Sh. Yasir Burhami on the Death of Sh. Usama Bin Laden

[titus]

I know Bin Laden never admitted to 9/11 but does anyone know if he admit to the embassy attacks in Africa? or any attack which killed innocents?

If he did and the quote was posted then Bin Laden supporters would simply come and say he never said it and that it is all part of the conspiracy. Makes it pointless to bring them up, much less provide links to them. But yes, he did admit his involvement in those attacks.

For those that want to excuse Bin Laden, or even worse make him a hero, please look at how many Muslims have died at the hands of Al Qaeda over the last 10 years.

You want to make him a symbol of oppression against Muslims? Go ahead, but you are lionizing a mass murderer of Muslims. His philosophy was to kill Muslims who did not share his views, and his people killed more Muslims than the US over the last 10 years. What a hero, huh?

 

[جوري]

You want to make him a symbol of oppression against Muslims? Go ahead, but you are lionizing a mass murderer of Muslims. His philosophy was to kill Muslims who did not share his views, and his people killed more Muslims than the US over the last 10 years. What a hero, huh?

That is what you and your ilk parrot, but has no basis in actuality!

all the best

 

[titus]

Really? Then please give us specifics as to what this man accomplished that makes him a Muslim hero to you.

All I have seen so far is "He stood up against the West" but no specifics, yet when specifics are given showing that he targeted innocents you say it was all fake. So tell us exactly what is the truth and what is fake. What makes this man a true martyr?

 

[Cabdullahi]

Really? Then please give us specifics as to what this man accomplished that makes him a Muslim hero to you.

All I have seen so far is "He stood up against the West" but no specifics, yet when specifics are given showing that he targeted innocents you say it was all fake. So tell us exactly what is the truth and what is fake. What makes this man a true martyr?

He left the luxurious life...to put his life on the line for the sake of Allah...fighting the soviets at a time when all the Texas people loved him

 

[titus]

Come now. He fought the Soviets? What else. Surely he is not the hero because he fought the Soviets. What makes him so popular to all you posters?

 

[جوري]

Really? Then please give us specifics as to what this man accomplished that makes him a Muslim hero to you.

All I have seen so far is "He stood up against the West" but no specifics, yet when specifics are given showing that he targeted innocents you say it was all fake. So tell us exactly what is the truth and what is fake. What makes this man a true martyr?

I never said he was hero or a Villain. Only God knows of his hosts on this earth.. it isn't up to repuke cons and fundies to tell us who is righteous and who isn't!!.. I have summed up in a few words all I know of him, he gave up his wealth for what he believed as opposed to say someone like alwaleed bin talal-- what you think you know of him is meaningless and inconsequential, so you should quit your psychobabble I am so sick of it and especially those Muslims who leave me hate PMs thinking somehow coaxing kaffirs further in their hypocrisy is going to afford them the good life.. Just go celebrate his death as others celebrate pictures displaying their sick sadomasochism .. the streets of NYC are filled of your ilk go show some solidarity!

 

[titus]

I never said he was hero or a Villain.

No, you just said that the only thing you knew about him was that he gave up his wealth to fight the West. It's not hard to read between the lines. Others on this forum are much more forthcoming with their reverence for this man.

Just go celebrate his death as others celebrate pictures displaying their sick sadomasochism .. the streets of NYC are filled of your ilk go show some solidarity!

I have already stated my disdain for "celebrating" his death. Maybe you have me confused with someone else? Then again maybe you were not addressing me in the second half of that paragraph. It is hard to tell sometimes as you tend to ramble in your posts.

 

[جوري]

No, you just said that the only thing you knew about him was that he gave up his wealth to fight the West. It's not hard to read between the lines. Others on this forum are much more forthcoming with their reverence for this man.



I have already stated my disdain for "celebrating" his death. Maybe you have me confused with someone else? Then again maybe you were not addressing me in the second half of that paragraph. It is hard to tell sometimes as you tend to ramble in your posts.

you don't like additives and preservatives inferred or supplemented to what you write though it is indeed obvious to the naked eyes (though you've never been able to support what you write with truthful documentation) outside of your hysterical corporate media, yet at the same time feel so free to attribute the additives and preservatives of your choosing to others?
I don't hate Usama and have no reason to, I do pray for mercy upon him and I have made prayers as such since his death, not only is it human, it is also the right thing to do, for surely I hope upon my death and regardless of how heinous my crimes intentional or not that someone would do the same for me!
There is you and the west to hate him and I think that is plenty, it need not transfer to us either.. We have different manners, interests, beliefs and agendas than yours!

all the best

 

[Dagless]

If he did and the quote was posted then Bin Laden supporters would simply come and say he never said it and that it is all part of the conspiracy. Makes it pointless to bring them up, much less provide links to them. But yes, he did admit his involvement in those attacks.

I don't really care if people accept the sources or not; I asked because I wanted to know. Please provide sources and/or links.

No, you just said that the only thing you knew about him was that he gave up his wealth to fight the West. It's not hard to read between the lines. Others on this forum are much more forthcoming with their reverence for this man.

Since when was stating a fact equivalent to support? It isn't disputed by anyone or himself that he left a luxurious life (some sources say he was worth up to $300 million) to live quite a hard life.

 

[titus]

Since when was stating a fact equivalent to support? It isn't disputed by anyone or himself that he left a luxurious life (some sources say he was worth up to $300 million) to live quite a hard life.

The poster in question is insulting and attacking anyone that says anything negative about the man (at least the non-Muslim members) while only stating such facts that attempt to put him in a good light. Implicit support is still support.

I don't really care if people accept the sources or not; I asked because I wanted to know. Please provide sources and/or links.

Transcript from Aljazeera

In the original Arabic

List of Bin Laden Videos and summary of their contents

 

[MustafaMc]

God forbid you dig deeper and use your brain you conspiracy theorist!

Sorry, but I can't help using my mind to try to understand when I have questions. The events of 9/11 happened very soon after I started practicing Islam and the association of Islam in the media with terrorism led me to study the details of this traumatic day on the internet. A few years ago I came across a website, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth ae911truth.org that I find to be very sound scientifically. This site raises serious questions that contradict the official story. Anyone who has watched a video of a known building destruction such as the Seattle Kingdome by explosive implosion will immediately recognize the video of WTC collapse as a planned implosion. The free-fall manner of WTC7 can only be explained by the instantaneous removal of the supporting steel columns. The documented presence of unexploded nanothermite in the ubiquitous WTC dust cannot in any way, shape or form be explained by commercial planes flying into the Twin Towers. Wikipedia explains nanothermite as:

Nano-thermite, also called "super-thermite",is the common name for a subset of metastable intermolecular composites (MICs) characterized by a highly exothermic reaction after ignition. Nano-thermites contain an oxidizer and a reducing agent, which are intimately mixed on the nanometer scale. MICs, including nano-thermitic materials, are a type of reactive materials investigated for military use, as well as in applications in propellants, explosives, and pyrotechnics. What separates MICs from traditional thermites is that the oxidizer and a reducing agent, normally iron oxide and aluminum are not a fine powder, but rather nanoparticles. This dramatically increases the reactivity relative to micrometre-sized powder thermite. As the mass transport mechanisms that slow down the burning rates of traditional thermites are not so important at these scales, the reactions become kinetically controlled and much faster.


Again, if Osama was responsible for 9/11, how did he implosively bring down WTC7 (not hit by a plane) and how did he get bits of unexploded nanothermite and the iron micro-spheroid residue from its explosion in the WTC dust?

 

[جوري]

Again, if Osama was responsible for 9/11, how did he implosively bring down WTC7 (not hit by a plane) and how did he get bits of unexploded nanothermite and the iron micro-spheroid residue from its explosion in the WTC dust?

With plastic knives and invincible passports.. glad they admit that cave dwellers are light years ahead of them in genius and out of this world technology!

 

[titus]

Sorry, but I can't help using my mind to try to understand when I have questions.

Sometimes Occams Razor is the best way to use your mind.

Some Nano-Thermite conspiracy theories debunked

Anyone who has watched a video of a known building destruction such as the Seattle Kingdome by explosive implosion will immediately recognize the video of WTC collapse as a planned implosion.

Actually, no. A building collapsing is going to look like that. And no, the WTC did not collapse at free fall speed. Plus, if you think about it, do you really think that it is plausible that the government could plant all of the tons of explosives without anyone in the building knowing about it, and then accurately fly the planes (in both buildings) right into the floors where the explosives are planted without damaging them so that they could (by remote control I assume) set off the explosions at a later time? Let's not even mention how many thousands of people would have to be involved in such a conspiracy to be able to pull it off, yet 10 years later not a single one has come out to say anything?

With plastic knives and invincible passports.. glad they admit that cave dwellers are light years ahead of them in genius and out of this world technology!

Yes, those cave dwellers are something to be proud of.

There is also the video of some of these cave dwellers, along with Bin Laden,

Link

So not only video evidence of the men involved in the hijackings but also the man who was just killed in Pakistan speaking with them.

But the convenient part of conspiracy theories is that you can just claim it was faked. Everything that goes against the conspiracy theories is faked, I have come to learn.

 

[Pygoscelis]

it isn't up to repuke cons and fundies to tell us

Hold on a moment. You are not a fundy? Maybe it is your hostile tone, but all this time I thought you were a fundy muslim. That isn't so?

 

[Pygoscelis]

I cannot believe you say these things when you know its YOUR people who killed millions of innocent people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki....in Afghanistan...in Iraq.

You are both wrong to broad brush. You and the other muslims on this board are not responsible for terrorism. The gentleman you are addressing is not responsible for Hiroshima.

 

[Pygoscelis]

Note that the Taliban asked for such proof before the US invasion and occupation of Afghanistan.

That is a good point and it really bothered me at the time that the US didn't hand any kind of proof over or make any kind of case and instead like cowboys just rode in. I rarely meet people here who oppose both Iraq (most do) and Afghanistan (very few do). I oppose both.

 

[Pygoscelis]

It isn't disputed by anyone or himself that he left a luxurious life (some sources say he was worth up to $300 million) to live quite a hard life.

Let's not romanticize too much. We all pictured the man hiding in a cave somewhere. He was found in a much more luxurious abode, practically urban. Yes, he gave up being super wealthy, but lets not stretch that too far.

 

[Pygoscelis]

The poster in question is insulting and attacking anyone that says anything negative about the man (at least the non-Muslim members) while only stating such facts that attempt to put him in a good light. Implicit support is still support.

Um, you've been here since 2009, yes? So why does the above surprise you? We could be talking about anything whatsoever and she'd be hostile and frothing at the mouth towards non-muslims.

 

[Darth Ultor]

Bin Laden can rot in Hell

 

[Abu Zainab]

You are both wrong to broad brush. You and the other muslims on this board are not responsible for terrorism. The gentleman you are addressing is not responsible for Hiroshima.

Yeah but he is blaming Muslims in general. And I clearly stated that we have nothing against peace loving people whatever their race or religion maybe (Jews included.) It's just a bunch of prower-hungry morons who want to rule the world. They can "buy" a few hypocrites from our side to make Islaam look bad and give them excuse to attack our people and our lands. But still we don't blame the American people. We know who the real culprits are.

And their logic that "so many people cannot keep a such a big secret" is flawed. They are dreaming. Anyone with a pea sized brain knows that if he were to come out with a single proof, he and his family will be in Gitmo the next day.