enaged and marriage?

[catalzzy]

what about marriage certificate? does that nothing to do with nikkah?

 

[S_87]

Well, I got also a few questions actually I did not care about those things


When I have nikkah with the person I want to get married, can I hug her? Well, other questions will follow insha'allah

when you have the nikah done, you are married whether youre living together or not so yes u can hug her...

 

[Brasco]

when you have the nikah done, you are married whether youre living together or not so yes u can hug her...

but the other brother said, that it is not possible :S now I am confused! is not nikah a part of marriage ?? :S

 

[S_87]

yes nikah IS the marriage- the nikah marries you to her...as the nikah is done she is Islamically your wife...so you CAN hug/etc her

 

[sarah85]

Well, she says, it will show that we love each other :S but to me it means nothing :S but if she truly wants it, we will do it, I mean, I fine with everything unless she is happy

Tell her marriage will show how much you love each other...an engagement is a pale imitation. Technically you are engaged as you have both agreed to get married (and also if your parents have agreed). So now you just need to set a date to get married You are technically engaged till you get married.

 

[Brasco]

yes nikah IS the marriage- the nikah marries you to her...as the nikah is done she is Islamically your wife...so you CAN hug/etc her

Ah, okay!! now I got it thank you sis!! may allah ta'ala reward you!!

 

[Brasco]

Tell her marriage will show how much you love each other...an engagement is a pale imitation. Technically you are engaged as you have both agreed to get married (and also if your parents have agreed). So now you just need to set a date to get married You are technically engaged till you get married.

What if the parents are against the marriage? will I be allowed to marry her still? :S

 

[Asiyah3]

but the other brother said, that it is not possible :S now I am confused! is not nikah a part of marriage ?? :S

salaamu aleykum, bro. Before marriage you can't hug her. I believe the others meant that after engagement you can't touch her (before you're married).

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[sarah85]

What if the parents are against the marriage? will I be allowed to marry her still? :S

Well her dad needs to be in agreement as she needs a wali for the marriage to be valid. However Islamically you do not need your parents permission as men do not require a wali.

 

[Abdul Fattah]

Selam aleykum
some people see the nikah as engagement, and then the weddingparty or government wedding as the real wedding. This however is not the Islamic position. In Islam there's only two status. Either you didn't yet have the nikah (=Islamic wedding), in which case you are non-mahram to each other, and the normal rules of conduct apply, just as they apply to any given stranger. Or you had the nikah meaning, that from an Islamic perspective you are already husband and wife.

Although of course one can, in words, express their desire and intent to marry, such an "engagement" doesn't have any bearing on the rules of Islam, on what is allowed and what isn't allowed.

 

[Brasco]

salaamu aleykum, bro. Before marriage you can't hug her. I believe the others meant that after engagement you can't touch her (before you're married).

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I know that I can not hug her before that cuz even I can not shake her hand how can I hug her now ??!! Insha'allah after marriage I can hug her as long as I want

 

[Brasco]

Well her dad needs to be in agreement as she needs a wali for the marriage to be valid. However Islamically you do not need your parents permission as men do not require a wali.

if my parents are against it, and they are not happy with it, so it is like that I sin?! :S there is a hadith which says, that allah ta'alla will accept nothing of us unless the parents are happy with us....

 

[Brasco]

Selam aleykum
some people see the nikah as engagement, and then the weddingparty or government wedding as the real wedding. This however is not the Islamic position. In Islam there's only two status. Either you didn't yet have the nikah (=Islamic wedding), in which case you are non-mahram to each other, and the normal rules of conduct apply, just as they apply to any given stranger. Or you had the nikah meaning, that from an Islamic perspective you are already husband and wife.

Although of course one can, in words, express their desire and intent to marry, such an "engagement" doesn't have any bearing on the rules of Islam, on what is allowed and what isn't allowed.

no no no, I do not care the government wedding things or having a party

 

[sarah85]

if my parents are against it, and they are not happy with it, so it is like that I sin?! :S there is a hadith which says, that allah ta'alla will accept nothing of us unless the parents are happy with us....

Yes one should keep parents happy and obey them but when it comes to marriage I think its different. Men do not require their parents permission therefore it is no sin on them to get married without their parents permission. Yes they should get the advice of their parents as its always good to do so and involve their parents in their marriage as anyone would want to. I am sure you can talk your parents around...most parents are lovely like that and because they love us only want our happiness

 

[Ar-RaYYan]

Maybe I am naive but i was shocked recently when i heard that some people have engagement parties :exhausted

 

[KiWi]

^ there’s nothing shocking abt it
now a days, its very common
not only do they have engagement parties, they have bridal showers as well
in my opinion, they are big waste of money n time

 

[Ar-RaYYan]

^ there’s nothing shocking abt it
now a days, its very common
not only do they have engagement parties, they have bridal showers as well
in my opinion, they are big waste of money n time

but its kind of shocking when those who are doing it happen to be practising.
yeah weddings are expensive as its why go and waste money on these fitna things as most of these engagement parties tend to be mixed

 

[KiWi]

but its kind of shocking when those who are doing it happen to be practising.

oh, i see how it would be shocking to u
assuming that it doesn’t happen in ur community?
in my community, many practicing ppl do have engagement parties/bridal showers n all other nonsense

yeah weddings are expensive as its why go and waste money on these fitna things as most of these engagement parties tend to be mixed

that’s so true
nice way to build up sins after sins

 

[Ar-RaYYan]

oh, i see how it would be shocking to u
assuming that it doesn’t happen in ur community?

It depends by what you mean by 'community'? people from the same culture or range of different cultures and races of people living in the same area?

for the first part im not sure. i havent witnessed anyone doing it yet and the latter i have heard that they do it as most people who dont practice tend to but i was kind of surprised that someone i know (who practise the deen btw) will be doing it coz it has become a 'family thing'

 

[Cabdullahi]

bridal showers

what the heck is bridal shower?!......the bride doesnt wash herself for a year and then when its engagement time she has a shower??