Christian women are required to cover our heads!!

format_quote Originally Posted by Light of Heaven

Yes, it burns my precious little eyes. I don't want to see that O.o

About Headcovering, I was recently talking to my Grandmother about my conversion, I brought up the topic of hijab, she had problems with me covering, she said "we don't do that in america", then brought up many excuses trying to convince me not to wear it, such as, it's hot, people would harass me, other Muslim women are trying not to wear it, but I told her the bible mentions covering the head, her reply was "where?" (in the bible), she said "if its in the Old testament, we don't follow that" I said it's in the New testament, she didn't even know.

format_quote Originally Posted by Light of Heaven

^^ loool Glad u found it funny.

MashaAllah sis welcome to Islam
May Allah guide ur grandmother, ameen!

Ameen, thanks sis

Very very interesting post and site you left, ragdoll1982 and ty

format_quote Originally Posted by grace seeker

regarding the behavior of christian women there seems to be no problem ridiculing the idea that some might practice, in your own words, "covering their head yet baring their bosoms!" it is my belief my belief that this sort of odd behavior is not limited to christians but can be found even in islam. Rather than mock those who fall prey to this perverted view of self-worth that finds it only in putting one's body on display, hiding from the fact that these are realities among some of the young people in virtually every faith system, or regretting that others bring these behaviors to light, maybe it would be better to pray for those who are being led astray into such unrighteous behaviors that they might return to the path that god has willed for their lives.

bravo!!!!

format_quote Originally Posted by glo

Interesting how your grandmother seems more concerned with how you have changed on the outside than how your beliefs about God have changed on the inside ...

Well, she was accepting of it, from her own words, she believes no matter what religion one is, we're all "children of God." she knows we believe in Jesus, I don't think she knows about our other beliefs about him though (not the son of God..etc), if she did, she'll go crazy, so I won't go there with her yet since I'm living with her :X lol

It is not a disgrace for women to cut their hair and so they do not need to cover their heads ever!!

1 Corinthians
6If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head.

format_quote Originally Posted by Follower

It is not a disgrace for women to cut their hair and so they do not need to cover their heads ever!!

1 Corinthians
6If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head.

Actually, I think you have drawn a conclusion from this different than what Paul intended. It seems to me that Paul is writing from the position of an apriori assumption that it is indeed a disgrace for a woman to have a shaved head, that is why he states the second half of that sentence as he does: "If it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off [and, Paul would say, it is], then she should cover her head." Thus making Paul's point even stronger that he actually intends to shame women into covering their head by cutting off (not just cutting short) the hair of any woman who does not cover it.

Again, I think that was something that arose out of the culture in which he lived and is not a statement that is meant to be universally applicable. But I do think that in 1st century Corinth Paul saw it is an issue he felt very strongly about that women should have covered heads, and that is what he is affirming in this verse. A view which is quite the opposite of what you have inferred.

format_quote Originally Posted by All4Allaah08

About Headcovering, I was recently talking to my Grandmother about my conversion, I brought up the topic of hijab, she had problems with me covering, she said "we don't do that in america", then brought up many excuses trying to convince me not to wear it, such as, it's hot, people would harass me, other Muslim women are trying not to wear it, but I told her the bible mentions covering the head, her reply was "where?" (in the bible), she said "if its in the Old testament, we don't follow that" I said it's in the New testament, she didn't even know.

I am a Chrisitan hijabi and at this point my whole family has disowned me for wearing hijab and my abayas ( I love them so much!!!) . A month ago I ran into one of my paternal aunts(dads brothers wife) and this time I was not covered, but dressed modestly though and she told me that I look so much prettier than "covered in all of that garb":raging I am "too pretty " to be dressing like that. I told her it isnt about me not liking my appearance, it is about obeying the commands of God and I even gave her bible refernaces, not good enough. Last week I ran into her again, covered and she told me I was "unAmerican" and that I have "defied" her advice. I told her I am 26 years old a married women and a mother and I will dress how I darned well please. She told me I was not welcome at her home or in any family gatherings including holidays until I come to my senses and give up this nonsense. I have nothing to do with my mom or her family, but that is not for my religion or dress reasons.

format_quote Originally Posted by Light of Heaven

Women were covered way before Paul though, were they not? Whether it was Pauls idea or not, should women not take the example of the women such as Mary if they think they want to be good followers?

Yes sister we should.

format_quote Originally Posted by ragdollcat1982

Yes sister we should.

subhanallah sister, I truly admire the strength of your faith and your commitment to please only GOD, you are a true inspiration for all believers muslims and non-muslims alike. May ALLAH bless your soul.

format_quote Originally Posted by ragdollcat1982

I told her I am 26 years old a married women and a mother and I will dress how I darned well please. She told me I was not welcome at her home or in any family gatherings including holidays until I come to my senses and give up this nonsense. I have nothing to do with my mom or her family, but that is not for my religion or dress reasons.

Ragdoll, I'm sorry to hear of the conflict in your family. They are trying to force their own cultural standards on to you. They are standards that, should they look at them from outside themselves, they would see are completely secular in nature. They say that you are unAmerican. Yet, the American Constitution gives you the freedom to express yourself in your speech and dress however you so desire as long as it doesn't interfere with another person's liberty. Sadly, they are the one's who are unAmerican as they don't even understand that this country is about principles that give the very freedom they would deny you. But fortunately, because what is and is not truly American is determined by law and not their opinion, they have, as you pointed out above, no authority to impose their will on you.

Even though I, personally, don't agree with your conclusion on the necessity of wearing the hijab, these other women are the one's who are actually in the wrong here.

Sadly, I do suspect they may be so stubborn as to hold to their ill-conceived thinking a long time. But there childlike behavior is no reason that you should change your mind on what is right and wrong simply because they are in effect throwing a tantrum. If you believe that wearing the hijab is the right thing to do because it is God's will, then no person should stand in your way of following what you believe God has instructed you to do, even if it costs you your family.

Praying for you, and that they may see the light.

format_quote Originally Posted by ragdollcat1982

I am a Chrisitan hijabi and at this point my whole family has disowned me for wearing hijab and my abayas ( I love them so much!!!) . A month ago I ran into one of my paternal aunts(dads brothers wife) and this time I was not covered, but dressed modestly though and she told me that I look so much prettier than "covered in all of that garb":raging I am "too pretty " to be dressing like that. I told her it isnt about me not liking my appearance, it is about obeying the commands of God and I even gave her bible refernaces, not good enough. Last week I ran into her again, covered and she told me I was "unAmerican" and that I have "defied" her advice. I told her I am 26 years old a married women and a mother and I will dress how I darned well please. She told me I was not welcome at her home or in any family gatherings including holidays until I come to my senses and give up this nonsense. I have nothing to do with my mom or her family, but that is not for my religion or dress reasons.

Wow, thats good to hear that you cover, Allah bless you. That lady sounds like my family, they also says I'm "too pretty" to cover, that my hair looks beautiful and I should show it, lol, also by saying it doesn't look good. But at the end of the day, we all cover for Allah, to please and obey Him, not other people

format_quote Originally Posted by All4Allaah08

Wow, thats good to hear that you cover, Allah bless you. That lady sounds like my family, they also says I'm "too pretty" to cover, that my hair looks beautiful and I should show it, lol, also by saying it doesn't look good. But at the end of the day, we all cover for Allah, to please and obey Him, not other people

I was raised by my maternal aunt and uncle who had custody of me. My dads family had me for a month in the summer. My dads sisters were mere children when I was born, they thought I was a doll instead of a human they would dress me up and paint my face up and fix my hair. As I got to be a teenager after I came to live with my mom they would put provactivly clothing on me, paint my face up like Jezaebel and they seem to make sure they did this when MEN were visiting usually freinds of my dad or boys my age. I looked like a harlot and many times these men would come onto me and of course I rejected them and if they left my aunts would accuse me of being unfriendly to these men, they were company in the South hospitality is important and I should have sat down on their lap if they insisted after all they were being friendly and didnt mean any harm I can think they were trying to marry me off and my father never stepped in and said a word about this. So I guess that is why now I feel the call to cover because I dont like being exploited and looked at like a piece of meat. I am married but if I were not I would want a man to judge me for my charachter, not my looks.

format_quote Originally Posted by All4Allaah08

Wow, thats good to hear that you cover, Allah bless you. That lady sounds like my family, they also says I'm "too pretty" to cover, that my hair looks beautiful and I should show it, lol, also by saying it doesn't look good. But at the end of the day, we all cover for Allah, to please and obey Him, not other people

I guess sister if we were ugly they would not object to us covering