Modern earth sciences have proven that mountains have deep roots under the surface of the ground and that these roots can reach several times their elevations above the surface of the ground.2 So the most suitable word to describe mountains on the basis of this information is the word ‘peg,’ since most of a properly set peg is hidden under the surface of the ground. The history of science tells us that the theory of mountains having deep roots was introduced only in the latter half of the nineteenth century.
Mountains also play an important role in stabilizing the crust of the earth.4 They hinder the shaking of the earth. God has said in the Quran:
And He has set firm mountains in the earth so that it would not shake with you... (Quran, 16:15)
Likewise, the modern theory of plate tectonics holds that mountains work as stabilizers for the earth. This knowledge about the role of mountains as stabilizers for the earth has just begun to be understood in the framework of plate tectonics since the late 1960’s.
Could anyone during the time of the Prophet Muhammad have known of the true shape of mountains? Could anyone imagine that the solid massive mountain which he sees before him actually extends deep into the earth and has a root, as scientists assert? A large number of books of geology, when discussing mountains, only describe that part which is above the surface of the earth. This is because these books were not written by specialists in geology. However, modern geology has confirmed the truth of the Quranic verses.
The Quran on Fly
O men! Here is a parable set forth! Listen to it! Those on whom, besides Allah(God), you call, can not Create even a fly, if they all met together for the purpose! And if the fly should snatch away anything from them, they would have no power to release it from the fly. Feeble are those who petition and those whom they petition}. [22:73]Holy Qur'an
It is a Qur'anic description. If the fly should snatch some food no one would know how to recover it from it (the fly). According to modern scientific discoveries, the fly might have discharged some gas which would bring the .food into change, which no one can redeem.
Does man (a disbeliever) think that We shall not assemble his bones? Yes, We are Able to put together in perfect order the tips of his fingers [75:3,4] Holy Qur'an.
It is amazing miracle, and the story of it; a Man came to the prophet, with a dead bones and ask him O Mohammed do you say that Allah (God) will bring me back to life after i become like this dead Bones. Then Allah (God) reply with a verse in the holy Qur'an, that not only his bones will be back, but the tip of his finger. As we now know that every human has his unique fingerprint.
The notion of "a resting place" for the sun is vividly described in the Holy Qur'an:
And the Sun runs (on course) unto a resting place. That is the Decree of the Exalted in Might, the All Knowing. The Holy Qur'an (36:38)
"Resting place" is the translation of the Arabic word " Mustaqarr" which indicates an exact appointed place and fixed time. According to modern astronomy, the solar system is indeed moving in space at a rate of 12 miles per second towards a point situated in the constellation of Hercules (alpha lyrae) whose exact location has been precisely calculated.
Furthermore, astronomers have named that "Mustaqarr": The Solar Apex.
We have sent our Messengers with clear proofs, and sent down with them the Book and Balance, that mankind may observe justice; And We sent down iron, in which is (material for) mighty power, as well as many benefits for mankind, that Allah may test who it is that will help, unseen, Him and His Messengers, for Allah is full of strength, Exalted in Might.
(The Holy Qur'an, 57:25)
The Holy Qur'an tells us that the iron was sent down to earth. Scientists have, only recently, come to discover the relevant facts about the formation of iron. Geologists believe that the entire energy of our solar system is not sufficient to produce even one atom of iron. Moreover, they state that four times as much energy as that of our solar system would be required to make one atom of iron on the surface of the earth. The geologists thus conclude that iron is an extraterrestrial material that was sent down to earth from some other planet.
Who besides Allah could have such absolute knowledge/done such action, i.e. sending down iron to earth, which excels and encompasses all levels of human knowledge and might?? .!! For sure, no one can claim that.
We have sent our Messengers with clear proofs, and sent down with them the Book and Balance, that mankind may observe justice; And We sent down iron, in which is (material for) mighty power, as well as many benefits for mankind, that Allah may test who it is that will help, unseen, Him and His Messengers, for Allah is full of strength, Exalted in Might.
(The Holy Qur'an, 57:25)
The Holy Qur'an tells us that the iron was sent down to earth. Scientists have, only recently, come to discover the relevant facts about the formation of iron. Geologists believe that the entire energy of our solar system is not sufficient to produce even one atom of iron. Moreover, they state that four times as much energy as that of our solar system would be required to make one atom of iron on the surface of the earth. The geologists thus conclude that iron is an extraterrestrial material that was sent down to earth from some other planet.
Who besides Allah could have such absolute knowledge/done such action, i.e. sending down iron to earth, which excels and encompasses all levels of human knowledge and might?? .!! For sure, no one can claim that.
Can you give me a reference for that claim from the geologists?
I think you have also misunderstood the basic science of the formation of Iron. Our Sun is on what is called the CNO cycle,
What that means is that an atom of carbon-12 is fused with a neutron to form the next heaviest element, Nitrogen-13, which spontaneously decays into Carbon-13 and some minor particle. Carbon-13 then fuses with another neutron to form Nitrogen-14. Nitrogen-14 fuses with another neutron to form Oxygen-15, which spontaneously decays for form Nitrogen-15, which in turn fuses with another neutron to form Carbon-12 and a Helium particle. So in all the process takes four hydrogen atoms and turns them into a helium atom. The energy needed to fuse carbon, nitrogen and oxygen is high and so the Sun cannot fuse heavier elements such as iron. If everything heavier than Iron did not come from the Sun, they must have come from elsewhere which would be another Sun which has turned supernova. So when our Sun formed, it swept up a lot of material blown into space by other Suns that had died some time previously. That was deposited on this planet when it was formed. The Earth has a mass of about 6x10^24 tons. Of which about 35 percent is iron by mass. So you can see that there is no way that this amount of iron came raining down in the form of asteroids - they would be no planet here for them to hit for one thing.
Le coeur a ses raisons, que la raison ne connait pas. - Blaise Pascal
The notion of "a resting place" for the sun is vividly described in the Holy Qur'an:
And the Sun runs (on course) unto a resting place. That is the Decree of the Exalted in Might, the All Knowing. The Holy Qur'an (36:38)
"Resting place" is the translation of the Arabic word " Mustaqarr" which indicates an exact appointed place and fixed time. According to modern astronomy, the solar system is indeed moving in space at a rate of 12 miles per second towards a point situated in the constellation of Hercules (alpha lyrae) whose exact location has been precisely calculated.
Furthermore, astronomers have named that "Mustaqarr": The Solar Apex.
May I ask which astronomers?
The Sun weighs approximately 2x10^30 kilograms or as much as 332,950 Earths. It is travelling around the center of the Galaxy at about 217 kilometers per second. KE = 1/2xMxV^2 or a heck of a lot. How do you think that the Sun will stop? I mean it is not moving uphill. It is rotating around in a circle and it has, as you can see, something of the order of 5x10^40 joules of energy. It will not come to a stop unless some force acts on it. There is no resting place for this Sun in that sense. What, short of a collision with another Sun, could stop our Sun?
Le coeur a ses raisons, que la raison ne connait pas. - Blaise Pascal
Does man (a disbeliever) think that We shall not assemble his bones? Yes, We are Able to put together in perfect order the tips of his fingers [75:3,4] Holy Qur'an.
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As we now know that every human has his unique fingerprint.
Would you agree that (a) a finger tip is not the same thing as a finger print, and (b) the Quran does not mention finger prints anywhere at all?
(And by the way the Chinese knew about fingerprints in the Han dynasty - some 800 years before Muhammed was born)
Le coeur a ses raisons, que la raison ne connait pas. - Blaise Pascal
What that means is that an atom of carbon-12 is fused with a neutron to form the next heaviest element, Nitrogen-13, which spontaneously decays into Carbon-13 and some minor particle. Carbon-13 then fuses with another neutron to form Nitrogen-14. Nitrogen-14 fuses with another neutron to form Oxygen-15, which spontaneously decays for form Nitrogen-15, which in turn fuses with another neutron to form Carbon-12 and a Helium particle. So in all the process takes four hydrogen atoms and turns them into a helium atom. The energy needed to fuse carbon, nitrogen and oxygen is high and so the Sun cannot fuse heavier elements such as iron. If everything heavier than Iron did not come from the Sun, they must have come from elsewhere which would be another Sun which has turned supernova. So when our Sun formed, it swept up a lot of material blown into space by other Suns that had died some time previously. That was deposited on this planet when it was formed. The Earth has a mass of about 6x10^24 tons. Of which about 35 percent is iron by mass. So you can see that there is no way that this amount of iron came raining down in the form of asteroids - they would be no planet here for them to hit for one thing.
The Sun weighs approximately 2x10^30 kilograms or as much as 332,950 Earths. It is travelling around the center of the Galaxy at about 217 kilometers per second. KE = 1/2xMxV^2 or a heck of a lot. How do you think that the Sun will stop? I mean it is not moving uphill. It is rotating around in a circle and it has, as you can see, something of the order of 5x10^40 joules of energy. It will not come to a stop unless some force acts on it. There is no resting place for this Sun in that sense. What, short of a collision with another Sun, could stop our Sun?
Also why the sun stops only Allah knows,but we do have some scientific evidencce that the sun may die out or as you say another force destroy the sun
But as the Quran say clearly.."a resting place" would indicate that the sun shall die out or as many scietist would say the fuel would be gone.
Does man think that We cannot assemble his bones?
Nay, We are able to put together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers.
And that verse is a challenge when some one said to Propeht Muhammad saw,will we live again after deat after we have become bones,and the verse replied Yes perfectly to your fingertips.
Also i am interested in the source of of the Han dynasty,can you provide
The energy needed to fuse carbon, nitrogen and oxygen is high and so the Sun cannot fuse heavier elements such as iron. If everything heavier than Iron did not come from the Sun, they must have come from elsewhere which would be another Sun which has turned supernova. So when our Sun formed, it swept up a lot of material blown into space by other Suns that had died some time previously. That was deposited on this planet when it was formed. The Earth has a mass of about 6x10^24 tons. Of which about 35 percent is iron by mass. So you can see that there is no way that this amount of iron came raining down in the form of asteroids - they would be no planet here for them to hit for one thing.
Sure but they do not answer the question or even address the issue. I am happy to accept that asteroids are often made up of iron - iron-nickel is the name for the most common type of asteroid. But the iron in our Solar System is extra-Solar, admittedly, but it was here when the Earth was formed. Very little has come down since then in the form of asteroids as far as we can tell.
Which doesn't mean there aren't iron-nickel asteroids around. They were an important source of iron for the early iron-makers. Presumably the Black Stone in the Kaba is of this type. Or related to it. But again over a third of the mass of the Earth is iron. How could that have rained down?
Le coeur a ses raisons, que la raison ne connait pas. - Blaise Pascal
And this one just seems to be about astronomy from the Earth's surface and so is equally irrelevant.
Also why the sun stops only Allah knows,but we do have some scientific evidencce that the sun may die out or as you say another force destroy the sun
That is true. But not that the Sun is slowly moving to some point where it will stop. Now perhaps God can do that, but it would take, literally, a miracle.
[quopte] But as the Quran say clearly.."a resting place" would indicate that the sun shall die out or as many scietist would say the fuel would be gone. [/QUOTE]
I much prefer that as an explanation.
Le coeur a ses raisons, que la raison ne connait pas. - Blaise Pascal
May i ask can you get finger print wihout a finger tip?
The question ought to be the other way around - can you have a finger tip without a finger print? The Quranic text looked to be interested in tips to me, not in prints.
Does man think that We cannot assemble his bones?
Nay, We are able to put together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers.
And that verse is a challenge when some one said to Propeht Muhammad saw,will we live again after deat after we have become bones,and the verse replied Yes perfectly to your fingertips.
I have no problem with that as a claim. But the word "finger print" does not appear there does it?
Also i am interested in the source of of the Han dynasty,can you provide
I can look around. Let me get back to you.
Le coeur a ses raisons, que la raison ne connait pas. - Blaise Pascal
The question ought to be the other way around - can you have a finger tip without a finger print? The Quranic text looked to be interested in tips to me, not in prints.
I have no problem with that as a claim. But the word "finger print" does not appear there does it?
I can look around. Let me get back to you.
Salaam,
thus it is simple,again the qeustion,would you have fingerprint if the whole fingr is not there..For every fingerprint can be identical to other if they are not whole..it is only when the finger is whole do we get the differences and miracle of that verse.
That each is an individual,no two the same.
The verse answer in its tone and context very simple..to the question asked.
For Allah,is our creator,and He knows HIS creation.
Does man think that We cannot assemble his bones?
Nay, We are able to put together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers.
Allah can aseemble the bones,,,and yeah that verse clothe the flesh on the bones and the individual differences that makes a human being his own being.
Sure but they do not answer the question or even address the issue. I am happy to accept that asteroids are often made up of iron - iron-nickel is the name for the most common type of asteroid. But the iron in our Solar System is extra-Solar, admittedly, but it was here when the Earth was formed. Very little has come down since then in the form of asteroids as far as we can tell.
Which doesn't mean there aren't iron-nickel asteroids around. They were an important source of iron for the early iron-makers. Presumably the Black Stone in the Kaba is of this type. Or related to it. But again over a third of the mass of the Earth is iron. How could that have rained down?
Salaam,
Alhamdulilah that you have read it and understood a part of it.
You can accept that asteroid are made up of iron and nickel.
And the Quranic verse say that
We have sent our Messengers with clear proofs, and sent down with them the Book and Balance, that mankind may observe justice; And We sent down iron, in which is (material for) mighty power, as well as many benefits for mankind, that Allah may test who it is that will help, unseen, Him and His Messengers, for Allah is full of strength, Exalted in Might.
(The Holy Qur'an, 57:25)
Allah sent down the Iron for the benefit of mankind .
In that is a miracle by itself,in the past as geologist has seen and known asteroid deposit or hit the eart in huge quantities,this fact is not disputed.
Thus Allah has said,and no more BIG asteroid have hit earth any more.Alhamdulilah.
as the links show fine particles of comet and asteroid do come to earth but the affect are negligible..as comapred to the past..which Allah sent for the good of mankind.
thus it is simple,again the qeustion,would you have fingerprint if the whole fingr is not there..For every fingerprint can be identical to other if they are not whole..it is only when the finger is whole do we get the differences and miracle of that verse.
Actually the question is still the other way around. The Sister claimed that the Quran, in talking about finger tips, was proving something about finger prints. It may be that for a finger print to exist you need a finger tip, but people knew thy had finger tips thousands of years before they knew they had finger prints. Where does the Quran mention finger prints?
Does man think that We cannot assemble his bones?
Nay, We are able to put together in perfect order the very tips of his fingers.
Allah can aseemble the bones,,,and yeah that verse clothe the flesh on the bones and the individual differences that makes a human being his own being.
Absolutely. Which would, presumably, include finger prints. But it does not say finger prints does it?
Le coeur a ses raisons, que la raison ne connait pas. - Blaise Pascal
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