Question for teh boys!..!..

[Danah]

There is a grace and mystery about the woman in a veil, and a curiosity about who she is. There is a rare aura around her, which is not around other women, even though they may be modestly dressed. Her confidence, courage, strength of character and Identity cannot be compared. She is rare. You sense an invisible protection and barrier around her, and no man dare speak to her without permission - or dare mess with her. You are only left with admiration and inspiration.

That is why the western men are threatened by the veiled woman especially. Because she aims for the highest levels of obedience to Allaah, despite the practice of the society she lives in. She is a woman of substance. And a woman of substance produces children of substance - who leave behind legacies like Salah hud deen.

Very nice wording!
I guess sisters who wear niqab while walking in streets full of men and non-hijabi girls know what sis Pixie means very well!!

 

[Cabdullahi]

hair and all?

you're asking too much son!....they'll put a machete to your neck and slowly slice away

 

[Vigno]

you're asking too much son!....they'll put a machete to your neck and slowly slice away

Lol yes I guess so too

 

[Caller الداعي]

veil for me !

 

[~Raindrop~]

You didn't mention the different types of Niqabis:

i. Fully covered, plain, loose abayah, decent niqab.

ii. 'covered', fitted, flashy, designer abayah. (who in their right mind can pay £400 for an abayah? :skeleton Oh, and the abayah plus niqab has all these gorgeous little beady diamondy things all over it too.
:heated:

iii. T-shirt and jeans, niqab. I even spotted a scarf-less one once.

On a more serious note...

May Allah SWT guide us all, and grant us the ability to act upon the true teachings of Islam

 

[Rhubarb Tart]

hair and all?

no! just the face!

 

[Cabdullahi]

no! just the face!

why whats wrong with the hair?



its a silly joke

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

no not hair and all but enough to see if he is attracted to her...

yep thats what i thought




and thats more then enough for real

 

[Muhammad]

Assalaamu Alaykum,

Why are we, as Muslims, using terms like "ninja"? At least when discussing it amongst ourselves we should use correct terminology that is not derogatory towards our deen.

Niqab is something that is well established in Islam - scholars only differed as to whether it's recommended or obligatory. But no scholar said it is something alien to Islam (refer to the video below). Hence those people finding it too extreme or conservative should research this matter. Perhaps what it comes down to is a lack of eemaan or understanding of this issue. I see wearing the Niqab as a similar jihad to wearing the beard - they represent a great strength of character in such a deteriorating society, and we know that the more difficult it is to do a good deed the more reward there is from Allaah (swt).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZe44SX0EBo

 

[sabr*]

Question to the Muslim men!

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Muhammad :

The spirit of the thread reveals a lot about how Muslims think about Hijab, Niqab and non Hijab. It is human instinct to defend what they practice. The derogatory terms are a result of the Western conditioning which many Muslims usually don't purge from their psyche.

Even if one has moderate or liberal views in implementing Islam they acknowledge they are in a Islamic forum.

The armchair Muslim that imposes the extremist views on others why they don't impose it on themselves.

Using the Preview Post should be used everytime.

Surah Baqarah 2:44

44. Enjoin you Al-Birr (piety and righteousness and each and every act of obedience to Allâh) on the people and you forget (to practise it) yourselves, while you recite the Scripture [the Taurât (Torah)]! Have you then no sense? (Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan translation)​

 

[أحمد]

Assalaamu Alaykum,

Why are we, as Muslims, using terms like "ninja"? At least when discussing it amongst ourselves we should use correct terminology that is not derogatory towards our deen.

Niqab is something that is well established in Islam - scholars only differed as to whether it's recommended or obligatory. But no scholar said it is something alien to Islam (refer to the video below). Hence those people finding it too extreme or conservative should research this matter. Perhaps what it comes down to is a lack of eemaan or understanding of this issue. I see wearing the Niqab as a similar jihad to wearing the beard - they represent a great strength of character in such a deteriorating society, and we know that the more difficult it is to do a good deed the more reward there is from Allaah (swt).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZe44SX0EBo

Misuse of words isn't uncommon; it can be misleading or derogatory, but people don't always think before they do. And those who think; may not always be aware.

The word ninja is quite misleading even if not used as a derogatory term; not all niqabis are highly skilled in ninjutsu.

:wa:

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

sabr said it

also, ninja isnt deemed an insult or derogatory in our minds


ALthough i personally never use it, nothing can replace the word Niqaabi, much cooler then "ninja"

 

[Alpha Dude]

Assalaamu Alaykum,
Why are we, as Muslims, using terms like "ninja"? At least when discussing it amongst ourselves we should use correct terminology that is not derogatory towards our deen.

Wa alaykum salam,

Thank you for the reminder, brother.

 

[Soulja Girl]

what if I were to counter question and say would you b put off by a decently groomed fist length beard

^No... Not at all...

What if I were to say would you be put off by a brother who has no beard but has a nice personality..

^No again... I know keepin a beard is sunnah buh if prince charmin were to come along & he was perfect in every way buh jus didn't have a beard, I wouldn't turn him down..

What people wear/might not wear don't justify what's on the inside...

@ OP: whats wrong with being a ninja :><: i dont know why people feel uneased about a sister covering her face...i think it looks wicked.

^Nothing wrong at all... Totally agree wiv you wiv the wicked part... It makes a woman feel secure...

not wanting a niqaabi wife is something, but if a guy doesn't want a niqabi wife becuase he doesn't acknowledge it is from the sunnah, or it is too much of a shame to be seen with a wife who covers her face (pure idiot that guy is), or as you said he thinks its extreme, tell him to walk!

the thing is, it isn't about not wanting a niqaabi wife per se, but rather that he sees a legitimate part of the sunnah to be unacceptable/extreme. that's worrisome.

^That's what I'm tryna say.. A dude might like a girl but jus cuz of the fact that she covers herself, he'd turn her away... Believe me they are people like this... What the hell are they playin at?? Or a girl might turn a guy down jus cuz he's got a beard... :raging: Yea, am tawkin bou Muslims here... Face reality, we're living in the 21st century & there are only a number of pious youth... Hell yeaaa it's worrisome and sad...

Alhamdulillah, we interact with such pious brothers on this forum.

^You can say that again... Allahumma zid fazid...

You didn't mention the different types of Niqabis:

i. Fully covered, plain, loose abayah, decent niqab.

ii. 'covered', fitted, flashy, designer abayah. (who in their right mind can pay £400 for an abayah? :skeleton Oh, and the abayah plus niqab has all these gorgeous little beady diamondy things all over it too.
:heated:

iii. T-shirt and jeans, niqab. I even spotted a scarf-less one once.

On a more serious note...

May Allah SWT guide us all, and grant us the ability to act upon the true teachings of Islam

^Sadly, some abayah jus beat the purpose of covering ones self...

Ameen at your dua!

:wa:

 

[Alpha Dude]

^No again... I know keepin a beard is sunnah buh if prince charmin were to come along & he was perfect in every way buh jus didn't have a beard, I wouldn't turn him down..

Each has their own criteria but someone not keeping a sunnah beard (which is actually near compulsory) due to thinking it is not necessary/not from the deen/not worth anything means this person is far from being perfect. I wouldn't recommend such a person for marriage to a God conscious and Islamically focused muslimah.

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

Each has their own criteria but someone not keeping a sunnah beard (which is actually near compulsory) due to thinking it is not necessary/not from the deen/not worth anything means this person is far from being perfect. I wouldn't recommend such a person for marriage to a God conscious and Islamically focused muslimah.

Same.


Need at least a bit of something, Im not saying grow fist length (although you should), im saying if your weak - dont be clean shaven weak

 

[Soulja Girl]

Each has their own criteria but someone not keeping a sunnah beard (which is actually near compulsory) due to thinking it is not necessary/not from the deen/not worth anything means this person is far from being perfect. I wouldn't recommend such a person for marriage to a God conscious and Islamically focused muslimah.

^So... You think a God conscious and Islamically focused muslimah deserves someone better? :><:

What would you call a person who dun wanna keep a beard cuz he wants ter just "fit in wiv the crowd & look kewl" but doesn't have anyfin against it? :?

:wa:

 

[_Jannah_]

You have no ideas how Muslim guys operate do you? :skeleton: Let me break it down for you, at least the way I see it and the way that the brothers I know see it.

A girl that doesn't cover up, that doesn't at the very least wear Hijaab, be she Muslim or not, yeah she might look attractive and catch a guys attention, but no brother would seriously consider her anything more than someone that looks pretty in the sense of approaching her for marriage or something meaningful. I live in a place where if you walk down the street, you'll see beautiful women from all around the world and past the lowering the gaze aspect, I'm not attracted to them in a way that would make me want to go after them because there's no way that I'm going to marry someone that dresses that way. She might be a great person, great personality, caring, but I, personally speaking, won't be able get past the way she dresses, if it's immodest.

On the other hand, a sister that dresses modestly, jilbaab/hijaab or even niqaab, she's way more attractive than those women that hardly dress. Why? Because they're the ones that brothers can consider as a future wife and therefore turn out to be more fitnah in that sense than a girl that's wearing a mini-skirt - because at the end of the day this girl that's dressing awesomely modest, she might just end up being potential wife material.

Lastly, I highly doubt I'll end up marrying a niqaabi, but I'll definitely say that niqaabis are awesome. As for how brothers see them, then I've seen three different views. One group doesn't mind and would actually prefer it, second believes its too conservative and don't think its necessary, a hijaab/jilbaab/modest clothing is sufficient, and a third group which are impartial, they leave it up to the sister, if she wears it, cool, if she doesn't thats cool too. I tend to think it's a bit conservative, but I don't mind it, hijaab/jilbaab is awesome, but at the end of the day, it's up to the sister.

Why do you highly doubt that you would marry a niqaabi?

 

[Alpha Dude]

^So... You think a God conscious and Islamically focused muslimah deserves someone better? :><:

What would you call a person who dun wanna keep a beard cuz he wants ter just "fit in wiv the crowd & look kewl" but doesn't have anyfin against it? :?

Wa alaykum salam,

Yes. I do think so.

Not perfect, for one thing. There is a clearly deficiency in such a person iman wise. This doesn't mean I'm being holier than thou or judging such a person but when people don't desire to follow sunnah, then that's a definite negative attribute.

Think about it this way: Allah has made man khalif of the household. It is his duty to guide toward practising Islam fully and protecting the wife and kids from falling into deeni (and wordly) harm. The akhira is infintely more important than the dunya. If a muslimah is concerned for her hereafter, she should marry someone that has the same kind of concern. Somebody that doesn't desire to follow sunnah clearly does not meet this requirement. In all likelihood, he is going to be lax and under his khilafat things are not going to be completely Islamically run. He won't have the desire to stamp out fitnah.

Prince charming is all fairy tale. Don't buy the romantic 'he's such a kind sweetheart' stuff. Go for a guy that is likely to better you in deen and protect you, even if it means he is being 'harsh' to you.

For example, a guy that protects his wife (by forbidding her) from going out to meet her friends that regular partake in backbiting and gossiping over afternoon tea is 100% better than a guy who couldn't care less and gives his wife supposed 'freedom' (let's face it, a lot of sisters would think this guy is the answer to their dreams).

Firmness is a necessity in deen and it shouldn't be seen as backward/controlling behaviour.
He could be the best and kindest person and give you the world but if he can't help you get closer to Allah and his religion (even if it means by him being controlling and forcing out some bad habits you have), then what use is he?

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

^So... You think a God conscious and Islamically focused muslimah deserves someone better? :><:

What would you call a person who dun wanna keep a beard cuz he wants ter just "fit in wiv the crowd & look kewl" but doesn't have anyfin against it? :?

:wa:

i personally find those types insulting

islams not cool?