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Can unitarian Christians who reject the trinity and believe in the oneness of God, like Muslims, be considered "Muslim"?
 
Part of being Muslims is also accepting Muhammed (saw) is a Messenger, Seal of the Prophets.
Not to mention, belief in the five pillars.
 
Argamemnon said:
Salam/Peace,

Can unitarian Christians who reject the trinity and believe in the oneness of God, like Muslims, be considered "Muslim"?
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Close, but they don't quite make it.


Although they have very similar beliefs as we have, they do not accept the Shahadah or the 5 pillars,
 
Woodrow said:
Close, but they don't quite make it.


Although they have very similar beliefs as we have, they do not accept the Shahadah or the 5 pillars,
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Yes, but on the other hand, they are the true people of the book; Ahl al Kitab. I also wonder how many Christians are actually unitarian, I suppose not many...
 
Argamemnon said:
Yes, but on the other hand, they are the true people of the book; Ahl al Kitab. I also wonder how many Christians are actually unitarian, I suppose not many...
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Would be true, if the Bible they use was the unchanged word of Allaah(swt) but that seems unlikely as they do include the New Testement, only interpret it different than other Christians. They also believe Jesus(as) is the way to heaven and do pray to him, but do not consider him to be equal to Allaah(swt)
 
No they only complete one of five pillars, not all and a Muslim should pray five times or Is called a kaffir(non beleiver) even though you are Muslim by name . That same rule apply fir those Christians I suppose.
 
Actually what I find most interesting about Christianity is that the Unitarians and the Trinitarians both use the same Bible, yet both claim radically different beliefs about Jesus (as) and the concept of God.
 
Yanal said:
and a Muslim should pray five times or Is called a kaffir(non beleiver) even though you are Muslim by name.
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I'm sorry brother, but that's utter nonsense (no offense). You are NOT a kafir if you believe in Allah and his messengers even if you never pray. There are a lot of Muslims who don't pray at all. I would say hundreds of millions. lol!!
 
Oh I thought that if you don't pray... Ok thanks for correcting me.
 
Yanal said:
No they only complete one of five pillars, not all and a Muslim should pray five times or Is called a kaffir(non beleiver) even though you are Muslim by name . That same rule apply fir those Christians I suppose.
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Actually, they technically only believe in half of the first pillar.
 
rpwelton said:
Actually what I find most interesting about Christianity is that the Unitarians and the Trinitarians both use the same Bible, yet both claim radically different beliefs about Jesus (as) and the concept of God.
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I find it interesting that the Ahmadi use the same Qu'ran as Sunni and Shi'a Muslims, yet they have radically different beliefs regarding what it means to be Muslim.
 
how christians define the christians group that is in the right path? Can you please explain. And which is the majority group?

thanx in advance. :)
 
I don't have much time, syilla, but I believe the 'Apostle's Creed' may give you a good answer.

I found this in Wikipedia:
The Apostles Creed (Symbolum Apostolorum) was developed between the second and ninth centuries. It is the most popular creed used in worship by Western Christians. Its central doctrines are those of the Trinity and God the Creator. Each of the doctrines found in this creed can be traced to statements current in the apostolic period. Since the Apostles Creed is still unaffected by the later Christological divisions, its statement of the articles of Christian faith remain largely acceptable to most Christian denominations:
* belief in God the Father, Jesus Christ as the Son of God and the Holy Spirit
* the death, descent into hell, resurrection, and ascension of Christ
* the holiness of the Church and the communion of saints
* Christ's second coming, the Day of Judgement and salvation of the faithful.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity

Here is the Creeditself:
"I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth;

And in Jesus Christ, his only begotten Son, our Lord;

Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary;

Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead and buried; He descended into hell;

The third day he rose again from the dead;

He ascended into heaven, and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty;

From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead;

I believe in the Holy Ghost;

I believe in the holy catholic church; the communion of saints;

The forgiveness of sin;

The resurrection of the body;

And the life everlasting. Amen."
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Hope that answers your question. Perhaps others can elaborate more.

Peace :)
 
Argamemnon said:
I'm sorry brother, but that's utter nonsense (no offense). You are NOT a kafir if you believe in Allah and his messengers even if you never pray. There are a lot of Muslims who don't pray at all. I would say hundreds of millions. lol!!
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Actually, the Prophet Muhammad [saas] said "the difference between us [the believers] and the disbeliever is Salah [5 daily prayers]. Whoever abandons this prayer, abandons his religion and becomes a disbeliever." -I'm pretty sure it's in the two Sahihs, and I know it is an authentic hadith, as I have heard many scholars use it.

The meaning of the hadith is, the person who doesn't pray because he doesn't want to, and believes that he doesn't have to [for example, he believes Allah will forgive him, so he doesn't pray even tho he is commanded, or he believes the salah is not a part of islam, or has some other problem in aqeedah] then this person is a disbeliever. -But the Muslim who believes he should pray, and feels bad for not praying, then he is still a believer, even if he doesn't pray.

Salaam
 
Greetings and peace be with you Argamemnon;

God has to be greater than the sum of all the religions of the world put together.

Regardless of what we may believe, and regardless of how we pray, the same God hears all our prayers, we are all created by the same God.

In the spirit of praying that all people may obtain eternal salvation.

Eric
 
Eric H said:
Greetings and peace be with you Argamemnon;

God has to be greater than the sum of all the religions of the world put together.

Regardless of what we may believe, and regardless of how we pray, the same God hears all our prayers, we are all created by the same God.

In the spirit of praying that all people may obtain eternal salvation.

Eric
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Greetings and peace be with you Eric,

I trust God's mercy. God knows best... :)
 
They're not really Christians, I'm not even sure Uu should be considered a religion.
Besides, they're much to liberal to be considered Muslims.
 

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