so after all the evidence what argument can u non muslim possibly bring that jesus was crucified???? what prove u have that a human is god??? u people dont even know your own scriptures even and he is a muslim and he knows every single verse he can quote no problem. your arguments that u bring on LI against us make no sense at all when u try and explain what the bible really means i just laugh at u pple are trying so hard lol
so after all the evidence what argument can u non muslim possibly bring that jesus was crucified???? what prove u have that a human is god??? u people dont even know your own scriptures even and he is a muslim and he knows every single verse he can quote no problem. your arguments that u bring on LI against us make no sense at all when u try and explain what the bible really means i just laugh at u pple are trying so hard lol
I don't want get into a discussion now, but let's just say it takes more than a biased YouTube video to discredit 2,000 of Church theology, history and apologetics.
islam is the second largest religion in your country united kingdom and more and more pple reverting every year who knows maybe the Queen will revert
I doubt it, the current rules in place discriminate against a Catholic Head of State, what chance would a Muslim Head of State have?
I had a feeling you're joking
That was correct.
Cat eyes, tell me, is the purpose of this thread to promote dawah amongst the Christian community here (which is what comparitive religion is for) or to cast doubts out of the minds of fellow Muslims?
I don't want get into a discussion now, but let's just say it takes more than a biased YouTube video to discredit 2,000 of Church theology, history and apologetics.:statisfi
you don't want to get into the discussion cos you cannot answer me thats why and ive heard it all before
no i like doing dawah face to face because i like to see them taking the shahada when the evidence in put in front of them
I don't think us Muslim's are in doubt, I mean why would we be in doubt cos of a bible that contains contradictions and errors, so much so that they have to release new versions every time they've removed an error from it, how can something from God be edited by men, and how can a book of God contain errors and contradictions :S
God is perfect, it is men who make errors and contradictions in their attempt to distort the truth
its possible to disprove crucifixion just by thinking logically - can god die? can god be a man? no and no. if God came down on earth then there would be no doubt left in the matter, there would be no need for belief.
I don't think us Muslim's are in doubt, I mean why would we be in doubt cos of a bible that contains contradictions and errors, so much so that they have to release new versions every time they've removed an error from it, how can something from God be edited by men, and how can a book of God contain errors and contradictions :S
God is perfect, it is men who make errors and contradictions in their attempt to distort the truth
Aslamu alaaykum..
Jesus was cleearly not Crucified as told in the Bible from this Verse Also..
22"Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. 23This man was handed over to you by God's set purpose and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men,[b] put him to death by nailing him to the cross. 24But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him. (Acts)
Wa alaaykum Salaam
"Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), Al-Hayyul-Qayyum (the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists).".."[Al Qur'aan 3:2]
you don't want to get into the discussion cos you cannot answer me thats why and ive heard it all before
Fair enough.
no i like doing dawah face to face because i like to see them taking the shahada when the evidence in put in front of them
So do I, which is why you'll never catch me creating a thread with a link to YouTube in a desperate bid to convert people of other faiths (or spreading the Good News/Word as other Christians would call it).
can god die?
This is a problem. If God cannot die, He is not omnipotent as He does not have the power to kill Himself. If God can die, then He is not immortal.
Aslamu alaaykum..
Jesus was cleearly not Crucified as told in the Bible from this Verse Also..
22"Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. 23This man was handed over to you by God's set purpose and foreknowledge; and you, with the help of wicked men,[b] put him to death by nailing him to the cross. 24But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him. (Acts)
Wa alaaykum Salaam
How does this state Jesus was not crucified? It explains Him being nailed to a cross...
If Jesus Died on the Cross, then its reffered to "Crucification" if not then he wasnt. read it properly,
24But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him.
And Jesus is Not God!!Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.
"Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), Al-Hayyul-Qayyum (the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists).".."[Al Qur'aan 3:2]
Very true sister, yet we have many of the christian people believing in this...
May Allah guide them all!
Ameen Ameen Allahuma Ameen
"Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), Al-Hayyul-Qayyum (the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists).".."[Al Qur'aan 3:2]
If Jesus Died on the Cross, then its reffered to "Crucification" if not then he wasnt. read it properly,
24But God raised him from the dead, freeing him from the agony of death, because it was impossible for death to keep its hold on him.
And Jesus is Not God!!Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.
I still don't get it (I'm tired and kinda in the middle of celebrating New Year's)- the passage you quoted explicitly stated He was nailed to a cross, which is crucifixion. You know crucifixion is being nailed to a cross right?
But he didnt die on the Cross!!! according to the verse
"Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), Al-Hayyul-Qayyum (the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists).".."[Al Qur'aan 3:2]
But he didnt die on the Cross!!! according to the verse
And the other part of the "Passage" shows that Jesus was a Man
"Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), Al-Hayyul-Qayyum (the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists).".."[Al Qur'aan 3:2]
the message of All the prophets was worship 1 god alone, he has no partners, God is one.
I find it so strange that people can believe Jesus as gods partner when all the messengers and prophets before him preached "The lord your god is one god thou shall not set up partners in worship to him"
why would God contradict himself later with Jesus it just don't make sense to me at all I'm afraid.
I don't believe God would have a son because having children is beneath him, I don't know how to explain it,
it's like a great king marrying an animal and impregnating that animal and saying that animal is his son lol. even though that's not possible lol.
but that's why I find it so hard to believe how can a great God have a son, like the rest of us, God is above us and better than us. He doesn't reproduce like we reproduce. He doesn't reproduce at all, he especially doesn't reproduce through the act of sex and impregnating astagfirullah.
who is Jesus's grand father? was Mary married to god for her to have his son?
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