Darwin himself didn't believe in his own theory lol.
But let's put that to the side for now and investigate the fallacy which is called dawrinism:
Did you catch Aron Ra's lie? He got stick for that from the scientific community, in case you didn't know!
But let's not move past your claim that evolution is a fact - it has clearly been proven that it is not a "fact".
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The fact that you don't have a clue about the actual origins of this universe based on empiricism?
I don't think that empiricism is a a good stance for discerning the origins of the universe, since what judaic-christian religious would tell us intelligent design, but what we observe in our world isn't anything remotely close to intelligent design. It also leads to a "leap of faith" if you will on your part. First you have to assert god, then you have to actually prove WHICH god. The jump to the Ihe judaic-chritian god is just as viable as the Buddhist god.
We don't even claim that, you got it wrong. Our position is axiomatic. God exists and we know this! Simple. We don't have to use any method to prove God exists, when there are signs all around us but only discernible to those who have a sound intellect. Not trying to belittle your one trick pony argument, but your hubris remains highly unjustified by the bar you yourself set as someone who holds "science" as his method for understanding his existence. The fallacy appears in the fact that before the revival of the scientific method, you would claim no one could work out their raison d'etre. Funny thing is, I don't see an example of this from history because people were not having existential crisis due to their investment in their belief in God.
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The fact that you use linguistic gymnastics which do not even appeal to sanity in order to push theories as supposedly well established fact?
I don't use linguistic gymnastics, every question anyone has ever asked me has been answered or rebutted head on. Nail and hammer.
To further this, I would say that you've employed a lot more linguistic gymnastics than I have, especially since you can't seem to talk about those awful verses in your holy scripture.
You're about to claim ad hominem aren't ya? I can see it, because you are a typical misotheist. That's no ad hominem, that's a factual observation! You don't have to like it, but the truth is never convenient. I would know, I used to be an apostate and atheist in my late teens to mid twenties!
Let me explain, for the purpose of clarifying to you, what a misotheist is - it's someone who claims he or she is an atheist, but actually beleives God exists yet hates God - thus, they spend their time attempting to refute the reason for God.
What's cute, is the fact that you can't admit this.
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your hubris is cute, but it's also cliche. Which makes it the same tired drivel.
I think that your constant spew of ad hominem would say more about your hubris than mine, friend
Let's not get ahead of ourselves here, I'm not your "friend"... your repetitive drivel oft pops up on this forum if you do a search. Previous members who identified with atheism spewed the same nonsense... one or two are still regular members but they, in their honesty, wanted to learn about Islam so they do not "straw man" a Muslim. I can respect that! You on the other hand, I cannot! You're full of straw men!
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One more fact, i've clearly rattled your cage for you to join here with an handle like "AntiScimitar" you got my attention, but i'm disappointed in your rhetoric!
No, I chose the moniker AntiScimitar because I figured it would be the best way to get your attention. Put something up in your face that you honestly can't ignore. Seems to be working.
Yeah, you got my attention, but it was short lived - now you're just boring me!
Bring me a fresh argument, something that hasn't been debunked already! If I respond, it will be because I got excited - but if I don't, know this - you didn't try hard enough!
peace
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