Convert vs Revert

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Greetings Mick

ATHEISTofPEACE said:
Is there any reason out side of the Koran that would indicate that hte souls of newborns are born with faith in Allah?
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No the main source for Islam is the Quran, not what I say or what you think its about what Allah thinks and ultimately wills.
When you say outside of the “Quran” I don't think you should look any further, to places such as science as this issue concerning “soul” is outside of it.

Peace
 
ATHEISTofPEACE said:
Quick read threw the report seems to be
lacky was the test even double blind?
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Hello - assalam

Well, what do you mean by "double blind" ?

If you want extra info on this please g00gle for something like "belief children
god" ( without quotations ). One more link on this is :

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2008/nov/25/religion-children

Unfortunately i did not find the link to original paper. Maybe someone with
more searching can find that.

Regards.

Peace - wassalam
 
Why sister as a Muslim and neither having the experience of being a convert or revert you should see both sides equally.... Maybe I could help if you have any questions about converts or the members of LI because our knowlegable brotther Woodrow who is a convert .
 
Yanal, i guess what I meant to say it that, after reading both sides of a discussion or argument I can see how boths...think...i guess is how you would put it, I am open-minded in most subjects.

btw...i would pm a lot of questions but the pm on here won't let me until I post 50 posts...I can post my email if necessary.
 
No that will make you have an infraction (trust me i got one) i was just wondering if you had any questions....
 
I have plenty, but too shy to ask out loud due to the fact that I don't want to offend anyone. I do better with one on one either PMs or messangers.
 
There is a hadith of the Prophet (saws), in which he said:

“How good are the women of Ansar (helpers) that their shyness does not prevent them from learning religion."

Don't let your shyness get in the way :statisfie inshaAllah if you are sincerely seeking information about the religion, people will not (or at least should not) get offended by the questions.

While talking with a person one on one can be comfortable, it's not the ideal situation unless you're talking with a person of knowledge (and I don't think we have any of them here on this board). The rest of us are mere students (if even) and we may be mistaken in our answers. If the questions are posted publicly, then if one answerer makes a mistake, another can correct him/her.
 
VidiaStarLight said:
I have plenty, but too shy to ask out loud due to the fact that I don't want to offend anyone. I do better with one on one either PMs or messangers.
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Theres plenty of members here who will be willing to help you out. Just post your questions in a thread, or if unsuitable for all members then try the sisters section or pm them after you have enough posts. You can also post as anonymous :thumbs_up

peace
 
Hello there Mick, hope you are doing well, and enjoying the forum.

ATHEISTofPEACE said:
the soul is a metaphysicla version of us right?
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Yes you could put it in this format.

ATHEISTofPEACE said:
What we are the soul is?
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well how we behave, and think not the whole of "we" is the soul.

ATHEISTofPEACE said:
What the soul is we are?
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again see my previouse reply.

The way you have laid it out Mick it seems that it isnt metaphysical as if we are the soul, then you can see the soul, and you can experiment the soul, so it wont be metaphysical.

I would say the soul is how we think, the soul is more of the center of the body: Mind and heart. now i now the heart doesnt do the thinking but you can understand what i mean.

Peace
 
Ali_Cena said:
Hello there Mick, hope you are doing well, and enjoying the forum.



Yes you could put it in this format.



well how we behave, and think not the whole of "we" is the soul.



again see my previouse reply.

The way you have laid it out Mick it seems that it isnt metaphysical as if we are the soul, then you can see the soul, and you can experiment the soul, so it wont be metaphysical.

I would say the soul is how we think, the soul is more of the center of the body: Mind and heart. now i now the heart doesnt do the thinking but you can understand what i mean.

Peace
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So our soul would be our essence and would be a reflection of who we are? I am just looking for a good agreed view of what a souls is if we have one so that I can talk about if having a pure soul leads to faith/belief. I want the idea to be laid out in a simple to follow out line with a few key points.
 
ATHEISTofPEACE said:
Right mentally and physically and atheist but "spiritually" a Muslim. They hold no belief structure at all. So they would only be Muslims in the sense that their soul is a Muslim.
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Please don't be offended but you have just compared atheists, and yourself for that matter, to having a mental and physical ability equivalent to a baby with no control of there thoughts, actions and/or ideas.
If thats the case, you have correctly indentified the concept of atheism which is a concept lacking alot of mental stimulus
 
coddles76 said:
Please don't be offended but you have just compared atheists, and yourself for that matter, to having a mental and physical ability equivalent to a baby with no control of there thoughts, actions and/or ideas.
If thats the case, you have correctly indentified the concept of atheism which is a concept lacking alot of mental stimulus
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Well thats not what I meant to say. But if you look at post following that I am sure you will see that.
 

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