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U are new to this forum but I m not, I have made it clear already that although I m a hindu, that doesnt means that my religion is hindu. My religiion is humanity which is the only religion of ALLAH/GOD/BHAGVAN, as per my belief.
HIndu is not itself a religion. U cant find the word hindu in any of the book U have known to be hindu religious scripture. Its more than enough proof of my claim that hindu is not a religion.
So what u want to discuess here? plz eleborate.
BTW I m here to discuess about Islamic beliefs, and I must admit that this forum has help me clearing many of misconceptions I had regarding Islam. Still there are many questions left, I hope to put them up before U for suitable answers.
U are new to this forum but I m not, I have made it clear already that although I m a hindu, that doesnt means that my religion is hindu. My religiion is humanity which is the only religion of ALLAH/GOD/BHAGVAN, as per my belief.
HIndu is not itself a religion. U cant find the word hindu in any of the book U have known to be hindu religious scripture. Its more than enough proof of my claim that hindu is not a religion.
So what u want to discuess here? plz eleborate.
BTW I m here to discuess about Islamic beliefs, and I must admit that this forum has help me clearing many of misconceptions I had regarding Islam. Still there are many questions left, I hope to put them up before U for suitable answers.
Thanks
Brotehr many of my posts may seem 'anti hinduism or india' this is in fact untrue. I have nothing against hindus or any other person who follows any religion they choose.
As you are aware Dhan Guru Nanak dev ji too preached what you yourself believe, is this correct?
And can you explain where the thought that Krishan is blue and Durga sits on a lion (or swan) and has six arms. And the other deities. as this to me is a concept very difficult to grasp.
Ėk Gusā Alhu Mėrā
The One Lord, the Lord of the World, is my God Allah.
Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Mahraaj Ji!
Kal Meh Bėḏ Atharbaṇ Hū Nā Kẖuḏā Alhu Bẖa.
In the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the Atharva Veda became prominent; Allah became the Name of God.
Brotehr many of my posts may seem 'anti hinduism or india' this is in fact untrue. I have nothing against hindus or any other person who follows any religion they choose.
As you are aware Dhan Guru Nanak dev ji too preached what you yourself believe, is this correct?
And can you explain where the thought that Krishan is blue and Durga sits on a lion (or swan) and has six arms. And the other deities. as this to me is a concept very difficult to grasp.
Brother, although I again emphasize that hinduism is not a religion, yet for comfort of debate, I will use this terminology in religious terms now onwards.
One thing I will love to quote about the beauty of so called hindu religion. From our very childhood, we are taught about the greatness of litrally all important religious figures. Like the holy prophet Mohammad, Jesus Christ, Imam Hasan, and so on and so forth. And Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji and other gurus of sikhism are considered our own gods. Or Devtas as we call them. It may irk U, but majority of hindus dont consider sikhism as a seperate religion. But it is considered to be a part of Hinduism itself.
U have rightly said about the Lord Krishna, and Durga, and other deities, its really hard to digest about them. Same happened with me too thats why I chose to say good bye to idol worship and than onwards my belief in one GOD became stronger with the each passing minute.
And ya, I know that Dhan Guru Nanak Dev ji preached what I believe. Stories about HIM have always inspired me.
Last edited by justahumane; 10-14-2006 at 01:45 PM.
And Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji and other gurus of sikhism are considered our own gods. Or Devtas as we call them. It may irk U, but majority of hindus dont consider sikhism as a seperate religion. But it is considered to be a part of Hinduism itself.
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But hinduism tries to absorb most religions. Bhuddism and Jainsim are seen as part of Hinduism, but Sikhism has falied to fall into the fold im so glad to say
BTW - The Guru's are not Gods of any kind, but were prophets of the Lord whom preached nothing but the word of the Lord. Calling them Gods is a insult to their teachings!
Because unlike the two i mentioned above, Sikhi do not have many thing s in common with hindusim. - The gurus were not dieties with 6 arms and 10 heads sitting on a cow or bull. - Sikhi came into being becasue of all the fallacies in hinduism and ither religions. Muslims claim Sikhi is part of Islam and go as far as to say we're a martial race of Islam. Yes we have a few things in common with both faiths, but we're distinct in our own right.
Ėk Gusā Alhu Mėrā
The One Lord, the Lord of the World, is my God Allah.
Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Mahraaj Ji!
Kal Meh Bėḏ Atharbaṇ Hū Nā Kẖuḏā Alhu Bẖa.
In the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the Atharva Veda became prominent; Allah became the Name of God.
But hinduism tries to absorb most religions. Bhuddism and Jainsim are seen as part of Hinduism, but Sikhism has falied to fall into the fold im so glad to say
BTW - The Guru's are not Gods of any kind, but were prophets of the Lord whom preached nothing but the word of the Lord. Calling them Gods is a insult to their teachings!
Because unlike the two i mentioned above, Sikhi do not have many thing s in common with hindusim. - The gurus were not dieties with 6 arms and 10 heads sitting on a cow or bull. - Sikhi came into being becasue of all the fallacies in hinduism and ither religions. Muslims claim Sikhi is part of Islam and go as far as to say we're a martial race of Islam. Yes we have a few things in common with both faiths, but we're distinct in our own right.
Very true brother, hinduism does try to absorb most religions like buddhism and jainism too. I swear my GOD that I dont want to offend U or have an argument with U on this issue, but cant help telling U what I feel is a reality.
Though I too believe that Sikhism is a seperate religion, and it might look further seperated in western countries like Uk and US, still in India U can freely find sikhs visiting the holy shrine of Vashno Devi in Jammu and hindus thronging Gurudwaras in larger numbers for sake of "mattha tekne".
I know very well that Gurus are not God, and neither I said that they are considered God among hindus. U should understand that hindus have one God and a lots of gods, or devatas and devis , they are considered worthy of great respect and often worship also. So gurus too fall in that line of gods among hindus. U can call it funny, but its a fact.
Brother as a firm believer in one GOD and religion of humanity, Every human on face of earth is my brother or sister. So any other religion hardly matters for me. For me all religion are against wishes of GOD, coz it creates division among the creations of same GOD. HE knows best.
U should understand that hindus have one God and a lots of gods, or devatas and devis , they are considered worthy of great respect and often worship also. So gurus too fall in that line of gods among hindus.
Brother as a firm believer in one GOD and religion of humanity, Every human on face of earth is my brother or sister. So any other religion hardly matters for me. For me all religion are against wishes of GOD, coz it creates division among the creations of same GOD. HE knows best.
La illaha ill Allah
There is no deity worthy of Worship except Allah!
For Hindu's to say that you have many gods and one god makes no sense to me
Last edited by Hanif_Revert; 10-16-2006 at 04:06 PM.
La illaha ill Allah
There is no deity worthy of Worship except Allah!
To say that you have many gods and one god makes no sense to me
I totally agree!
Make Dua for your Brothers and the Angels will make Dua for You!
Happy moments, Praise Allah
Difficult moments, Seek Allah
Quiet moments, Worship Allah
Painful moments, Trust Allah
Every moment, Thank Allah
If Allah brings you to it, He will bring you through it
La illaha ill Allah
There is no deity worthy of Worship except Allah!
To say that you have many gods and one god makes no sense to me
Brother U are so biased that U dont take some time even to read any particular post carefully and jump to conclusions. I too agree that there is no diety worthy of worship except ALLAH/GOD.
And I was describing the belief of Sanatan Dharm (Hinduism as u like it) followers and not myself. So addressing me in ur post doesnt make sense to me even,I expect U to realize and edit ur post.
Brother justahumane, I am very confused reading your posts. So you dont believe in the hindu scriptures and follow them, like we follow the qur'an. So why do you call yourself a hindu?
Zakir Naik once explained that a hindu is someone from india, and is not related to whether he follows a certain religion or not, but just the fact that he i from india, ie it is a geographic label. is this correct, and thus is it why you call yourself a hindu?
PS i just relaised your user njame is meant to same just a human, but it doesnt, perhaps you can get mods to change it, cos u have misspelt human, you have an "e" at the end
Make Dua for your Brothers and the Angels will make Dua for You!
Happy moments, Praise Allah
Difficult moments, Seek Allah
Quiet moments, Worship Allah
Painful moments, Trust Allah
Every moment, Thank Allah
If Allah brings you to it, He will bring you through it
Brother justahumane, I am very confused reading your posts. So you dont believe in the hindu scriptures and follow them, like we follow the qur'an. So why do you call yourself a hindu?
Zakir Naik once explained that a hindu is someone from india, and is not related to whether he follows a certain religion or not, but just the fact that he i from india, ie it is a geographic label. is this correct, and thus is it why you call yourself a hindu?
PS i just relaised your user njame is meant to same just a human, but it doesnt, perhaps you can get mods to change it, cos u have misspelt human, you have an "e" at the end
Brother I have explained frequently that hinduism is not a religion in itself. And althouth I dont agree with Dr. Zakir Naik on most of issues, but I feel that he is 100% correct when he says that any Indian, can be called hindu. But I must admit that these days hindu is percieved to be a seperate religion.
Let me make it clear once again that I dont believe in polythism and my belief of GOD is very much influenced by that of Islam. With a difference that I dont believe in any prophet/messenger or book/divine laws. Thats it.
And I have spelled my ID intentionally, justahumane......it sounds better to me, therefore I went for this one. So no need to change it.
BTW brother, all scriptures which are percieved to be hindu religious scriptures are not from BHAGVAN, OR GOD. They are written by some humans who thought that they are patrons of religion in their times.
In my views the only hindu/Sanatan Dharma authentic religious scripture is Bhagvat Geeta. which is considered to be the words of BHAGVAN Krishna, or Lord Krishna.
Brother U are so biased that U dont take some time even to read any particular post carefully and jump to conclusions. I too agree that there is no diety worthy of worship except ALLAH/GOD.
And I was describing the belief of Sanatan Dharm (Hinduism as u like it) followers and not myself. So addressing me in ur post doesnt make sense to me even,I expect U to realize and edit ur post.
Thanks.
Sorry, i have edited it,
i meant for any Hindu. i meant 'you' in the general term not 'you' personally.
Yes I dont believe that ALLAH has given us any commands or laws, he has given us enough brain to know that whats right and whats wrong for Us.
But that leaves it open to interpretation. Either X is permissable or it is not. One perosn using his intelect could say alcohol is not allowed, then another can say according to him it is permissable. now who is right, only one of them is, it cant be right for one perosn and wrong for another. it only makes sense that when god created us he gave us guidelines to live, as he is our god and he wouldnt let us be led astray, he loves us and so sends revelations to us to help us
Make Dua for your Brothers and the Angels will make Dua for You!
Happy moments, Praise Allah
Difficult moments, Seek Allah
Quiet moments, Worship Allah
Painful moments, Trust Allah
Every moment, Thank Allah
If Allah brings you to it, He will bring you through it
But that leaves it open to interpretation. Either X is permissable or it is not. One perosn using his intelect could say alcohol is not allowed, then another can say according to him it is permissable. now who is right, only one of them is, it cant be right for one perosn and wrong for another. it only makes sense that when god created us he gave us guidelines to live, as he is our god and he wouldnt let us be led astray, he loves us and so sends revelations to us to help us
Yet there is confusion. Not only between different religions but even within each and every religion. You take a simple example, alcohol. Try a complex one live Aposticy or the vail. You will here many different interpretations.
Yet there is confusion. Not only between different religions but even within each and every religion. You take a simple example, alcohol. Try a complex one live Aposticy or the vail. You will here many different interpretations.
even alcohol isn't simple. i've had muslims tell me that the qur'an only says that drinking to intoxication is sinful - not the alcohol itself.
should add that i don't want to cause an argument here - i have no position on the subject.
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