religion gives rules, rules are needed for being civilised!
humans temptations allow them to give in and do that which is wrong. And hardly any human is strong enough to withstand temptation without an extremely strong reason... hence religion
Peace
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My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
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Do people need a religion in order to be good, humane, productive people?
of course
take 3 main religions for example
Moses peace be upon him was sent to a people to
Jesus peace be upon him was sent to a people
to Muhammed Peace and blessings be upon him was sent to mankind to teach us..
if Allah did not send down laws restriction then where would the rules come from? we would be ignorant/confused people. what would be right? wrong? what would be the purpose of life?
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Plus i have never started any wars unlike religion!
humans are such theyd fight over anything. take the colour of skin for example. that has nothing to do with religion right? yet it still exists today that the white is superior to the black .........men are superior to women... this all exists.
even today look at iraq being invaded- religion? maybe- greed-human greed? uh huh
Our Lord! Verily, we have heard the call of one calling to Faith: 'Believe in your Lord,' and we have believed.
Our Lord! Forgive us our sins and expiate from us our evil deeds, and make us die (in the state of righteousness) along with Al-Abrar
Productivity in terms of world yes a human can be successful and productive on this earth even without religion.
However one comes to realize sooner or later on in their life that they will die..and thus they question their existance and as to all that they have worked for will one day die either with them or with the end of this world....
So that is where the quest for seeking a creator begins....
many people come to the conclusion that there is no creator and that their only purpose of existance is to live and then one day die..
Others come to the conclusion of belief in God.
So according to Islam the real life is not this life but the life which is yet to come. This is a sample of the highs and lows of life, and a test upon humanity.
So in the end who believe shall be give eternal life and those who dont will be destroyed.
And now we come to the productivity aspect of it...in the sight of God the only productive actions are of those who believe in relation to the hereafter...wheras for those who dont believe they act out of selfish (for self pleasure and fulfilment) means and out of fear (of failure in front of people) will be recompnsed for their actions but shall not be given eternal life.
However people who work good believers or non believers shall be recompnsed by God. but only to the believers shall belong life eternal.
unfortunately i would say that a lot of people do indeed.
this is based on the fact that when many people find out that i follow no religion, i am asked what keeps me from killing people and all kinds of other similar stupid questions.
i think i am a decent human being without religion, but i guess some people are only decent out of fear.
each man thinks of his own fleas as gazelles
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One doesn't need religion to be good.
You may hold yourself to a strict moral teaching apart from God and be good in the sense of what society considers good.
The problem is, God looks past what society sees and examines our individual hearts. He knows our motivations, our desires, our temptations. While society may think we are moral and upright people, as the Pharisees were in the New Testament of the Christian Bible, we may be inwardly wicked and secretly hiding sin. Religious faith forces us to examine our innermost being and realize that we are sinful beings in need of a Savior.
My belief is that Christ didn't come into the world to make bad people into good people. He came into the world to make dead people live again. Good works, or outward goodness, won't save us, but good works should flow naturally from being saved.
God looks past what society sees and examines our individual hearts. He knows our motivations, our desires, our temptations... Religious faith forces us to examine our innermost being
I think everyone believes in something. If you, however, mean one of the major religions, that would be an empathetic "NO" from my corner. I meet many different people, and trust me, you don't have to be a Muslim or a Jew, a Christian or a Buddhist, to be a decent human being.
"We are arrows, loosed into eternity." - Aleksandr Men'.
"Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out..." - Paul McCartney.
religion gives rules, rules are needed for being civilised!
humans temptations allow them to give in and do that which is wrong. And hardly any human is strong enough to withstand temptation without an extremely strong reason... hence religion
Peace
As-salamu Alaykum,
I have to respectfully disagree. I don't think that religion makes us civilized. People are acting uncivilized now and some are active in their religion. I know people who don't follow any one religion but are good people. I am sure they struggle with temptation but I am Muslim and so do I.
For me I don't need religion.. I believe alot of religion is man made...I just need the word of God.
Though we need laws to keep order within a country and God tells us to obey those laws of the land where ever we should live..so we should do that..
If everyone would follow the laws God gave us the 10 commandments(for our own good) then Jesus broke down into the 2.
Mt 22:36 “[Jesus], which is the great commandment in the law?” And he said to him, ’You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets.”
...there would be no need for prisions, no more murders, rapes etc.. and no more hurt.
I have to respectfully disagree. I don't think that religion makes us civilized. People are acting uncivilized now and some are active in their religion. I know people who don't follow any one religion but are good people. I am sure they struggle with temptation but I am Muslim and so do I.
do the people your talking about drink/listen to music/gamble/flirt/have illegal sexual intercourse?
lol sis, they allow themselves to get intoxicated, wiv little boundaries, and of as u say u kno many wivout religion who are civilised, this doesnt necessarily mean they show u wat they are.
I hope that makes sence
i strongly believe faith in the one and allmighty is needed to be civilised.
think about muhammad (saws) and abu bakr (ra), accordin to scholars they always had faith
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My tears testify that i have a heart
yet i feel me and shaytan never part
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Do people need a religion in order to be good, humane, productive people?
i remember having thi kind of discussion in class once....but you see...that if a rules are enforced by law, how many people do follow it?....but when a religion says something, a person tries their best to follow it strictly....if you catch someone stealing, which of these would you think would work best when judging them....religion or law?...if law, it is very likely that the person will break it again...because in the first place, he/she obviously knows that it was against the law....but if it was the person was told about religion, i am sure that the person would reflect more. know that it is wrong and that you would be punished in the hereafter.
therefore, id say that religion plays a very important role in our daily lives.
without it, a very strict government wouldnt be able to control the amount of crimes that would have happened.
oh yeah....nand one more thing....i dont think that if religion wasnt there in the first place, the government wouldnt know what is right and what is wrong would they
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