O ummah, for how much longer?

[Scimitar]

I used to work in the media too, and what Aprender has said is the absolute truth.

Scimi

 

[Txyib]

salaam muslim brothers and sisters
i hope that i am not offending anyone but don't you think that this is a sign towards qiyamah? think about about it,allah mentions that near the end of the world muslims will fight muslims due to weak imaan and the non muslims will take over,is that not true!!? egypt,libya,syria and more are fighting , however some are good who are trying to defend the ummah and fighting for the right whereas some people would have died for the presedent in libya i think and used to worship him instead of allah as they think he is better! astaghfurullah, how can these people be so cold hearted????:raging:

My point is that maybe this is a sign towards day of qiyamah (muslims imaan is getting weaker , people dont know what is right and what is wrong, etc) and maybe imam mahdi may appear sooner or later,because nearly all the MINOR signs towards day of qiyamah have happened
wasalam

 

[Roasted Cashew]

But I suppose you won't listen to anything that I say either because I am a woman and you don't value my opinion

Sis, where did that come from?? Can u just share with me one line that I posted that led you to that conclusion. I am not sure why people on this board make broad assumptions on their own.

my revert story

SubhanAllah. I am glad Allah(SWT) guided you to the right path.

why you would bash them

Sister, I did not bash anyone. Their fight for their homeland is legitimate. All I said was that they should target the IDF's and spare the civilians. I am not sure why saying that stirs up so much emotion here on this board. Everyone here thinks as long as you are an Israeli, you deserve to die.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

Do you have any idea how populated Gaza is? Wherever the Mujahideen are, there will always be Men, women and children around! There's nowhere to hide as Gaza is like an open prison

Again, if these Mujahideen were lead by rational and able leaders this wouldn't have happened. This is basic warfare. You do not attack the enemy from a civilian location because it endangers the population if the enemy retaliates. Seems to me the Mujahideen are using the civilians as tools for their own propaganda. Not so noble after all.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

Indeed they're.. the condition of Muslims including after the so-called Arab springs goes back to Amero/Israeli interests in the region.

I said Israeli civilians. Not American/Israeli interests. There is a difference.

 

[Abz2000]

You do not attack the enemy from a civilian location because it endangers the population if the enemy retaliates.

oh, so u now agree that anywhere in the u.s is a legitimate target since they control drones from there?

 

[Roasted Cashew]

oh, so u now agree that anywhere in the u.s is a legitimate target since they control drones from there?

Absolutely NOT. The drones are not controlled from a location near to schools, hospitals or any civilian infrastructure. They are controlled from military bases. Anyway, you got this all wrong. I did not say that since Mujahideen target IDF from civilian locations, civilians are legitimate targets. It is just that there are chances more civilians will die as a result of "collateral damage". I just said that the Mujahideen need to change their strategies if they really want to inflict more harm to the enemy rather than be on the receiving end of it.

 

[جوري]

I said Israeli civilians. Not American/Israeli interests. There is a difference.

We've already discussed that the army is conscript of the people. Did that part not register? furthermore, they have absolutely no rights to that land, political or biblical, for even Abraham (PBUH) who was originally from Iraq with Yemeni ancestry i.e a middle easterner through and through which is more than any of those European Jews can claim still purchased a land in which to bury his wife Sarah from the people of Canaan. He didn't say oh people this land belongs to me. So where the heck do you get off calling them civilians? You're a hoot! They're all colonialists & should be fought or go back to the countries that housed them or live in Palestine under Islamic law like the Christians of the land do.
Do you read outside of the corporate news that has apparently so brainwashed you?

 

[Abz2000]

Absolutely NOT. The drones are not controlled from a location near to schools, hospitals or any civilian infrastructure. They are controlled from military bases. Anyway, you got this all wrong.

really? u seem to know where they're operated from and are even willing to go as far as vouching for them
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Drone Warfare In Yemen
By Stephen Lendman
4-29-12​

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[TD="align: left"]Predator drones sanitize killing on the cheap compared to manned aircraft and ground troops. Teams of remote warriors work far from, and at times, closer to battlefields.

Drone pilots operate computer keyboards and multiple monitors. Sensor staff work with them. They handle TV and infrared cameras, as well as other high-tech drone sensors. Faceless enemies nearby or half a world away are attacked. Virtual war kills like sport.

At day's end, home-based operators head there for dinner, relaxation, family time, then a good night sleep before another day guiding weapons with joysticks and monitors like computer games.

Dozens of drone command centers operate worldwide. Dozens more are planned. Pentagon and CIA personnel run them.
Some are bare bones. Climate-controlled trailers work fine. They operate effectively anywhere. They maintain constant radio contact with command centers.

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{Or do those in whose hearts is disease think that Allaah would never expose their [feelings of] hatred?
And if We willed, We could show them to you, and you would know them by their mark;
but you will surely know them by the tone of [their] speech. And Allaah knows your deeds.}
[Quran 47: 29-30]

They are the ones who ally themselves with disbelievers instead of believers. Are they seeking dignity with them?
All dignity belongs with GOD alone.
Quran 4:139

[FONT=me_quran]يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ جَاهِدِ الْكُفَّارَ وَالْمُنَافِقِينَ وَاغْلُظْ عَلَيْهِمْ ۚ وَمَأْوَاهُمْ جَهَنَّمُ ۖ وَبِئْسَ الْمَصِيرُ
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O Prophet (Muhammad SAW)! Strive hard against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be harsh against them,
their abode is Hell, - and worst indeed is that destination.
Quran 9:73
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[Aprender]

Sis, where did that come from?? Can u just share with me one line that I posted that led you to that conclusion. I am not sure why people on this board make broad assumptions on their own.

Unfortunately that entire thread was deleted or else I would have dug it back up again. We got into a debate about media bias and you made it seem as if I didn't know what I am talking about because you read the news despite my having degrees in media and having worked in the journalism business with people who warned about and spoke against this in reporting. It is part of the reason why I walked away from it. I remember a few years ago I was taking a class with a few people from the UAE and a journalist from the NY Times wrote an article about some workers from India living in slums in a neighborhood. One of the members of my group lived around the corner from that exact neighborhood that the journalist described. He wanted to try and help them but when he went over there he saw nothing. There was no one and nothing like what was described in the story.

The story made it seem like the UAE was making all these guest workers live in harsh conditions in some type of land field with no water and food yet the journalist got zero audio, no photos to go with the story. Maybe the reporter got the address wrong, but it's obvious that the editors didn't bother checking to see if the story was true. They just went with it.

All I said was that they should target the IDF's and spare the civilians. I am not sure why saying that stirs up so much emotion here on this board. Everyone here thinks as long as you are an Israeli, you deserve to die.

Brother, if that was all you're saying then surely other members on here wouldn't be making so many points about the things you say here on the forum. You like to say they should fight with intellect but when they tried to do that to get Palestine recognized as a state at the UN they got denied. There are just so many layers here and it just goes so deep.

In terms of making broad assumptions, I don't think everyone on this forum believes that if you are an Israeli that you should die. :hmm:

 

[Abz2000]

Originally Posted by Roasted Cashew

All I said was that they should target the IDF's and spare the civilians. I am not sure why saying that stirs up so much emotion here on this board. Everyone here thinks as long as you are an Israeli, you deserve to die.

oh really???
i thought you said they should be either victims or aggressors?
or maybe my eyes deceive me.

Palestinians need to understand that either you are the victim or the aggressor.
If you choose to be someone in between these two, then you are not helping your cause and you are making it difficult for the world to openly support your cause.
If you want to be seen as the victim, then stop the rockets and attacks. Give the world NOTHING to point back at you.

 

[IslamicRevival]

Cashew has been well and trully roasted, You should quit before you dig yourself into an even deeper hole.

 

[جوري]

By God I hate when we gang up on a person but I just can't make sense of what he writes..

 

[Roasted Cashew]

We've already discussed that the army is conscript of the people. Did that part not register? furthermore, they have absolutely no rights to that land, political or biblical, for even Abraham (PBUH) who was originally from Iraq with Yemeni ancestry i.e a middle easterner through and through which is more than any of those European Jews can claim still purchased a land in which to bury his wife Sarah from the people of Canaan. He didn't say oh people this land belongs to me. So where the heck do you get off calling them civilians? You're a hoot! They're all colonialists & should be fought or go back to the countries that housed them or live in Palestine under Islamic law like the Christians of the land do.
Do you read outside of the corporate news that has apparently so brainwashed you?

This is off topic. What here supports your claim that Israeli civilians are responsible for the deaths of all Muslim children in the world as you first stated. Again and again you bring in things that are irrelevant to the question posed at you.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

really? u seem to know where they're operated from and are even willing to go as far as vouching for them

It's general knowledge not some top secret. I am personally against drone attacks and have never supported them.

 

[جوري]

This is off topic. What here supports your claim that Israeli civilians are responsible for the deaths of all Muslim children in the world as you first stated. Again and again you bring in things that are irrelevant to the question posed at you.

Where did I say that ALL Israeli civilians are responsible for ALL Muslim children deaths in the world?
maybe a break really is due you until you get yourself together.. maybe come back with a different SN and avy so we don't enter your threads of per-conceived notions of what to expect.

best,

 

[Roasted Cashew]

oh really???
i thought you said they should be either victims or aggressors?
or maybe my eyes deceive me.

Maybe they do. You are not the aggressor if you fight for your right. You are an aggressor when in that fight you transgress(for example kill civilians) and Allah(SWT) does not like transgressors. I think I have made that clear in my earlier posts as where do I stand on this issue.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

Cashew has been well and trully roasted,

My name already has "roasted" in it. If you really wanted to poke fun you could have tried "this roasted cashew got burnt" ;D

 

[IslamicRevival]

My name already has "roasted" in it. If you really wanted to poke fun you could have tried "this roasted cashew got burnt" ;D

Probably the best post you've written so far, it makes sense too. Well done

 

[Roasted Cashew]

Where did I say that ALL Israeli civilians are responsible for ALL Muslim children deaths in the world?

Go and check post #72. And I quote below:

The question:

Yes, I know. Why are you mentioning this. How is this relevant to Palestinian-Israel conflict we are talking abt. So Israeli civilians are responsible for the death of all of Muslim children all over the world??

Your response:

Indeed they're.. the condition of Muslims including after the so-called Arab springs goes back to Amero/Israeli interests in the region.
Can you hold an independent thought that doesn't loan itself to some form of brain wash or premised from something someone else has written but taken to denote the opposite of what is factual?

I am off to sleep now. Maybe you need some rest too. And I say that with all due respect.