Walter
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When you quit trying to make the Bible say that Jesus is not God, a doctrine of yours that is never actually stated in the Bible, but you present as true when it is only one of your speculative opinions, then we can talk about my use of speculative opinions.
Dear Grace Seeker:
“One of my speculative opinions”??? It is highly unethical and extremely dangerous to promote a speculative opinion as truth, especially when the consequences are eternal.
The messages of the apostles that are recorded in the Biblical Book of Acts repeatedly, consistently, and explicitly show that Jesus and God were two separate and distinct persons. One typical example of many follows.
“Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.” (Acts 2:36)
Paul wrote to the church in: Rome, Corinth, Galatia, Ephesus, Philippi, Colossi, and Thessalonica. He also wrote to Timothy, Titus, and Philemon. Letters were also written by the disciples James, Peter, and John. They all repeatedly mention Jesus and God, and consistently and explicitly describe them as separate persons.
Paul consistently identifies the One God as the Father.
There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. (Ephesians 4:4–6)
yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live. (1 Corinthians 8:6)
Every one of Paul’s recorded letters open with a greeting: in the name of God the Father, and the Lord Jesus. This seems to indicate that Paul wanted his readers to understand that God is the Father, and Jesus is the Lord. Paul also repeatedly and explicitly identified the Father as the God of Jesus. An example follows.
The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying. (2 Corinthians 11:31)
John referred to God as the Father, and the God of Jesus in the book of Revelation.
To Him who loved us and washed us from our sins in His own blood, and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen. (Revelation 1:5b–6)
In the evidence from the Bible, there are no explicit or indirect references to “Jesus our God”, or “our God Jesus”. There are several references to “Son of God” and “Lamb of God”, but not “God the Son” or “God the Lamb” or anything similar. However, there are numerous references to “God the Father”.
Jesus identified His disciples as His brethren after His death, and identified their common Father as God.
Jesus said to her, “Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.’” (John 20:17)
When Jesus prayed to His Father, He identified Him as the only true God, and Himself as separate from God.And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. (John 17:3)
Jesus actually refers to God as “My Father” approximately 50 times in the Gospels, and “the Father” approximately 70 times in the Gospels. Therefore, Jesus appears to have taught His followers that His Father is the One and only God.Grace Seeker, this is not speculative opinion, but explicit evidence repeatedly stated in the Bible. All of the evidence presented so far in the sister thread, that claimed to support the idea that Jesus is God, has been scrutinised. The assumptions upon which their interpretations were based have been found to be false.
Regards,
Grenville