US military course taught officers 'Islam is the enemy'

[Eric H]

Greetings and peace be with you UnitedStates#1; I have to say your responses trouble me

Let's not exaggerate, the figures are more like 100,000+. If that's extermination then it looks like we are doing a very hasty job! mg:

Even if there are only a hundred thousand deaths, you seem to dismiss them as being meaningless. we are all created by the same God, and you are talking about killing a part of God's creation.

Oh and I am surprised with the amount of people here claiming 9/11 to be fake. You are no different to the Neo Nazis claiming the mass murders in WW2 to be fake.

Although you don't call the death of the Iraqi people as being fake, you seem to justify these deaths because the USA is always right, and that seems arrogant.

But if it helps taking your frustration on the USA then well I understand

The frustration is not against the USA, it is against injustice

In the spirit of praying for justice for all people

Eric

 

[Muhammad]

pygo, i appreciate the fact that she told u she was Muslim, but without veering too much off topic i'd like to clarify a misconception,
a Muslim is one who Submits To God, that is the meaning of the word Muslim,
and i'm sure you know that stripping is Forbidden in Islam and is no small transgression.
So as long as she knowingly strips, and makes no attempt to submit to God, she is NOT a Muslim,
she is either a Munafiq or a Kafir. stripping is not an addiction which one has to fight.

We must be careful about declaring people to be kaafir in this way. without knowing any details about a person. Of course we denounce the action but we cannot immediately pass a judgement on the person concerned, especially as lay people and when we hardly know the situation. May Allaah (swt) forgive us for any wrong we may utter and guide this person and those like her to abandon their sins, Aameen.

 

[Muhammad]

Greetings,

Pretty much this. The average Muslim in USA won't have their hands cut off, the choice to choose their own destiny and be integrated into a society where everyone understands each other.

Contrary to what seems to be popular belief and purported by western media, Shariah Law is not about indiscriminately chopping people's hands off or executing them. Its penal system is based upon defined criteria and principles. It might also surprise some people to know that it governs other aspects of society, including the establishment of a proper welfare system and a finance system that is not based upon interest and debt. There is also protection for all citizens regardless of their belief and people are actually trialled with justice, not sent to highest security prisons based upon suspicion.

 

[UnitedStates#1]

the establishment of a proper welfare system and a finance system that is not based upon interest and debt.

Might be off topic but I am interested to know about the welfare and finance system Islam promotes, just curious here.

 

[MustafaMc]

USA#1, the primary reason that Islam is 'Public Enemy #1' in the USA is essentially derived from the events of 9/11. Why do you not answer my questions that call into question the very essence of this premise?

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

I'm glad that they've suspended the programme.

No they haven't, ofcourse not, don't believe what the media says, this course is still going on today.
The hate against us is increasing, and be prepared fro more false flags which they blame on us muslims. A false flag with such magnitude that the whole west will scream for war( false flags in which thousands will die like chemical or nuclear attacks or attacks widepsread over europe and USa and ''al-qaida'' will be blamed)

 

[Abz2000]

Might be off topic but I am interested to know about the welfare and finance system Islam promotes, just curious here.

Night Patrols of Caliph 'Umar ibn Al Khattab

During one of his regular night patrols Umar Bin khattab passed by a house and heard a child crying for a long time. So he went to the mother and told her

Umar Bin Khattab: Fear Allah and take care of your child

and then he leaves. Then the child is carrying on crying and crying and crying. Towards the end of the night he goes to her and says

Umar Bin Khattab: What kind of mother are you. You are an evil mother. Your child has been crying since the beginning of the night.

Mother: I am trying to wean him but he doesn’t want to eat the food.
(This child still wants to breastfeed and his mother is trying to convince him to eat, rather than breastfeed).

Umar Bin Khattab: Why are you trying to wean him? How old is he?

Mother: a few months

Umar bin Khattab: Why are you trying to wean him then
(because the complete period of breastfeed is two years).

Mother: Because Umar bin Khattab doesn’t start paying them until they are weaned.”
(she doesn’t know that its Umar Bin Khattab (The Caliph) who himself is speaking to her)

Umar bin khattab: woe to you Oh son of Khattab, what have you done?

He was so taken back by what happened that during Fajr Prayer people could not recognize his Recitation because of his crying.
After Fajr prayer he immediately issues a Government order to all the mothers around the Muslim world saying
“Do not wean your children too early because from now on you will receive a handout from the day your child is born”.


“How many Children have I killed?”. He said to himself “How many children have been killed because of you”. What is Umar bin Khattab saying? Who did he kill? Which children did he kill? This is a favor that he is doing to the people; he is giving them these handouts. He considers that he has harmed the Muslim infants because their mothers are trying to wean them sooner to get the handouts.

Can you think about such a Government? No citizen pays any taxes and you still receive handouts from the Government. Now Governments are ripping their people off. Taking 30% or more in taxes and they give you nothing. Supposedly they take this money to offer you services. Where does all of that money go?

In the Islamic Khalifah there was no such thing called “Taxes”. No taxes at all. They didn’t know the concept of taxes. This concept of Taxes existed among the Roman and the Persian rulers who used to tax the people of all the lands which they controlled, the people of the lands they conquered and the citizens of rome and persia. but in the Islamic Caliphate there were no taxes. All what would be taken from you is Zakat if you are capable of giving it and Customs for foreign businessman. Instead the Government gives you money. The moment your child is born you will start receiving those handouts.​

 

[onetwo]

What a massive over reaction, we don't even know the context these quotes were in. It sounds like these were totally hypothetical situations since they start off with "If the Geneva conventions didn't apply", but hey anything in the media negative about the west = totally true whereas anything negative about islam = totally false.

 

[GuestFellow]

It all goes back to 9/11, doesn't it? What proof is there that Muslims caused 3,000 American deaths with the explosive collapse of 3 NYC skyscrappers? How did they get a super high technology explosive, nanothermite, and its signature residue, iron-rich microspherules, to show up in the WTC dust in enough quantity to suggest tons of nanothermite were used to bring the Twin Towers down? How did they implosively bring down WTC7, a 47-story building not hit by a plane?

Salaam,

I wonder what will happen if it it proven that Muslims were not behind the attacks...

Might be off topic but I am interested to know about the welfare and finance system Islam promotes, just curious here.

You can create another topic about other aspects of the Sharia.

 

[Muhammad]

Greetings,

Might be off topic but I am interested to know about the welfare and finance system Islam promotes, just curious here.

Thanks for your question. Islam promotes social welfare and fair distribution of wealth. One of the key ways that this occurs is through Zakah, which is one of the five pillars of Islam. For most purposes this involves the payment each year of 2.5% of one's capital, provided that this capital reaches a certain minimum amount that which is not consumed by its owner. A generous person can pay more than this amount, though it is treated and rewarded as voluntary charity (Sadaqah). This amount of money is provided to bridge the gap between the rich and the poor, and can be used in many useful projects for the welfare of the community.

In addition to this, there is a great emphasis in Islam on caring for those in need in the community, such as kindness to orphans, freeing slaves, attending to the needs of widows, being hospitable to the wayfarers, visiting the sick, good treatment of neighbours, relatives, spouses and parents. Many verses in the Qur'an teach these morals:

What will explain to you what the steep path is? It is to free a slave, to feed at a time of hunger, an orphaned relative or a poor person in distress, and to be one of those who believe and urge one another to steadfastness and compassion. [Qur'an 90:12-20]

Have you seen him who denies the Recompense? That is he who repulses the orphan (harshly), And urges not the feeding of AlMiskin (the poor)... [Qur'an 107:1-3]

And give to the kindred his due and to the Miskin (poor) and to the wayfarer. But spend not wastefully (your wealth) in the manner of a spendthrift .Verily, spendthrifts are brothers of the Shayatin (devils), and the Shaitan (Devil - Satan) is ever ungrateful to his Lord. [Qur'an 17:26-27]

Worship Allah and join none with Him in worship, and do good to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, Al-Masakin (the poor), the neighbour who is near of kin, the neighbour who is a stranger, the companion by your side, the wayfarer (you meet), and those (slaves) whom your right hands possess. Verily, Allah does not like such as are proud and boastful; Those who are miserly and enjoin miserliness on other men and hide what Allah has bestowed upon them of His Bounties. And We have prepared for the disbelievers a disgraceful torment. [Qur'an 17:36-37]


The distribution of wealth and resources constitutes the macro-economy of the Islamic economic model; the Qur’an repeatedly mentions distribution of resources and charity:

And those in whose wealth there is a known right, For the beggar who asks, and for the unlucky who has lost his property and wealth, (and his means of living has been straitened); [Qur'an 70:24-25]

And they give food, inspite of their love for it (or for the love of Him), to Miskin (poor), the orphan, and the captive, (Saying): "We feed you seeking Allah's Countenance only. We wish for no reward, nor thanks from you. [Qur'an 76:8-9]

The famous letter from a Rabbi found in Phillip Mansel’s book ‘Constantinople’, reflects the Qur’anic reality of distributing resources, "Here in the land of the Turks we have nothing to complain of. We possess great fortunes; much gold and silver are in our hands. We are not oppressed with heavy taxes and our commerce is free and unhindered. Rich are the fruits of the earth. Everything is cheap and every one of us lives in peace and freedom..."
Philip Mansel. 1995. Constantinople: City of the World's desire, 1453-1924. Penguin Books, p. 15

​

Justice, kindness, tolerance and the distribution of resources are just some of the cohesive values that are propagated in the Islamic social model. It can be concluded that under this model people lived under a cohesive society full of justice and kindness, the type of society that is needed today.


Regarding the finance system, here is an article which may shed some light on that: http://www.islam21c.com/finance/212-the-credit-crunch-an-islamic-perspective


And Allaah (swt) knows best in all matters.

 

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam/ Peace

anything in the media negative about the west = totally true whereas anything negative about islam = totally false.

media is normally anti Islam & Muslim . When Islam is to blame for any alleged suspect , no specific religion or holy book is responsible for the proven criminal.

I have yet to see condemn of Bible or Jesus pbuh in media for what Hitler did . No media says Geeta is responsible for the destroying of century old Babri mosque or killing of pregnant Muslim women , cut of their stomacsh and throw the unborn babies in fire in Gujrat , India.

anyway , is there any protest from US that the news is false ?

 

[nasima]

This type of news is given on the media to inform the people, to terrorize the Muslims and to spread mischief against Islam!! At the same time the terrorists clear themselves by saying that they stopped that course. In fact if they were true in their saying then they would have shut the mouth of terrorist Dooly and wouldn’t bring the statement on the media. So they are all terrorists and are one and the same with Dooly!! Surely the media is in the hands of the infidels and they frequently spread false news about Islam, but truly, sun cannot be covered by one’s hands and the truth is clear to the world!

What is the truth?

In the present era the Islamic faith and practices are extremely limited. The real power is in the hands of the western infidels! Surely Allah has given them power to test them and to establish proof against them for the Day of Judgment as Allah is the Greatest of Judges. The infidel power holders have already confirmed their cruelty and wickedness and have filled up the land of Allah with bloodshed. There is no Muslim power to stop the killer infidels from massacres of innocent children, men, and women. Allah prohibited the killing of innocent people and Allah said that the killing of one person is like the killing of whole world and the saving of one person is like the saving of whole world! If there was a true Muslim Power then she would have surely struggled to save the innocents from the infidels! The infidel power-holders know this fact very well but they are very unfortunate because their hate and enmity for Islam is not ending, their hate and jealousy for Islam has no limits. So by such news they are threatening the Muslims that they intend to attack the very central worshipping places that is the Holy Kaaba Sharifa in Mecca and the Masjid An-Nabawi (Prophet’s Masjid) in Medina, Saudi Arabia. While threatening the Muslims about the use of atomic bomb on Makka and Madina, the terrorist blood shedders forget about their own fate! Look back at the history, do you see any pharaoh alive? One death comes to the innocent and also one death comes to the cruel killer and all will die at their ordained time!!

The infidels should know that a prophesy of the Final Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم told us that an army will proceed to attach the Kaaba Sharifa in Mecca and the army will be sunk alive in the earth!!

So you must know that Islam is a true religion of Allah for guidance of mankind and these great places are blessed by Allah and any attack on them is like fight against Allah, so the attackers will get a response from Allah in the form of a horrible Wrath.

Also we inform you o mankind , that Allah has given you and us time and freedom of action to test us but the freedom and time is not absolute. Allah has always given time to the nations and pharaohs but whenever the mischief of the infidels crossed bounds, Allah caught them. You can see the end of Pharoah who had been advised by Prophet Musa (Moses) عليهم السلام , and the nation of Prophet Nuh عليهم السلام (Noah) which was drowned in a tremendous flood.

If you don’t believe then see the history. Just about two months before the birth of the Final Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم a Christian king Abraha, due to his jealousy for Islam, had attacked the Kaaba Sharifa with a huge army with elephants. He observed clearly that his elephants refused to attack the Kaaba Sharifa and turned back. This was an indication that animals know their Creator and Lord and are thankful and obedient to their Lord. They respect the House of Allah but the infidel man has fallen down so low that he is now worse than animal. So was Abraha, the Christian King. So then Allah the All-Mighty sent on Abraha’s army small birds with stones in their claws and beaks. The stones were such that when a stone hit the enemy, it used to enter his skin and deep tissues and the tissues and organs would start melting and falling down on the earth. So the whole army along with the jealous cruel Christian king Abraha became like eaten hay.

So take heed o mankind and stop challenging God. The Truth is that God is one, Single, and Unique. There is none like Unto Him. God Allah is the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth and whatever is in and between them.

God Allah is the Absolute Owner of Power. He is the Sustainer and Provider and is extremely kind but is very Just. He is the Judge of Judges. And Allah is very quick in Retribution. Allah has no relative, no partner, no associate. He has not begetted and is not begotten. Allah likes justice and peace and does not like Corruption and mischief in the land.

The infidel authorities should know that Allah has given them power temporarily and will insha-Allah (God-willing) make them powerless in no time!

The Final Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم has told us about some signs that will appear one after the other, which will be:

1. Sinking in the earth
2. Changing of faces to those of apes and monkeys.
3. Stony wrath (wrath of stones) which will break the skulls of homosexuals and gays.
4. And many other signs will appear one after the other and no one will be able to control them.

So remain witnesses that we informed you about:

1. Islam is a true and the only true religion of Allah for all mankind to follow – stop messing with it.
2. The Wrath of Allah is ordained to come upon the mischievous transgressors.
3. After the transgressors are killed by wrath, it will not be the end – rather they will be transferred from here to the Hereafter for ever-lasting punishment in Hell.

So take heed o mankind, be sincere to yourselves and save yourself from the anger of All-Mighty Allah here and in the Hereafter.

This type of news is given on the media to inform the people, to terrorize the Muslims and to spread mischief against Islam!! At the same time the terrorists clear themselves by saying that they stopped that course. In fact if they were true in their saying then they would have shut the mouth of terrorist Dooly and wouldn’t bring the statement on the media. So they are all terrorists and are one and the same with Dooly!! Surely the media is in the hands of the infidels and they frequently spread false news about Islam, but truly, sun cannot be covered by one’s hands and the truth is clear to the world!

What is the truth?

In the present era the Islamic faith and practices are extremely limited. The real power is in the hands of the western infidels! Surely Allah has given them power to test them and to establish proof against them for the Day of Judgment as Allah is the Greatest of Judges. The infidel power holders have already confirmed their cruelty and wickedness and have filled up the land of Allah with bloodshed. There is no Muslim power to stop the killer infidels from massacres of innocent children, men, and women. Allah prohibited the killing of innocent people and Allah said that the killing of one person is like the killing of whole world and the saving of one person is like the saving of whole world! If there was a true Muslim Power then she would have surely struggled to save the innocents from the infidels! The infidel power-holders know this fact very well but they are very unfortunate because their hate and enmity for Islam is not ending, their hate and jealousy for Islam has no limits. So by such news they are threatening the Muslims that they intend to attack the very central worshipping places that is the Holy Kaaba Sharifa in Mecca and the Masjid An-Nabawi (Prophet’s Masjid) in Medina, Saudi Arabia. While threatening the Muslims about the use of atomic bomb on Makka and Madina, the terrorist blood shedders forget about their own fate! Look back at the history, do you see any pharaoh alive? One death comes to the innocent and also one death comes to the cruel killer and all will die at their ordained time!!

The infidels should know that a prophesy of the Final Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم told us that an army will proceed to attach the Kaaba Sharifa in Mecca and the army will be sunk alive in the earth!!

So you must know that Islam is a true religion of Allah for guidance of mankind and these great places are blessed by Allah and any attack on them is like fight against Allah, so the attackers will get a response from Allah in the form of a horrible Wrath.

Also we inform you o mankind , that Allah has given you and us time and freedom of action to test us but the freedom and time is not absolute. Allah has always given time to the nations and pharaohs but whenever the mischief of the infidels crossed bounds, Allah caught them. You can see the end of Pharoah who had been advised by Prophet Musa (Moses) عليهم السلام , and the nation of Prophet Nuh عليهم السلام (Noah) which was drowned in a tremendous flood.

If you don’t believe then see the history. Just about two months before the birth of the Final Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم a Christian king Abraha, due to his jealousy for Islam, had attacked the Kaaba Sharifa with a huge army with elephants. He observed clearly that his elephants refused to attack the Kaaba Sharifa and turned back. This was an indication that animals know their Creator and Lord and are thankful and obedient to their Lord. They respect the House of Allah but the infidel man has fallen down so low that he is now worse than animal. So was Abraha, the Christian King. So then Allah the All-Mighty sent on Abraha’s army small birds with stones in their claws and beaks. The stones were such that when a stone hit the enemy, it used to enter his skin and deep tissues and the tissues and organs would start melting and falling down on the earth. So the whole army along with the jealous cruel Christian king Abraha became like eaten hay.

So take heed o mankind and stop challenging God. The Truth is that God is one, Single, and Unique. There is none like Unto Him. God Allah is the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth and whatever is in and between them.

God Allah is the Absolute Owner of Power. He is the Sustainer and Provider and is extremely kind but is very Just. He is the Judge of Judges. And Allah is very quick in Retribution. Allah has no relative, no partner, no associate. He has not begetted and is not begotten. Allah likes justice and peace and does not like Corruption and mischief in the land.

The infidel authorities should know that Allah has given them power temporarily and will insha-Allah (God-willing) make them powerless in no time!

The Final Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم has told us about some signs that will appear one after the other, which will be:

1. Sinking in the earth
2. Changing of faces to those of apes and monkeys.
3. Stony wrath (wrath of stones) which will break the skulls of homosexuals and gays.
4. And many other signs will appear one after the other and no one will be able to control them.

So remain witnesses that we informed you about:

1. Islam is a true and the only true religion of Allah for all mankind to follow – stop messing with it.
2. The Wrath of Allah is ordained to come upon the mischievous transgressors.
3. After the transgressors are killed by wrath, it will not be the end – rather they will be transferred from here to the Hereafter for ever-lasting punishment in Hell.

So take heed o mankind, be sincere to yourselves and save yourself from the anger of All-Mighty Allah here and in the Hereafter.