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    Are you a fan of relatives marriage? hmm (OP)


    I know there's already a thread like this but i wanted to start this again. also with a poll. So please mods dont merge them. jazakumallahu khayr.

    so are u a fan of relatives marriage? and why?

    also have u seen a successful marriage from relatives?

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    Re: Are you a fan of relatives marriage? hmm

    Report bad ads?

    No Im not a fan at all.

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    Re: Are you a fan of relatives marriage? hmm

    format_quote Originally Posted by ragdollcat1982 View Post
    I am not making observatinions "isolated to just my small town". I define incest as relations between relatives closer than second cousins. Some states here will let cousins marry, while others prohibit it. Three states that permit it only allow it if the woman presents documentation that she is sterilized. The Appalachian region of the US startes in Maine and extends down to northern Alabama/Georgia. These are mountainous areas that are for some people very isolating. Hence the incest culture. I have posted a link from ABC news that did a piece on the region. Read it and learn about the area before you think I am just going by observation in my "small town". Actually I live in a small city population 50,000.


    http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Story?id=5922943&page=1

    forgive me but what is the point of this post?
    Incest is a cardinal sin (check)
    cousins aren't classified under such category (check)
    the majority arent a fan of consanguineous marriages whether distance or first (check)
    Not enough scientific evidence (as in cold hard data) without confounders to prove that, the birth defects in consanguineous marriages not (incestuous) ones are different than the general population (check)

    I am a woman of science, I don't usually go by people's feelings or observation. In order for anyone to make a strong point, they'll have to give me data with the following
    P value
    confidence interval
    relative risk
    confounders in the study if any, and the type of population studied..
    If you are studying an Ashkenazi Jewish population for Tay sachs diseases especially in a consanguineous marriage, then I can just take your data and throw it out the window knowing the relative risk in their population as one in every 27 Jews in the United States is a carrier of the Tay Sachs' gene.

    you bringing on TV a bunch of families with said disease to make a point against
    a consanguineous marriage will then be laughed at by the scientific community, even if it might sway the general public..

    with that I hope we are all clear..

    peace


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    Re: Are you a fan of relatives marriage? hmm

    skye you call yourself a woman of science. So you should know that multi generational incest, even cousin marriages can produce children who suffer from developmental and physical disabilties. Maybe in your culture first cousin marraiges are not consider incestous, but here in the USA it is because of the disabilties and abnormalities the children can suffer.

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    Re: Are you a fan of relatives marriage? hmm

    format_quote Originally Posted by ragdollcat1982 View Post
    skye you call yourself a woman of science. So you should know that multi generational incest, even cousin marriages can produce children who suffer from developmental and physical disabilties. Maybe in your culture first cousin marraiges are not consider incestous, but here in the USA it is because of the disabilties and abnormalities the children can suffer.

    again, until such a time you bring me a study with the above values to satisfy conditions mentioned in the abstract from the medical journal I quoted prior, can you really come and tell me of disabilities or otherwise.. Have you understood anything at all written?

    I can drown you in medical jargon if I make that my desire.. but I have no wish to do so, I think the example I have given with the Ashkenazis is quite sufficient for those who understand how the scientific method and research models work...

    Anything beyond that is a feud to satisfy something in your own person to save face or whatever, which I don't have the time nor interest to entertain!


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