Israel Fire

[Ramadhan]

When did U.S. aid to Israel begin?

Israel is the recipient of the largest US foreign grant, year after year after year, until Iraq got invaded.
In fact, Israelis receive larger federal aid than american citizens, per capita basis, every year.
And that excludes other indirect aid, such as trade preferential treatments, foreign loans, joint defense, etc.

 

[GuestFellow]

When did U.S. aid to Israel begin?

Read this:

http://mearsheimer.uchicago.edu/pdfs/A0040.pdf

Let me give you a hint

I don't need any.

 

[Muezzin]

The thread's about a forest fire in Israel, folks.

Please stick to the topic, because nobody likes deleted posts.

 

[ya.azad]

The Palestinian authority has chosen to be a separate entity than the Israeli government. It is the same as any other country refusing another country's citizens a visa. Israeli Arabs may come and go as they wish.

 

[جوري]

The Palestinian authority has chosen to be a separate entity than the Israeli government. It is the same as any other country refusing another country's citizens a visa. Israeli Arabs may come and go as they wish.

The thread's about a forest fire in Israel, folks. Please stick to the topic, because nobody likes deleted posts.

Believe me nothing you can write of Israel will change anyone's mind.. there are those who love it and I pity them and those who hate it and I am amongst them.. neutrality can't exist here!

all the best

 

[Dagless]

The Palestinian authority has chosen to be a separate entity than the Israeli government. It is the same as any other country refusing another country's citizens a visa. Israeli Arabs may come and go as they wish.

I think overall this is a misleading statement about comparing it to other countries and calling it normal. You cannot even travel the whole of Palestine without going through Israel. If someone wanted to go from the West Bank to Gaza, they'd have to travel through Israel. Once Israel stops occupying land and blockading people it can turn away Palestinians from entering, but while it's imprisoning them it seems more than a little unfair to have any sort of control on Palestinian movement.

 

[ya.azad]

It is clearly not a normal situation. I am simply saying that if there was no independent Palestinian Authority, this would be a non-issue.
It may be unfair, but the israeli government views it as necessary for its security.

 

[جوري]

views it as necessary for its security.

They'll have as much security as much as a thief has a clear conscious ..

all the best

 

[ChargerCarl]

Are the fires under control? I have to deal with these things all the time in Southern California, they suck.

 

[sister herb]

It is clearly not a normal situation. I am simply saying that if there was no independent Palestinian Authority, this would be a non-issue.
It may be unfair, but the israeli government views it as necessary for its security.

Is security of israel more important than security of Palestinians?

I don´t think so. Why it should be?

 

[ChargerCarl]

Is security of israel more important than security of Palestinians?

I don´t think so. Why it should be?

It is to Israel. Every nation acts out of self-interest.

 

[Woodrow]

Beginning in the 1800's we moved Native americans out of their homelands and were generous enough to "give" them desolate land as a free gift. Even if we didn't own the land and it was theirs to begin with.

We were also kind enough to let them live on this free land unmolested and without benefits, except on the occasions when gold and/or oil was found on those lands.


Hmmm, why do I keep seeing a parallel between the Wasichu treatment of Native Americans and the treatment of Palestinians by Israelis?

 

[ChargerCarl]

Because it is similar. The weak make way for the strong.

 

[Muezzin]

This thread has been going for a week, has strayed off-topic and shows no signs of returning to it.

In light of this, I am closing this thread.