Saudi Arabia to Israel: 'Our skies are free any time you want to attack Iran'

[Woodrow]

Re: Argamemnon

I don't know if you are referring to the Iran-Iraq war, but this war was started by Saddam Hussein and backed by the U.S. and the west in order to punish Iran for overthrowing the puppet shah, who was a brutal tyrant installed by the U.S.

It goes back much further all the way back to fall of the Persian empire. Conflicts between Arabs and Iranians go back to ancient history. It dates back at least to the time of the Persian king Shapour II, who reigned during the 7 Century CE

 

[aadil77]

Sadly it is true it is illegal to teach Arabic in Iran at least in the Arabic Districts if not all of Iran. However, I have never met an Iranian who could read and write Arabic and never saw an Arabic Qur'an in any Iranian home. In the Masjids the prayers are said in Farsi. I posted two sources in my above posts.

Really ? I thought they only had a problem with sunni's, but they also have a problem with a language SubhanAllah, I wonder how difficult it is to actually practice islam in iran.

I've been to a shia masjid they prayed in arabic, is it part of shia'ism to not pray in arabic or read the arabic Quran?

 

[Woodrow]

Really ? I thought they only had a problem with sunni's, but they also have a problem with a language SubhanAllah, I wonder how difficult it is to actually practice islam in iran.

I've been to a shia masjid they prayed in arabic, is it part of shia'ism to not pray in arabic or read the arabic Quran?

It is more part of Iranian culture. All non Iranian Shia I know pray in Arabic. There is very strong prejudice against Arabs in Iran, they have some very unflattering nicknames for Arabs, which I will never repeat to anybody. Before I sound like I am anti-Iranian I will add I know many Iranians who are very warm friendly people without a drop of prejudice against anybody. But it does seem that a very large percentage of the Iran Government is anti-Arab

 

[Argamemnon]

Sadly it is true it is illegal to teach Arabic in Iran at least in the Arabic Districts if not all of Iran. However, I have never met an Iranian who could read and write Arabic and never saw an Arabic Qur'an in any Iranian home. In the Masjids the prayers are said in Farsi. I posted two sources in my above posts.

If true, then I oppose such policies but let's not forget that many countries are equally oppressive. Until recently, it was illegal to speak Kurdish in Turkey.

 

[Woodrow]

If true, then I oppose such policies but let's not forget that many countries are equally oppressive. Until recently, it was illegal to speak Kurdish in Turkey.

True, but it does not hinder our practice of Islam if we are not permitted to learn Kurdish. It poses some difficulty if we were prohibited from learning Arabic. I believe there would be quite an outcry if the USA prohibited the learning of Arabic.

 

[omar ibrahim]

You can understand why the Iranians are defending their culture so fiercely. They've already adopted the religion of the Arabs- why adopt more Arab culture by teaching the language? It's nationalistic, and extreme, but you can understand why a people would defend their language so fiercely when they've adopted a religion that has somewhat erased a part of their cultural heritage.

well,I thought you have a good knowledge about islam but now i think you know nothing about islam except for few things,you dont know aqeeda creed etc.

Do you know that the word Quran means something has already been recited so when you recite the quran in persian language its no longer a Quran.For you as a christian

it means nothing for you since you dont have the original new testament which is in Aramic,one of the sematic language,but for us muslims it means a lot and it has

nothing to do with extremeism.

 

[Supreme]

well,I thought you have a good knowledge about islam but now i think you know nothing about islam except for few things,you dont know aqeeda creed etc.

Do you know that the word Quran means something has already been recited so when you recite the quran in persian language its no longer a Quran.For you as a christian

it means nothing for you since you dont have the original new testament which is in Aramic,one of the sematic language,but for us muslims it means a lot and it has

nothing to do with extremeism.

You'd consider banning Arabic a moderate measure? I'd hate to see your idea of an extreme measure.

 

[Argamemnon]

It is more part of Iranian culture. All non Iranian Shia I know pray in Arabic. There is very strong prejudice against Arabs in Iran, they have some very unflattering nicknames for Arabs, which I will never repeat to anybody. Before I sound like I am anti-Iranian I will add I know many Iranians who are very warm friendly people without a drop of prejudice against anybody. But it does seem that a very large percentage of the Iran Government is anti-Arab

This is exactly what the West wants, Iranians and Arabs and Turks to hate each other for eternity. I would hope that Muslims have had enough of humiliation and suffering at the hands of kafir western enemies. Also, in my experience, a very large number of Iranians living abroad are traitors and anti-Islam.

 

[Ramadhan]

Sadly it is true it is illegal to teach Arabic in Iran at least in the Arabic Districts if not all of Iran. However, I have never met an Iranian who could read and write Arabic and never saw an Arabic Qur'an in any Iranian home. In the Masjids the prayers are said in Farsi. I posted two sources in my above posts.

Wow. This information is completely new to me.

How can they be muslims if they do such things.

My views of the iranians are completely changed now.

 

[Ramadhan]

well,I thought you have a good knowledge about islam but now i think you know nothing about islam except for few things,you dont know aqeeda creed etc.

Do you know that the word Quran means something has already been recited so when you recite the quran in persian language its no longer a Quran.For you as a christian

it means nothing for you since you dont have the original new testament which is in Aramic,one of the sematic language,but for us muslims it means a lot and it has

nothing to do with extremeism.

I wouldnt waste my time and energy on supreme.

He is completely ignorant about islam, and loves nothing than projecting Christianity's shortcomings and illogical creed towards Islam.

 

[Woodrow]

This is exactly what the West wants, Iranians and Arabs and Turks to hate each other for eternity. I would hope that Muslims have had enough of humiliation and suffering at the hands of kafir western enemies. Also, in my experience, a very large number of Iranians living abroad are traitors and anti-Islam.

The largest Iranian community in the world, outside of Tehran is in in California USA. Nearly all Iranians outside of Iran live in Canada and the USA . But I do not know of even one Iranian community outside of Iran that claims to be Muslim.

Here are a few very interesting links to look over and think about:

http://www.america.gov/st/texttrans-english/2009/April/20090407180055ptellivremos0.1211817.html


http://jeffweintraub.blogspot.com/2006/09/why-iranians-like-america-washington.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2008/0603/p09s02-coop.html

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/90154

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/points/stories/DN-movaeni_29edi.ART.State.Edition1.4da04bb.html

http://www.iranparadise.com/

 

[questioner8]

only someone with short sighted intelligence and intellect would come up with such a short sighted remark.

look whose talking.

How about answering the point I made?

Firstly, on the 'Arabic' is the language of the koran and therefore allah!
How can it be that knowledge and understanding of 'Arabic' is necessary to understand allah and islam?
There must be millions/billions of ordinary muslims through the centuries who for many reasons could/would not be able to learn 'Arabic'!
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Notwithstanding, that the revelations of allah(supposedly) to the peoples of the book(Jews & Christians) were written down in Hebrew and Greek!
Very confusing and inconsistent!

who said the actions of the shia has anything to do with Islam? who says they are fighting in the name of Islam?

you seem to be getting your wires crossed. not a very consistent thing to do.

Are you saying that you have no knowledge of Iran and Ahmadinejad's obsession with the return of the mahdi?
And the support and enabling of hamas who are islam's supposed holy warriors against the Jews and whose charter declares their avowed intention to wipe Israel off the map?

Iranian President Mahmoud's Ahmadinejad's mystical pre-occupation with the coming of a Shiite Islamic messiah figure – the Mahdi – is raising concerns that a nuclear-armed Islamic Republic could trigger the kind of global conflagration he envisions will set the stage for the end of the world.
While Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has been making headlines lately by questioning whether the Holocaust actually happened, by suggesting Israel should be moved to Europe and by demanding the Jewish state be wiped off the face of the earth, his apocalyptic religious zealotry has received less attention. In a videotaped meeting with Ayatollah Javadi-Amoli in Tehran, Ahmadinejad discussed candidly a strange, paranormal experience he had while addressing the United Nations in New York last September.
He recounts how he found himself bathed in light throughout the speech. But this wasn't the light directed at the podium by the U.N. and television cameras. It was, he said, a light from heaven.