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Re: Next Week I will be meeting an local IMAM about converting to Islam what should I

Salaam/Peace

Next Week I will be meeting an local IMAM about converting to Islam


if u believe that Islam is the Truth , then don't wait for meeting with the Imam . U must utter the Shahada right now - there is no god but Allah and Muhammed is a slave and messenger of Allah.

Later u can do it publicly / officially .

May Allah always bless you.
 
Re: Next Week I will be meeting an local IMAM about converting to Islam what should I

As-salamua'laikum warahhmatullah. may Allah make this journey prosperous and easy you.
Remember, a lot of Muslims are not practicing Muslims therefore instead of studding Muslims please study Islam.
As it was said above, depending on the kind of imaan that you go to…. because some imams (may Allah forgive us and guide us all) put their culture before Islam therefore you may experience little difficulty however stay firm and ask Allah Subbhanahuwata’la for help.

Here is this website you can visit and I know the shaek (scholer, imam) very well hhamdulillah (thank Allah) and inshaAllah you can benefit from him
Im not allowed to put any link In this forum yet because Im a new user so I’ll try to avoid the format

Noora number one

com

or e-mail him at

amoait at gmail.com


Put all these letters/words and the number together and then write .com

Hope and pray this is helpful
 
Re: Next Week I will be meeting an local IMAM about converting to Islam what should I

Al-hamdulillah, I'm very happy for you.

Don't worry, I'm sure it'll go well, insha'Allah. Allah is with you, put your trust in Him.
 
Re: Next Week I will be meeting an local IMAM about converting to Islam what should I

it was funny how you were afraid to put .com with a space, then said it complete at the end anyways haha

Limited members can't post links :D.
 
Re: Can it be proven that the United States of America is aiding the State of Israel


here is a site with a wealth of information and statistics:
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html

“Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing the amounts provided to any other state. It has been the largest annual recipient of direct U.S. economic and military assistance since 1976 and the largest total recipient since World War ll. Total direct U.S. aid to Israel amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars. Israel receives about $3 billion in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one-fifth of America's entire foreign aid budget. In per capita terms, the United States gives each Israeli a direct subsidy worth about $500 per year. This largesse is especially striking when one realizes that Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita income roughly equal to South Korea or Spain.”

- John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt
"The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy"
* The source for US military aid to Israel during Fiscal Year 2011 is the Congressional Research Service’s “U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel,” written by Jeremy M. Sharp, Specialist in Middle Eastern Affairs, updated September 16, 2010. According to this report, the Obama Administration requested $3 billion in Foreign Military Financing (FMF) for Israel for the fiscal year 2011.

it seems clear that those who oppose the laws of Almighty God feel a need to ensure there is a strong atheist presence in the middle east:

Sir Campbell Bannerman, [Prime Minister of Britain (1905-08)]
“ There are people who control spacious territories teeming with manifest and hidden resources.
They dominate the intersections of world routes. Their lands were the cradles of human civilizations and religions.
These people have one faith, one language, one history and the same aspirations.
No natural barriers can isolate these people from one another
... if, per chance, this nation were to be unified into one state, it would then take the fate of the world into its hands and would separate Europe from the rest of the world.
Taking these considerations seriously,

a foreign body should be planted in the heart of this nation to prevent the convergence of its wings in such a way

that it could exhaust its powers in never-ending wars.

It could also serve as a springboard for the West to gain its coveted objects.” - 1902


Lord Zetland [March 24, 1940, British Secretary of State for the colonial India]
“[T]he call of Islam is one which transcends the bounds of country. It may have lost some force as a result of the abolition of Caliphate by Mustafa Kamal Pasha, but it still has a very considerable appeal as witness for example Jinnah’s insistence on our giving undertaking that Indian troops should never be employed against any Muslim state, and the solicitude which he has constantly expressed for the Arabs of Palestine.”

US Think Tanks
In December 2004,
A report by the National Intelligence Council (NIC)
state a possible scenario that by 2020 a “New Caliphate" would have been established.
This 123-page report titled "Mapping the Global Future" was aimed to prepare the next Bush administration for future challenges,
and was presented to US President, members of Congress, cabinet members and key officials involved in policymaking.
According to CSIS (Center for Strategic and International Studies), Washington based think tank,
this report was not a prediction, but a case exercise/study which involves observing the various events taking place in the world.
These events are then connected in such a way that there might be a possibility of forming of a Caliphate state.
Given that such a state may be established, then it is to be decided from today as to what needs to be done to prevent it, if it needs to be prevented.
Moreover there are two organizations which did such a study,

one is the CIA and the other is Shell Oil Company.


President Bush
“The militants believe that controlling one country will rally the Muslim masses, enabling them to overthrow all moderate governments in the region, and establish a radical Islamic empire that spans from Spain to Indonesia"
“The murderous ideology of the Islamic radicals is the great challenge of our new century. Yet, in many ways, this fight resembles the struggle against communism in the last century."


**** Cheney [Vice President, Speech in Sydney, Australia February 2007]

" ...And it is they, the terrorists, who have ambitions of empire. Their goal in the broader Middle East is to seize control of a country, so they have a base from which they can launch attacks against governments that refuse to meet their demands. Their ultimate aim -- and one they boldly proclaim -- is to establish a caliphate covering a region from Spain, across North Africa, through the Middle East and South Asia, all the way to Indonesia. And it wouldn't stop there.
...The war on terror is more than a contest of arms, and more than a test of will. It is a battle of ideas...."

.......(i wonder if he was talking about his own ambitions)

Israel

The State of Israel inherited its sodomy ("buggery") law from the British Mandate of Palestine but there is no record that it was ever enforced against homosexual acts that took place between consenting adults in private. In the late 1960s the Supreme Court of Israel ruled that these laws could not be enforced and they were formally repealed by the Official legislature in 1988. The age of consent for both heterosexuals and homosexuals is sixteen years of age.

08/06/09
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(Reuters) - Beset by questions about Jerusalem's future in talks with the Palestinians, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reached for the Bible on Wednesday to stake out the Jewish state's contested claim on the city.
Netanyahu told a parliamentary session commemorating Israel's capture of East Jerusalem from Jordan in the 1967 war that "Jerusalem" and its alternative Hebrew name "Zion" appear 850 times in the Old Testament, Judaism's core canon.


17There shall be no ***** of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel. 18Thou shalt not bring the hire of a *****, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Deuteronomy 23:17-18



think...........is this anything to do with returning to "the holy land" - or ensuring that the lives of others who respect it are made difficult, and ensuring that there is a strong Anti-religious presence there? just youtube: israel gay pride - and you'll have an idea. i won't embed any of that stuff and defile this site with it.

Over the last 20 years, the U.S. has been slowly phasing out economic aid to Israel and gradually replacing it with increased military aid. Beginning in 2007, the U.S. has increased military aid by $150 million each year. By FY2012, we will be sending Israel $3.09 billion a year (or an average of $8.5 million a day) and will continue to provide military aid at that level through 2018. U.S. tax dollars are subsidizing one of the most powerful foreign militaries. According to the CRS report, “[current U.S. military aid] grants to Israel represent 18.2% of the overall Israeli defense budget.”
Contrary to ordinary U.S. policy, Israel has been and continues to be allowed to use approximately 25% of this military aid to purchase equipment from Israeli manufacturers. According to CRS, “no other recipient of U.S. military assistance has been granted this benefit.” Thanks in part to this indirect U.S. subsidy, Israel’s arms industry has become one of the strongest in the world. “Between 2001 an 2008, it was the 7th largest arms supplier to the world with sales worth a total of 9.9 billion.”
U.S. Military Aid and Israel


Jewish Voice for Peace Statement on Peace, U.S. Military Aid and Israel, 2004


Why we urge the U.S. government to suspend military aid to Israel until it ends its 37-year occupation of the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and East Jerusalem.

U.S. military aid to Israel has a dramatic effect on Israel's policies towards the Palestinians. It has increasingly been used not to pay for defense but to finance the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands. It keeps Israel from facing the difficult but necessary challenges of building a more democratic society, and encourages solving deep-rooted problems by military rather than peaceful and more effective means.
The U.S. funding that pays for the guns and ammunition, F-16 bombers, and Apache helicopters that are used to carry out Israel's occupation of Palestinian land and people serves neither Israelis, Palestinians, nor Americans.
In short, Israel cannot build a society based on the principles of democracy, human rights, and compliance with international law while brutally occupying another people and their land. The United States is currently paying for that occupation with its annual aid. That's why Jewish Voice for Peace urges the U.S. government to suspend military aid to Israel until Israel ends its 37-year occupation of the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and East Jerusalem.

Top Five Things You Should Know About U.S. Military Aid to Israel

1. Harm to Palestinian civilians A large part of U.S. military aid to Israel goes to purchase tanks, helicopter gunships, machine guns, and bullets that are used against Palestinian civilians. Our tax dollars have been used to destroy homes; uproot trees and crops; seize land from its lawful owners; close all access to food, medicine, and the outside world for small towns in the West Bank and Gaza; staff checkpoints that cut off ambulances and other civilian traffic; and carry out assassinations that kill children in addition to summarily executing political leaders. When Palestinian doctors remove bullets from the bodies of Palestinian children, the bullets are typically stamped ?Made in the U.S.A.?
Israel has used its U.S.-financed arsenal against unarmed Palestinian civilians, including children. Amnesty International reports that in 2002 alone, ?At least 1,000 Palestinians were killed by the Israeli army, most of them unlawfully. They included some 150 children and at least 35 individuals killed in targeted assassinations. Certain abuses committed by the Israeli army constituted war crimes.?[including] unlawful killings, obstruction of medical assistance and targeting of medical personnel, extensive and wanton destruction of property, torture and cruel and inhuman treatment, unlawful confinement and the use of "`human shields."?
?The IDF continued to demolish houses and destroy agricultural land and industrial installations throughout the Gaza Strip?.The IDF routinely used F-16 fighter jets, helicopter gunships, and tanks to bomb and shell Palestinian residential areas in response to gunfire or mortar attacks by Palestinians or in reprisal for suicide bombings and other attacks??
Go to Amnesty International for more reports on the Occupied Territories and Israel.
2. Harm to Israelis In addition to the devastation it visits on Palestinians, the occupation threatens the democratic values Israel seeks to uphold. Massive military aid promotes militarism, which has led to a reliance on military, rather than diplomatic means to work for a solution to this ongoing conflict. More and more Israelis question the moral decay that accompanies the criminal actions of the military and the dehumanization of the Palestinian people. A peace rally at the height of Israel?s reoccupation of the main towns of the West Bank in April 2002 drew 15,000 protestors in Tel Aviv. Currently nearly 1,200 Israeli army reservists refuse to serve in the Occupied Territories because the occupation corrupts Israeli society and endangers, rather than enhances, the security of Israelis. Israeli activists support the suspension of U.S. military aid to Israel; in the words of feminist activist Rela Mazali, ?[T]he U.S. foots most of the bills run up by this siege and makes some of the most lethal weapons used to maintain it. We hope you will tell your government to stop arming the conflict.?
3. Harm to the U.S. and its citizens Israel is required to use 75% of its military aid from the U.S. to buy arms and equipment such as Caterpillar bulldozers made in the U.S. It funnels this money to more than 1,000 U.S. arms suppliers, which in turn lobby for U.S. policies that benefit them at the expense of peace in the Middle East. As a result, the diversion of our tax dollars not only reduces funding for education and social programs but militarizes our public policy overall. U.S. military aid to Israel sets the U.S. in opposition to many Arab and European nations who recognize the horrors of the occupation. This makes U.S. citizens less safe because we are more hated. And the massive flow of arms into Israel is made even more dangerous by arms sales of lesser quality to other Middle Eastern countries such as Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. While all this business fills the coffers of arms merchants, it makes the Middle East ever more unstable. Furthermore, when our government arms proponents of massive human rights abuses, we become complicit in their crimes and hated by their victims. U.S. support of Israel?s occupation of Palestinian lands and its abuse of human rights undermines any moral authority to criticize human rights abuses in other countries. And it shreds the U.S. of any credibility in acting to promote peace in the region. 4. Violations of U.S. and international law U.S. law prohibits the president from furnishing military aid to any country ?which engages in a consistent pattern of gross violations of internationally recognized human rights.? 22 U.S.C. ? 2304(a). The U.S. Department of State reported in March 2003 that, ?Israel's overall human rights record in the occupied territories remained poor and worsened in several areas as it continued to commit serious human rights abuses?.Israeli security units used excessive force during Palestinian demonstrations, while on patrol, pursuing suspects, and enforcing checkpoints and curfews, which resulted in many deaths.? Targeting civilians, as Israel has done, is a war crime under the Fourth Geneva Convention. The fact that Palestinian groups have done the same makes it no less criminal. For more information on these human rights violations visit www.btselem.org, and web.amnesty.org/report2003/2md-index-eng.
5. Aid is excessive and disproportionate More U.S. aid goes to Israel than any other country, even though Israel?s per capita income is as high as many European countries. In fiscal year 2003 Israel received a foreign military financing grant of $3.1 billion and a $600 million grant for economic security in addition to $11 billion in commercial loan guarantees. This total aid package of nearly $15 billion makes Israel by far the largest single recipient of U.S. aid. U.S. aid is a function of politics. According to a Time/CNN poll, released April 12, 2002, 60% of Americans favor cutting aid to Israel if Israel does not immediately withdraw its troops from Palestinian areas. Further, U.S. aid to other countries is often tied to various conditions, depending on what the U.S. wants the aid recipient to do. We are asking that aid to Israel be treated in the same manner.
Pouring arms into an area of the world already plagued by violence can only increase death and destruction and render the U.S. a questionable broker for peace at best. In these hard economic days, that money can be put to use in the U.S. or it could be used to build a stable Palestinian society, out of the devastation that exists there now. The Israeli economy has been in a downward spiral for years, and foreign investment has long been directly related to the level of violence in the region. Using military aid as a lever to end the occupation will be a boon to the security and hopes for the future for both Israelis and Palestinians.

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Re: I know humans don't all look the same but could race just be a myth people 1000 y

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A journey is the activity that involves moving from point A to point B. So in real life, you actually move from point A to point B. For example, at point A you are five years old and as you grow older, you move on to point B where you are six years old. In this example, moving from point A to point B is not figurative at all, because you literally, meaning really actually, move from the point where you are five years old to the point where you are six years old. There is nothing imaginary or figurative about this. Life is, literally, a journey. See what I mean?

Same with the Holy Quran. For a start, the Holy Quran does not have to be scientifically validated to be true. The Holy Quran is the truth. Just because you do not see the truth in the Holy Quran does not mean that it is not true. For you, and me, too, for that matter, to try to comprehend the full meaning of the Holy Quran with our limited resources is, to use a very rough analogy, rather like a lowly worm trying to comprehend, say, why there is a full moon every 28 days. See what I mean?

I am reminded of what Isaac Asimov wrote in the preface of his book "The Human Brain". What he said, more or less, was that while it is possible for the brain of man to study the brain of a frog, it is an impossibility for a man to use his own brain to study the brain of a man itself. For the brain of a man to try to comprehend how Allah works is even more more far-fetched, multiply that by a gadzillion times. See what I mean?

So ageing is a journey your explanation sounds like sophistry to me.
And you say the Quran is incomprehendable even though it is the message of Allah to the people. Hmmm
The Noble Quran is easy to understand otherwise it would be a worthless message.
Also the human brain is constantly being studied and new breakthroughs are happening in the field of disease.
 
Re: I know humans don't all look the same but could race just be a myth people 1000 y

I learned about this in my Anthropology class.. And I think race is a myth. I understand their are different languages, etc. But we all are the same! We all have hearts, we all have brain, and we all have the same skeletal figure... But I guess it is a good organization. It hard for me to explain, but I believe the anthropologist!

This "one race" belief so popular today is one of the most bizarre phenomenons I've ever encountered. On ONE hand, people seem to be more than happy to recognise different races of fish or different races of bird but GOD FORBID anyone mention that there is more than one race of HUMAN! I write people off who claim that there is only "one race". Race is NOT a myth, and I can't help that you have been mindwashed in your "anthropology class" by a new mentality inspired by political correctness and Marxism. These modern day anthropologists are complete propagandist scoundrels and liars. You claim we all have hearts, brains and "same" skeletal figure. But if you are going to use this argument than I guess we need to also include cats and dogs with this "single human race" too, given that cats and dogs have brains, hearts and the same skeletal figure. Those rationalizing anthropologists are just trying to twist things about by claiming that "seeing all humans stand upright on two legs they therefore must be just one species". That is just utterly LUDICROUS RUBBISH! I mean if THAT argument is to be used then we may as well include ALL living animals that stand upright on two legs. We would have to include gorillas, chimpanzees, etc etc as ALSO included in this imaginary "one human race"! But the real fact is that hominids DON'T have the same skeletal figure! Their skeletal dimensions and sizes vary INCREDIBLY! Don't try and tell me that Germanic species have the same skeletal look as pygmies! They DON'T! Their difference in look is REMARKABLE. Their sizes and dimensions have virtually NO similarites at ALL.
 
Re: I know humans don't all look the same but could race just be a myth people 1000 y

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Just want to confirm one point before continuing with this discussion. This question is directed to Karl. Of course, this question can also be posed in a PM but since Karl has expressed himself openly in this thread, I think it is appropriate to ask Karl to post his answer here. My question is:

To Karl,

Do you or do you not believe that all human beings are descended from Adam and Eve?

A very simple question. Looking forward to a very simple answer.
 
I have read that photo taking and filming and cameras is not allowed in Islam but are

I have read that photo taking and filming and cameras is not allowed in Islam but are there exceptions to this can photos be taken for educational reasons ?
 
Re: I know humans don't all look the same but could race just be a myth people 1000 y

:sl:

Just want to confirm one point before continuing with this discussion. This question is directed to Karl. Of course, this question can also be posed in a PM but since Karl has expressed himself openly in this thread, I think it is appropriate to ask Karl to post his answer here. My question is:

To Karl,

Do you or do you not believe that all human beings are descended from Adam and Eve?

A very simple question. Looking forward to a very simple answer.

No.
You must search back to the source of the story. The ancient pagans used to believe that everything was made of the four elements air, fire, water, and earth. People being made of the earth (Adam). The Gods fashioned people from earth. Eve was introduced a long time later in the story.
Think about it, if God is almighty and creator of the universe why would He only make two people when He makes multitudes of everything else?
 
Re: I know humans don't all look the same but could race just be a myth people 1000 y

No.
You must search back to the source of the story. The ancient pagans used to believe that everything was made of the four elements air, fire, water, and earth. People being made of the earth (Adam). The Gods fashioned people from earth. Eve was introduced a long time later in the story.
Think about it, if God is almighty and creator of the universe why would He only make two people when He makes multitudes of everything else?

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Good. Now that we have settled that question conclusively, we can continue our discussion without any further doubts about where you stand with regards to the Holy Quran.

The natural question that follows upon your question is:

Why can't Allah create only Adam and Eve as the forefather (and foremother) of all human beings?

Do you know what are the Six Articles of Faith? Check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iman_(concept)#The_6_Articles_of_Faith
 
Re: I have read that photo taking and filming and cameras is not allowed in Islam but

There's a difference of opinion on it I think, some scholars say it's forbidden to take pictures of people or any living thing and others say it's ok. So you will find people telling you two different rulings depending on which scholar they follow.
 
Re: I know humans don't all look the same but could race just be a myth people 1000 y

:sl:

Good. Now that we have settled that question conclusively, we can continue our discussion without any further doubts about where you stand with regards to the Holy Quran.

The natural question that follows upon your question is:

Why can't Allah create only Adam and Eve as the forefather (and foremother) of all human beings?

Do you know what are the Six Articles of Faith? Check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iman_(concept)#The_6_Articles_of_Faith

Answer to first question. The gene pool would be far too small to populate the entire planet in a totally incestuous way. Also if they hypothetically could, everyone would look very similar as if like one huge family. People would look roughly all the same, but the plain fact is they don't.
Answer to next question. I know the six articles of faith, what has that got to do with Adam and Eve.
BTW I wouldn't trust Wikipedia it is not an official Islamic source.
 
Re: I know humans don't all look the same but could race just be a myth people 1000 y

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Now we are getting somewhere. What do you think then is/are the first ancestor/ancestors of all the human beings on this planet now? A link to your source of reference would be useful.

One of the Articles of Faith states that a Muslim believes in the holy books revealed to the prophets of Allah. One of these holy books is the Holy Quran. One of the things stated in the Holy Quran is the creation of Adam. That is the connection between the Six Articles of Faith and Adam. If the connection is still not clear to you, please say so and I will try to explain again.

When I read the Wikipedia entry about the Six Articles of Faith, I saw that there were references to the relevant verses in the Holy Quran. I consider the Holy Quran to be an official Islamic source. How about you? Do you or do you not consider the Holy Quran to be an official Islamic source?
 
Re: I have read that photo taking and filming and cameras is not allowed in Islam but

I have seen on tv Muslims holding photos of Bin Laden and Bin Laden did allow himself to be filmed by cameras and I have heard Muslims say they have seen photos of the people killed in Iraq therefor I want to know if photos can be used for educational reasons does the Quran and or the Hadith say anything about this thank you ?

Exclusive Osama (Usama) bin Laden "US threats" - YouTube

Exclusive Osama (Usama) bin Laden "US threats"

The first ever TV interview with Osama (Usama) bin Laden. Conducted in 1997 by Peter Bergen and Peter Arnett. The history and origins of his hatred for the US.
Photographer: Peter Jouvenal​
 
Re: I know humans don't all look the same but could race just be a myth people 1000 y

:sl:

Now we are getting somewhere. What do you think then is/are the first ancestor/ancestors of all the human beings on this planet now? A link to your source of reference would be useful.

One of the Articles of Faith states that a Muslim believes in the holy books revealed to the prophets of Allah. One of these holy books is the Holy Quran. One of the things stated in the Holy Quran is the creation of Adam. That is the connection between the Six Articles of Faith and Adam. If the connection is still not clear to you, please say so and I will try to explain again.

When I read the Wikipedia entry about the Six Articles of Faith, I saw that there were references to the relevant verses in the Holy Quran. I consider the Holy Quran to be an official Islamic source. How about you? Do you or do you not consider the Holy Quran to be an official Islamic source?

Sorry I don't know who the first ancestors were or when or where. No one knows the answer to that one. They can believe in all sorts of things but they cannot know for sure. This planet is constantly destroying and remaking it's surface and has been bombarded by asteroids from time to time so you can only get evidence and knowledge scientifically from a relitively short time ago.
BTW it's called the Noble Quran, your getting mixed up with the Holy Bible.
I said before that the Quran has metaphors and parables. And so has the Bible, Torah and old pagan sources all going back to year dot. And as I said I do not take the Adam and Eve story literally. Yes the Noble Quran is the (official) book of the Muslims.
 
Re: I have read that photo taking and filming and cameras is not allowed in Islam but

How comes Islam/Muslims allows photos drawings or art of non living things but photos of living beings with a soul like Humans is not allowed what is the difference both are the creation of God/Allah right ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniconism_in_Islam
 
Re: I have read that photo taking and filming and cameras is not allowed in Islam but

Brother as I mentioned the scholars of Islam differed over this issue, you see many sheikhs in pictures, some of them even have a picture of themselves as their profile picture on FB, that's because they follow the opinion that photographs aren't haraam.
 

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