Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Raheem
As-Salaamu ‘alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuhu
I recently read a book, The Truth about the Bible. In that book, the Bible has been exposed. This book is so good that if anyone reads it, he can defeat any Christian or Jew scholar in religious discussion or debate. Every Muslim, especially those who meet Christians and Jews regularly, should read this book and should gift it to their Christian and Jew friends. This book has the following Topics:
An Introduction to the Bible
The Concept of God in the Bible
The Prophets according to the Bible
Incest in the Bible
Pornography in the Bible
Alcohol Addiction in the Bible
The Concept of Slavery in the Bible
The Concept of Polygamy in the Bible
Violence in the Bible
The Status of Woman
Contradictions and Errors in the Bible
The Prophecies about Prophet Muhammed (s.a.w.s.) in the Bible
You can see the details about the Book here: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/690285
Please let me know in comments if this post is useful for you.
Was- Salaamu ‘alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuhu
Every time I see threads such as this created, as useful and interesting as it is to me, it still rings something disturbing in me… almost, like, somewhere in the hollow background there is a sigh… it is like, in reverse, a recent thread about a new muslim watching ex muslims bash islam… it is like we are readying ourselves to go and 'pick fight', when actually for me, I would tell it a different way.
Allah made/created/whatever else.. everything and us. As we learnt 'collectively, through civilization and revolution and whatever, prophets were sent to remind us, collectively. That there was a Divine Design to the messages, sent in stages, teaching man what he knew not.
Starting from Adam there were 4 Books for mankind. The Zabur (Psalms) about connection with Allah, the Taurat (Torah) about human interaction, Injil (Bible) introduces forgiveness and the Holy Qur'an encapsulates it by giving laws on community. Hence, if followed, the Jews, who are in control of the world economy, politics, laws, media/progaganda, money, etc etc etc, would have been following Allah's laws. THEY WERE the ones who should have followed Isa (Jesus) pbuh, they couldn't because "NO!" to usury. They had strayed from the path of Allah and the message of Musa (Moses) pbuh, Jesus told them so. Hence they rejected Jesus and the 'truth' at that time will have followers, it became a second religion.
The Jews (some will say Paul (Saul)) infiltrated the Christians and caused much damage. And the Jews tried again during prophet Muhammad's (saw) time..so strong their influence, the Christians didn't follow the holy prophet and it became three different religions, and the Jews carry on still..
I mostly try to tell them, don't stop with the third Book, (if I ever get into these kinds of talk) read the finish part, the final chapter, so to speak.
Invite, not challenge. Because to me, it is mind boggling, the simplicity of it all… and the truth if we open up to see. Satan the accursed's solemn oath that he will lead man astray is not a thing to be taken lightly. Look at the world around and we can see it blots out any thought of the hereafter. It is all about the dunya! Satan has done great job! He has had since Adam (pbuh) to plot man's path. We? Only our lifetime to realize . . so read the final Book!
It seems the 'Truth about the Bible' is written by a Muslim Scholar.
If I wanted to find out the truth about Islam, then I would not ask a Christian. I have not read the complete Qur'an, but I do read a lot of what you guys post, and when I read it, I try and search for the best possible interpretation. I can see no point in reading from the Qur'an, with the thought of finding fault.
When I clicked that link to the book and searched the text of it, I found from the beginning a claim that almost 99% of the Christians never read the Bible. How the writer might know it so sure? It felt to me quite big amount anyways.
Page 5 (of 144):
Most Christians, almost 99% of Christians, never read the Bible.
When I clicked that link to the book and searched the text of it, I found from the beginning a claim that almost 99% of the Christians never read the Bible. How the writer might know it so sure? It felt to me quite big amount anyways.
Page 5 (of 144):
Is not true if almost 99% Christians never read the Bible. The truth is, almost 99% non-Christians never read the Bible.
It seems the 'Truth about the Bible' is written by a Muslim Scholar.
If I wanted to find out the truth about Islam, then I would not ask a Christian. I have not read the complete Qur'an, but I do read a lot of what you guys post, and when I read it, I try and search for the best possible interpretation. I can see no point in reading from the Qur'an, with the thought of finding fault.
In the spirit of searching for God.
Eric
If a Muslim scholar knows more about the Bible than a Christian, why should you still follow the Christian?
You always end your posts with "in the spirit of searching for God" or "the unity of God". That's great but do not stop searching when you find something that displeases you. The Bible is no longer the word of God but don't take my word for it. Read it, read around it, study it and you will see that these great comparative religion scholars are right in their assessment of the modern Bible. After all that may you truly find Allah.
When I clicked that link to the book and searched the text of it, I found from the beginning a claim that almost 99% of the Christians never read the Bible. How the writer might know it so sure? It felt to me quite big amount anyways.
Page 5 (of 144):
Coming to a number like that is impossible without in depth, global research but if you meet Christians in the modern western world, how many have actually read the Bible? I've met Christians in London who don't even know why Christmas or Easter is celebrated and I had to teach them.
Most Christians are simply Christians by name, i.e. that is their identification but I as a Muslim probably know more about the Bible than the vast majority of Christians I have met in Britain, France, Germany, the US and Canada. Most Christians I know don't even know that the Bible forbids swine flesh. Just a couple of examples to ponder.
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The Bible is no longer the word of God but don't take my word for it. Read it, read around it, study it and you will see that these great comparative religion scholars are right in their assessment of the modern Bible.
I have read the Bible many times, and I believe it comes from God, that is as much as I want to say.
After all that may you truly find Allah
Allah chooses whom he wills, he could have created everyone as a Muslim, and given us all the Quran. But we are all created by the same God, and the same God hears all our prayers, despite our differences. I don't believe that God made a mistake when he made you a Muslim and me a Catholic. Do I really have to convert you to my Catholic faith? Or can there be a greater purpose for our seemingly diverse beliefs?
In the spirit of searching for a greater meaning of 'One God'
Eric
You will never look into the eyes of anyone who does not matter to God.
Coming to a number like that is impossible without in depth, global research but if you meet Christians in the modern western world, how many have actually read the Bible? I've met Christians in London who don't even know why Christmas or Easter is celebrated and I had to teach them. Most Christians are simply Christians by name, i.e. that is their identification but I as a Muslim probably know more about the Bible than the vast majority of Christians I have met in Britain, France, Germany, the US and Canada. Most Christians I know don't even know that the Bible forbids swine flesh. Just a couple of examples to ponder.
perhaps they aren't interested in religious knowledge
perhaps they aren't interested in religious knowledge
My response was in regards to someone claiming 99% of Christians not reading the BIble being a bit off. And you are correct, they are not interested in religious knowledge, hence no Bible reading. Of course the 99% figure is impossible to verify but the majority of Christians don't even know the basics of their religion, ie Christmas and Easter, at a particular age anyway.
I have read the Bible many times, and I believe it comes from God, that is as much as I want to say.
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Allah chooses whom he wills, he could have created everyone as a Muslim, and given us all the Quran.[/B] But we are all created by the same God, and the same God hears all our prayers, despite our differences. I don't believe that God made a mistake when he made you a Muslim and me a Catholic. Do I really have to convert you to my Catholic faith? Or can there be a greater purpose for our seemingly diverse beliefs?
In the spirit of searching for a greater meaning of 'One God'
Eric
He has given everyone the Quran. In the modern world, especially in the west, you can access the Quran just about anywhere and from anywhere.
With regards to "Allah guides whom he wills" that is certainly true but it is not an arbitrary picking and choosing. Allah guides those who are actively searching for the truth. You take one step, He runs towards you as the saying goes.
Allah guides those who are actively searching for the truth. You take one step, He runs towards you as the saying goes.
I have had four profound encounters, that should have led to death, and on each occasion I believe God intervened. In that sense, I have experienced God running towards me.
I sense that you have a strong faith, and that Allah has run towards you.
In the spirit of praying to a just and merciful God.
I have had four profound encounters, that should have led to death, and on each occasion I believe God intervened. In that sense, I have experienced God running towards me.
I sense that you have a strong faith, and that Allah has run towards you.
In the spirit of praying to a just and merciful God.
Eric
i have no idea why my notifications aren't popping up so I apologise if my replies are late.
I am curious, what is God to you, is he Jesus? I only ask because your bio says you are Christian. Is it Jesus that has saved you or do you make a distinction between God and his messenger?
i have no idea why my notifications aren't popping up so I apologise if my replies are late.
Please don't feel the need to apologise, there are no time limits expected for any reply.
I am curious, what is God to you, is he Jesus?
He is God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit.
God is beyond my understanding in so many ways, especially in the ways he seems to reveal himself. I listen to Muslims on this forum, and it is clear to me that you have a profound faith and trust in Allah. This can only come from the same God who has given me a Catholic faith. This may seem like a conflict between us, but I see it as a challenge set by God, how do we each get on with each other, despite our very real differences in religion?
Prayer, charity, mercy, kindness, patience, forgiveness, justice and peace.
In the spirit of praying to a just and merciful God.
Eric
You will never look into the eyes of anyone who does not matter to God.
Please don't feel the need to apologise, there are no time limits expected for any reply.
He is God the Father, God the Son and God the Spirit.
God is beyond my understanding in so many ways, especially in the ways he seems to reveal himself. I listen to Muslims on this forum, and it is clear to me that you have a profound faith and trust in Allah. This can only come from the same God who has given me a Catholic faith. This may seem like a conflict between us, but I see it as a challenge set by God, how do we each get on with each other, despite our very real differences in religion?
Prayer, charity, mercy, kindness, patience, forgiveness, justice and peace.
In the spirit of praying to a just and merciful God.
Eric
But in truly praying to God you must know what/who you are praying to? So if Jesus is the son of God how do you reconcile that with the message of the Quran, from the same God as you claim, which says it is the greatest sin to label Jesus as the son of God and to attribute partners in worship to God?
this is where following the correct revelation from God comes into it and thus I assume the reason for this thread
But in truly praying to God you must know what/who you are praying to? So if Jesus is the son of God how do you reconcile that with the message of the Quran, from the same God as you claim, which says it is the greatest sin to label Jesus as the son of God and to attribute partners in worship to God?
I keep saying that God is beyond my understanding, so I do not have a truthful answer to your question.
this is where following the correct revelation from God comes into it
I believe the Qur'an is the correct revelation for you, and you should strive to be the best possible Muslim that you can be. In the same way, I believe the Bible is the correct revelation for me, and I should strive to be the best Catholic that I can be.
Is this a contradiction for God, that he should reveal conflicting truths? Again, I do not know.
But what I do know, is that God seems to have given me convincing proof that the Bible I read, is the Bible he wants me to live by. There is one Jesus Christ, so it does not make any sense to me that there are thousands of fragmented Christian denominations that follow his word. It seems mankind is too stupid to follow one message in the same way.
and thus I assume the reason for this thread
This is how we see things differently, the opening post was written by a Muslim and as a benefit to Muslims. It seemed to me as if it was written to try and discredit the Bible. When I read anything from the Qur'an, I try and search for the best possible meaning, I read it in the hope of being able to learn from it, I do not read it with the intention of finding any faults.
May you and those you love and care for be blessed, and be a blessing to others.
Eric
You will never look into the eyes of anyone who does not matter to God.
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for sharing. Why don't you share the contents of book in this thread
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