have a nice day.
    I'll second that!
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