Simple, logical arguments to prove the existence of God

[CosmicPathos]

Your hoped-for slight directed at Atheism and your slur toward the science of evolution had the opposite effect. You'll find the evidence for major evolution is vast and overwhelming. I'll be pleased to provide additional data sources at your request.

Unfortunately, your entire premise is terribly flawed. I see this frequently. My suspicion is that you have been coached by religious entities who certainly have a vested interest in placating your desire to believe the religious tales and fables in lieu of hard facts.

Meaning, of course that the "apes into human beings" nonsense displays a fundamental lack of understanding and knowledge on your part. Man was never an ape. Man was never descended from an ape. Man and primates shared a common ancestor but branched off in separate directions. That's not at all uncommon in evolutionary history, by the way, for species to diverge in different directions while sharing a common ancestry.

If your hope was to denigrate science and to disparage Atheism, you failed.

If you wanted to sound intelligent by writing that, then no, YOU failed. You are not smart. You actually failed to discover that man arose from primitives. You just memorized it and posted it on forums as if its your discovery.

 

[Holly]

were you not the maggot that was just annexed from this forum?

someone pls look into this person's account.. I am not in the mood to kid handle every bruised ego!

That was quite a compelling rebuttal to my posted comments... or were you thinking that childish name-calling made you sound wiser than your years?

 

[Holly]

If you wanted to sound intelligent by writing that, then no, YOU failed. You are not smart. You actually failed to discover that man arose from primitives. You just memorized it and posted it on forums as if its your discovery.

Yet another failed attempt to address my comments.

 

[barney]

Yet another failed attempt to address my comments.

Holly, I dont know who you were, but if you've been booted from a forum its pretty bad form to return for a few more blows.

Just let it lie. There are still som of us here who will carry on the torch for freethought, humanity and rationalism.

Bye and best of luck.

 

[Holly]

Holly, I dont know who you were, but if you've been booted from a forum its pretty bad form to return for a few more blows.

Just let it lie. There are still som of us here who will carry on the torch for freethought, humanity and rationalism.

Bye and best of luck.

I have not been booted from this forum. I think the prior poster was suffering some hurt feelings at being taken to task for rude and obnoxious behavior.

 

[جوري]

Sounding a little scared there!
But what is this?

You are able to hear sounds on a forum? interesting!

All prophetic medicine might not be efficacious?

Do you have something in specific you wish to discuss here?

6 IQ points isnt a piddling amount,its a statistical significance.

Where is the 6 points? and how was the study done? random calls to dawkin vs. bubbah from the deep south? or a random double blind?

This , as you will surely know is just one of many studies which confirm that, for whatever reason, the religious are of lower intelligence than the non-religious. Reasons why that might be are not addressed in the study.
Have I got a link to the full study? Naah, it was presented last year in a lecture to me covering its scope and the data produced. I wiki'd it up for your delight.

It is unfortunate how often you confabulate on these threads and how desperate for establishment!

More than happy to continue this. Perhaps a 6% drop in IQ isnt statistical measured against your own mighty cortex of gargantuan megabrainage, but to the rest of us mere mortals with an average IQ of 100,(Or like my own IQ of 117), it certainly makes you ponder the reasons.

I never considered you a contender.. I find your entire approach hilarious. If all else fails look for something so intangible to make a non-point which doesn't even relate to the topic.. I mean where do I begin?

The statistics are not in doubt, and i will no doubt (as you are eager for me to do so!;D ) pull out some more studies. Hmm, but anything not fitting your preconceived dogma would be trashed as worthless, regard;less of what the finest brains on the planet discover!

You do that!

More honest really though to debate the Why and not the If, for the If is not in doubt.

I don't understand drivel.. try to form cohesive, complete sentences.. it is good to laugh at your own wit, but even better when folks get your wit lest you be deemed a nut!

My own take on it?
Religion is easier to understand. It requires less effort to accept than to disbeleive. Those who take the effort to investigate are those who succeed at post grad level. Those who take the effort to investigate find better explainations for existance than god did it TM

Do you need validation that you constantly have to tinkle your pearls even though it is clearly elucidated, that there is no effort whatsoever goes into becoming an atheist.. you've neither conceded the obvious nor shared a lucid, coherent, reproducible scientific evidence to the world we find ourselves in.

all the best and try not to be so emotionally invested in things said here.. it would be a shame you'd die early of an ulcer or heart disease when you only get one stab to make it worth while!

all the best

 

[barney]

I have not been booted from this forum. I think the prior poster was suffering some hurt feelings at being taken to task for rude and obnoxious behavior.

Umm, you have four posts. They all pertain to a previous conversation.

That methinks is pretty good evidence?

Just let it lie, find somewhere else. I returned here after a few years away to carry on debates, but I left of my ownn accord. Getting kicked means "dont come back" Its quite rude to just make a new account?
Thats giving atheists a bad name IMO.

 

[Froggy]

I have listed several confounders above, one I consider most important happens to be the large disparity between atheists and theists disabling this study from having any real values. However half or slightly more than half the population are girls..and the board of education produces the numbers yearly for your consideration.

That's what I mentioned it, the confounders are similar. The disparity between girls who go to girls school and those in mixed environments is also large.
This is a case of favoring certain studies over others because they fit what one already believes.

 

[جوري]

Yet another failed attempt to address my comments.

who are you? you inject yourself half way through a thread and expect a salutation? If you have a grievance try to post a separate thread and see if a member here takes interest. I can't be made to humor every gadfly that comes in the middle of as thread to meander it in some other direction.


all the best

 

[CosmicPathos]

Yet another failed attempt to address my comments.

There is nothing to address. Just some stupid claims.

 

[Holly]

who are you? you inject yourself half way through a thread and expect a salutation? If you have a grievance try to post a separate thread and see if a member here takes interest. I can't be made to humor every gadfly that comes in the middle of as thread to meander it in some other direction.


all the best

Actually, who are you? I posted a comment in response to your uneducated comment regarding Atheism and apes which you sidestepped by hurling childish insults.

Several posts later, you are still falling to floor and stomping your feet like a scolded child for an inability to address my comments. You're displaying very bad form.

 

[Holly]

There is nothing to address. Just some stupid claims.

Is this board drenched with spammers who can't address posted comments?

 

[CosmicPathos]

Actually, who are you? I posted a comment in response to your uneducated comment regarding Atheism and apes which you sidestepped by hurling childish insults.

Several posts later, you are still falling to floor and stomping your feet like a scolded child for an inability to address my comments. You're displaying very bad form.

She actually understands what you are "trying" to say.

Be it ape ancestor or that apes and humans share a common ancestor, its all the same for Barney. He is just evolved from animals. Actually, apes are still a bit smarter than lets say, a boar?

 

[CosmicPathos]

Is this board drenched with spammers who can't address posted comments?

Is this board drenched with atheist spammers who keep on spreading the spam?

 

[Holly]

She actually understands what you are "trying" to say.

Be it ape ancestor or that apes and humans share a common ancestor, its all the same for Barney. He is just evolved from animals. Actually, apes are still a bit smarter than lets say, a boar?

Is it really all the same for Barney? Are you authorized to speak on his behalf?

 

[Holly]

Is this board drenched with atheist spammers who keep on spreading the spam?

And still no ability to address my comments.

 

[CosmicPathos]

Is it really all the same for Barney? Are you authorized to speak on his behalf?

Well, he himself said that he is a product of long chain of evolution from primitives. I am just restating what he said about himself.

Any doubt?

 

[CosmicPathos]

And still no ability to address my comments.

hey man, I cannot address foolish comments.

 

[Holly]

Well, he himself said that he is a product of long chain of evolution from primitives. I am just restating what he said about himself.

Any doubt?

Yes, I have doubts. Why not post a link to the thread with that exact statement? Or should we expect a lot af backtracking as you hope to revise your comment?

 

[جوري]

That's what I mentioned it, the confounders are similar. The disparity between girls who go to girls school and those in mixed environments is also large.
This is a case of favoring certain studies over others because they fit what one already believes.

They are not similar at all..
you really need to familiarize yourself with types of studies, power of study and choice test, for instance you do a cross sectional when interested in prevalence, cohort provides incidence to relative risk, case control for odds ratio (between two binary datas) which treats two variables symmetrically (these are all observational) while randomized control are the only ones with experimental type design--sample size is very important to give power and statistical significance to the study, plus define the purpose of your study, number of groups you are using, level of measurements and distribution of the data.
Now can you tell me the type of research that was done for Barny's little manifesto to hold any credence compared to data collected annually by the board of education, before I can find some semblance of similarity?

all the best